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[Guest]

I can back up what Jud says! For rallies and general summer play I always run Pirelli BT21 Rally Cross tires. Excellent sand, dirt, mud and high speed dirt road tire and surprisingly good on the highway, at least until they get about 2/3 gone. Then they shake more on the highway. They don't last as long as the 270s but they aren't supposed to. After my last rally of the season I burn off the last of the BT21s that are mounted then switch to the Kenda d270s. They last a long time, are really inexpensive and work more than well enough for commuting and bombing around in the forest roads. There are several better tires than the 270 but you pay loads more for them. For general bombing around or commuting you are paying loads more for performance you generally don't need. Generealy!, for harder core dirt, or real twisty road racing play you need to spend the extra money. But all this is about how Jud and I ride and has nothing to do with you! For this reason you should delete emails from anybody that tells you what the best tire is. Stop listening to us since we are too easily lured into tire threads, or even oil threads. Ignore us, seriously, why are you still here? Focus on what tires do what well, and maybe well enough. Then sit down and figure out how you will REALLY use the bike. It is nice to think you need tires for the Dakar this coming summer but if you spend 99% of your time commuting then use commuting tires and buy race tires when you get to Argentina. ONLY WHEN YOU HAVE DECIDED WHAT YOU WILL REALLY DO WITH THEM can you pick the right tire!!!!!!! Sincerely, Chris - who should have stopped talking long ago

>Re: Tires >Posted by: "Jud" judjonzz@... judjonzz >Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:05 pm (PDT) > >On my first Moto Mutz trip to Mexico, I started out with a K270 that looked >about half or 2/3 gone. Marty Mataya looked at it and laughed. He thought >I was going to have to try to replace it somewhere down in the canyons. Other >guys started the trip on new Karoos, MT21s, TKC80s. We probably only rode >2500 miles in 2 weeks. I watched all these other tires run their knobs >completely off. At the end of the trip, my Kenda looked pretty much the same >as it did at the start. I would have liked to say I had the last laugh, but >I couldn't really be laughing at Marty, who did the whole ride on a castoff >mx front and a grooved out street tire on the rear.

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[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "mechanizeinc" wrote: . > > This is why the D606 rocks. It is 112mph or so speed rated and does great on wet grass, > Mech Hmmm. I wasn't aware that anything except chains and cleats 'does great' on wet grass. smile. In my experience, ice, wet grass, and dead dry grass in a two track all have about the same coefficient of friction. = KLR magnet to horizontal. shrug. revmaaatin. who puzzles such things as, "didn't look slick"

[revmaaatin]

> On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:48 PM, "dat brooklyn bum" wrote:

SNIPed

> > Bottom line, where do you do your most aggressive riding, not where do you do your most riding. > > > > da Vermonster (yes I still blame the TKC 80 for my ankle injury in LA-B-2-V 2007) > >

NOT being an English major and having the disconcerting disability of learning Englinsh in Arkansas, cough, I believe Mr. Tumu meant, "the TKC 80 contributed to my ankle injury" as the TKC did not twist his arm or his throttle. unless, he has re-named 'mr. Right Hand' TKC 80. Reguardless if you learned English in Vermont, NY or Arkansas, Tuma's advice is 100% correct. Tire-up for your worst conditions. = ATGATT even for your bike. revmaaatin. who observes/smiles/laughs from a safe distance.

[dat brooklyn bum]

No, I still lay the blame fully on the tire. My wrist twisted just like it always had with a 606 and I got different results . . . Ok, maybe I shoulda done a bit more testing before assuming things would be the same, but I didn't have that luxury. I was trying to catch up to CA Stu who didn't see that I had stopped to get an action photo of him coming through a section. Lesson learned, when things are different on the bike or on the ground from what you are used to, ride at about 75% until you are sure of what's happening in the traction department. da Vermonster (who also was a little PUI last night)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > > On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:48 PM, "dat brooklyn bum" wrote: > SNIPed > > > > Bottom line, where do you do your most aggressive riding, not where do you do your most riding. > > > > > > da Vermonster (yes I still blame the TKC 80 for my ankle injury in LA-B-2-V 2007) > > > > > NOT being an English major > and > having the disconcerting disability of learning Englinsh in Arkansas, cough, > I believe Mr. Tumu meant, "the TKC 80 contributed to my ankle injury" as the TKC did not twist his arm or his throttle. > unless, he has re-named 'mr. Right Hand' TKC 80. > > Reguardless if you learned English in Vermont, NY or Arkansas, Tuma's advice is 100% correct. > Tire-up for your worst conditions. > = ATGATT even for your bike. > > revmaaatin. who observes/smiles/laughs from a safe distance. >

[ron criswell]

I'm tired. Heh! Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Mar 28, 2012, at 3:31 PM, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:48 PM, "dat brooklyn bum" wrote: > SNIPed > > > > Bottom line, where do you do your most aggressive riding, not where do you do your most riding. > > > > > > da Vermonster (yes I still blame the TKC 80 for my ankle injury in LA-B-2-V 2007) > > > > > NOT being an English major > and > having the disconcerting disability of learning Englinsh in Arkansas, cough, > I believe Mr. Tumu meant, "the TKC 80 contributed to my ankle injury" as the TKC did not twist his arm or his throttle. > unless, he has re-named 'mr. Right Hand' TKC 80. > > Reguardless if you learned English in Vermont, NY or Arkansas, Tuma's advice is 100% correct. > Tire-up for your worst conditions. > = ATGATT even for your bike. > > revmaaatin. who observes/smiles/laughs from a safe distance. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:

