antigravity micro-start xp-1

[Todd Vosper]

A buddy of mine turned me on to these a while ago. My wife and daughter now both have them in their cars. He bought one for his neighbor and when he took it over to him, the guy laughed because he had a dead battery in one of his cars that he had been putting off replacing. They took the XP-1 out of the box - with only the charge from the factory - hooked it up and started the car no problem. I bring my wife's in every month or so and charge a laptop or something to make sure it's working and to recharge it. Only downside is that they do lose their charge, like any battery, so you can't "set and forget" - needs a minimal maintenance plan. "I have been watching this item for a while. I have seen many reviews and videos. The idea of a wallet sized battery power supply and able to jump start vehicles, I pulled the plug. I found it for $115 free shipping on eBay. Product has a light, 8 volt for laptops, 3 volts for cell phones, cameras and other USB type devices. Includes the jumped cables. "

[daveygwhiz]

Do shops machine/resurface scored rotors? I've been calling around locally and was told I need to buy a new one regardless of condition. This doesn't sound right since there's a stamp showing minimum thickness allowed on the rotor. Dave

[Eddie]

That min. allowable # is more for general wear. If you can find a shop that will resurface your stock rotor, it may be close to the min. thickness when finished and more prone to warping. Check with Fred and Co. to see what your replacement options are. Brakes are like parachutes, a fixed one may be okay, but do you really want to chance it? -eddie

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] foolstools@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, November 17, 2014 11:48 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] rotors  

Do shops machine/resurface scored rotors? I've been calling around locally and was told I need to buy a new one regardless of condition. This doesn't sound right since there's a stamp showing minimum thickness allowed on the rotor. Dave

[Jeff Saline]

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[mark ward]

I have never found a place the mounting tools to do an MC rotor.  On Monday, November 17, 2014 12:21 PM, "Jeff Saline salinej1@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  On 17 Nov 2014 08:48:50 -0800 "foolstools@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes:   Do shops machine/resurface scored rotors?   I've been calling around locally and was told I need to buy a new one regardless of condition.   This doesn't sound right since there's a stamp showing minimum thickness allowed on the rotor.   Dave   <><><><><><> <><><><><><>   Dave,   Unless it is for very small irregularities in the surface most motorcycle rotors are too thin for effective resurfacing.   If you measure the rotor thickness in most cases you will not have the correct device to measure to the bottom of the scoring.  So all that can be measured are the "peaks" of the rotor surface.  You can get an accurate measurement of the thickness but will be guessing how much material will be removed to clean the damaged area.  By the time the work will be completed you may end up with a bill for work that only proves the rotor is beyond repair limits.   My advice if you would like it is to either put new pads on and let them seat to the existing finish or replace the rotor and pads and do a proper break-in of the parts.   Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . .   ____________________________________________________________ [b]What's your flood risk?[/b] Find flood maps, interactive tools, FAQs, and agents in your area. floodsmart.gov

[Eddie]

+1 on Jeff's advice to just install new pads. It wouldn't hurt to scuff the heck out of the rotor with some 80 grit emory cloth before hand to take off any glaze and give the new pads something to break in against (like cross hatch honing a cylinder for new rings). eddie

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] salinej1@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] foolstools@... [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, November 17, 2014 12:19 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] rotors  

On 17 Nov 2014 08:48:50 -0800 "foolstools@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes:   Do shops machine/resurface scored rotors?   I've been calling around locally and was told I need to buy a new one regardless of condition.   This doesn't sound right since there's a stamp showing minimum thickness allowed on the rotor.   Dave   <><><><><><> <><><><><><>   Dave,   Unless it is for very small irregularities in the surface most motorcycle rotors are too thin for effective resurfacing.   If you measure the rotor thickness in most cases you will not have the correct device to measure to the bottom of the scoring.  So all that can be measured are the "peaks" of the rotor surface.  You can get an accurate measurement of the thickness but will be guessing how much material will be removed to clean the damaged area.  By the time the work will be completed you may end up with a bill for work that only proves the rotor is beyond repair limits.   My advice if you would like it is to either put new pads on and let them seat to the existing finish or replace the rotor and pads and do a proper break-in of the parts.   Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . .

[Martin Earl]

PM sent--check your inbox/spam for off line help. m.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:48 AM, foolstools@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Do shops machine/resurface scored rotors? I've been calling around locally and was told I need to buy a new one regardless of condition. This doesn't sound right since there's a stamp showing minimum thickness allowed on the rotor. Dave

[GMac]

I ve found that the setup needed is more like automotive flywheel resurfacing, at least from the machine shop side. I ve had rotors done on a KZ900 and that s the type machine they used to do them. Greg M. From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:10 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; foolstools@... Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] rotors That min. allowable # is more for general wear. If you can find a shop that will resurface your stock rotor, it may be close to the min. thickness when finished and more prone to warping. Check with Fred and Co. to see what your replacement options are. Brakes are like parachutes, a fixed one may be okay, but do you really want to chance it? -eddie

----- Original Message ----- From: foolstools@... [DSN_KLR650] To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:48 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] rotors Do shops machine/resurface scored rotors? I've been calling around locally and was told I need to buy a new one regardless of condition. This doesn't sound right since there's a stamp showing minimum thickness allowed on the rotor. Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[zoot]

Local machinist I talked to here says he used to but won't any more due to difficulty with consistency and warping.  Too dangerous to have the warp grab while braking.  Did lay mine flat and scuff them with emory cloth.  Big improvement.

t.

 

 

[daveygwhiz]

Thanks all for the confirmation! Dave