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[david zawadzki]

Hello folks, Just wanted to thank everyone on this group for their support and their generosity. Especially the usual suspects....Jeff, Mark, Norm, Ron... Ps- at what rpm does the battery start charging? I'm thinking of keeping mine in the bike over the winter. I will start the bike but not ride a whole bunch. Maybe a mile here and there to my music studio. How long do I need to ride and at what rpm for it to recharge? Thanks! -David Z mobile: 646.267.1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com -David Z mobile: 646.267.1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com

[Jeff Saline]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 08:09:05 -0500 "David Zawadzki fordavidz@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes:

> Hello folks, > > Ps- at what rpm does the battery start charging? I'm thinking of > keeping mine in the bike over the winter. I will start the bike but > not ride a whole bunch. Maybe a mile here and there to my music > studio. > > How long do I need to ride and at what rpm for it to recharge? > > Thanks! > > -David Z

<><><><><><> <><><><><><> David, I'll suggest it might take one minute of engine running for every second of starter motor cranking to replenish the battery. If the battery has been sitting for a bit without use it will also take a bit to address that issue as a battery will lose a bit of charge just sitting. Some have more loss than others. Just ride the bike like normal with engine rpms at 3,500 or more most of the time. My suggestion if you aren't going to ride the bike long enough to run at operating temperature for at least 20 minutes is don't start the bike at all. One mile will not be enough to charge the battery or heat the engine, even if you have a T-Bob installed. Having said that... for three summers I rode my KLR to where I was working only 2 3/4 miles away. At night I would ride it home. About one night every two weeks or so I would put a battery tender on to bring the battery to full charge. A few times I would take the long way to work or home just to get the engine good and hot. That was in the summer so I wasn't concerned with condensation inside the engine like I would be in cooler/cold temperatures. It will probably do better for the bike and battery if you put a trickle charger on the battery once a month for a day or two. And at the same time, if you aren't going to ride for a while drain the carb of fuel and then crank the engine with the fuel shut off to clear the jets and passages of fuel. Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . ____________________________________________________________ What's your flood risk? Find flood maps, interactive tools, FAQs, and agents in your area. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54772ce14d5b42ce17dd7st02vuc

[david zawadzki]

Green light in neutral.  No light in gear. Perfection.   -David Zmobile: 646.267.1109www.thelegendofzarko.com

On Nov 24, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Jeff Saline wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:12:05 -0500 David Zawadzki writes: Connected the blue/red to green and the baby started right up.  Back in business!!! Thank you. -David Z <><><><><><> <><><><><><>   David,   Do you now have a neutral light when the bike is in gear?   If you do change the wires so it is the blue/red connected to the black/yellow and leave the green disconnected.   Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . .   ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it.

[Norm Keller]

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[Stu]

Giving Thanks back to a group - kindred spirits and a wealth of information and support when facing challenges with Sheila (2002 KLR 650). And especially Thanks to our host - Fred - for helping get my brakes upgrade (moved up to the Arrowhead 320 mm diameter from EBC). It still is not logical to me why the same size pad and the same surface contact stops better on a bigger diameter rotor - but it does.... Hope everyone enjoyed their Thanksgiving. -Stu & Shellon- Dog Sheila - 2002 KLR650 7500 miles SS Brake lines Arrowhead EBC 320mm Front Rotor w/Green Galfer pads Frame bolts upgrade (drill through) Various Protection Covers/Plates (Shark, Rear Brake MC, etc) DooHickey ThermoBob HO Stator Mosfet RR Eastern Beaver distribution panel Steel FootPegs HT Skidplate HT PD Nerf Bars Rear OEM Pannier racks Unifilter 705's Lowering Links (Hey, I ain't Wilt the Stilt and most of the unpaved roads I ride don't use boulders for speed-bumps...) Rigid D2's and the 7" horizontal light bar Denali horn Corbin Seat CeeBee Windshield (from PO) Upgraded Rear Spring to Heavier Rate Upgrade Straight Rate Front Springs with 10 wt oil and approx OEM equivalent spacer (for now) WOW Strobing LED Taillight JW Archer Dash panel w/2 outlets and 4 switches heated glove liners for Winter riding LEDs for Original KLR dash on their way I am scoping what I need for the conversion to LED's for the Turn signals - the wacko backfeed issue w/LED's - but thinking about rewiring for having side marker lights and turn-signals in same housing Next - Aftermarket Exhaust (current is 12 +years old and likely not breathing well) Dynojet Stage 1 Then some more miles

[Jeff Saline]

On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:16:01 -0500 (EST) "Stu klr650zen@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes:

> And especially Thanks to our host - Fred - for helping get my brakes > upgrade (moved up to the Arrowhead 320 mm diameter from EBC). > > It still is not logical to me why the same size pad and the same > surface contact stops better on a bigger diameter rotor - but it > does....

<><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> Stu, Maybe think of the leverage involved with the brake pads and distance to the axle (pivot point). The further away from the axle the more leverage available for stopping. Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . . . . ____________________________________________________________ Odd Trick Fights Diabetes "Unique" Proven Method To Control Blood Sugar In 3 Weeks. Watch Video. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54792ea812e62ea773dcst02vuc