> > > > > On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:48 PM, "dat brooklyn bum" wrote: > SNIPed > > > > Bottom line, where do you do your most aggressive riding, not where do you do your most riding. > > > > > > da Vermonster (yes I still blame the TKC 80 for my ankle injury in LA-B-2-V 2007) > > > > > NOT being an English major > and > having the disconcerting disability of learning Englinsh in Arkansas, cough, > I believe Mr. Tumu meant, "the TKC 80 contributed to my ankle injury" as the TKC did not twist his arm or his throttle. > unless, he has re-named 'mr. Right Hand' TKC 80. > > Reguardless if you learned English in Vermont, NY or Arkansas, Tuma's advice is 100% correct. > Tire-up for your worst conditions. > = ATGATT even for your bike. > > revmaaatin. who observes/smiles/laughs from a safe distance. >

Or, you could take the advice of the KTM factory mechanics we ran into down in Missouri a few years ago, when we showed up to ride and found we were inadvertently pre-riding a national enduro course. Their advice was, set the bike up for the rocks. Everything else will take care of itself. P.S. the riding got real interesting and quite a bit tougher when we started following the route arrows.

[The Naked KLR650 Rider]

Dunlop 606's received today .awaiting installation. the knobs ARE big -- promising BIG "results". I was getting the old original K750's all smoothed out. 1/8 " tread left. plenty of miles left in them at 6800. only some cracking around the knobs worried me. I dont need to get every last mile out of a tire. for $200 i should get new tires every year. decided to get em on sale at rockymountainatv dot com '06KLRRed

----- Original Message ----- From: "dat brooklyn bum" > No, I still lay the blame fully on the tire. My wrist twisted just like it > always had with a 606 and I got different results . . .

[Thomas Komjathy]

I'm considering mounting a set of Conti, TCKs on the KLR as a better tread for off road use. What kind of mileage have you guys been getting from these tires. Currently I'm running Metzeler Tourance. Thomas J. Komjathy DSK L.L.C. dskllc@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[John Biccum]

I get about 7K to a front TKC, about 3.5K out of a rear. I run 32F and 35R on the street, as low as 12 PSI off road. These tires seem to be the compromise tire (on and off road) that demands the least compromise. They work almost as well off road as more aggressive tires (e.g D606) yet work almost as well on the road as more street-biased tires such as the Tourance. Most of the last few TKC I have seen have been made in Brazil rather than Germany. But I notice no difference in performance between the Brazilian and German tires. Note that the center tread on the rear seems to wear at an alarmingly rapid rate when the tire is first put in service. If you assess the rear tire wear after a few hundred miles and extrapolate that wear to make an estimate the tire's service life you will end up with an estimate of only 1500 or so miles of tire life. But after a few hundred miles this wear slows down and you should have no trouble getting 3500 out of a rear. I have also run a TKC front with a D606 rear with great results. From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Komjathy Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:39 AM To: DSN KLR650 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Tires I'm considering mounting a set of Conti, TCKs on the KLR as a better tread for off road use. What kind of mileage have you guys been getting from these tires. Currently I'm running Metzeler Tourance. Thomas J. Komjathy DSK L.L.C. dskllc@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

Note: When John B., says "OFF ROAD" HE MEENS, OFF!!! ROAD. LOL (With GREAT EXCITMENT & Memories. YEE HA) So The average trail & dirt road riders (like me) will gett longer wear. I call 6-7ft drop a cliff, While John calls it, "just riding "OFF A "STEP".

--- On Fri, 4/20/12, John Biccum wrote: From: John Biccum Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Tires To: "'Thomas Komjathy'" , "'DSN KLR650'" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 2:38 PM I get about 7K to a front TKC, about 3.5K out of a rear. I run 32F and 35R on the street, as low as 12 PSI off road. These tires seem to be the compromise tire (on and off road) that demands the least compromise. They work almost as well off road as more aggressive tires (e.g D606) yet work almost as well on the road as more street-biased tires such as the Tourance. Most of the last few TKC I have seen have been made in Brazil rather than Germany. But I notice no difference in performance between the Brazilian and German tires. Note that the center tread on the rear seems to wear at an alarmingly rapid rate when the tire is first put in service. If you assess the rear tire wear after a few hundred miles and extrapolate that wear to make an estimate the tire's service life you will end up with an estimate of only 1500 or so miles of tire life. But after a few hundred miles this wear slows down and you should have no trouble getting 3500 out of a rear. I have also run a TKC front with a D606 rear with great results. From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Komjathy Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:39 AM To: DSN KLR650 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Tires I'm considering mounting a set of Conti, TCKs on the KLR as a better tread for off road use. What kind of mileage have you guys been getting from these tires. Currently I'm running Metzeler Tourance. Thomas J. Komjathy DSK L.L.C. dskllc@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]