a modification i hadn't considered

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mark ward
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Post by mark ward » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:52 am

WARNING!!! (Seriously, must see QUIZ choice #2. A. & C. ) U.P.S. WEB PAGE.
U.P.S. HAS !!!! VERY PERSONAL INFO, ONLY THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE.
I was on the UPS Web sight, "REGISTERING", to track a package I just ordered yest.
TO TEST MY ID, I HAD 2 CHOICES
#1. THREW FACEBOOK, AND COLLECT MY EMAIL (OK) AND ALL MY FRIENDS LIST.
OR CHOICE 2
#2 TAKE A QUIZ.
UPS ASKED 3 PERSONAL! MULTIPLE QUESTIONS,
A. WHAT STREET IN THE PAST, HAVE I HAD A PACKAGE DELIVERED TO? (they should not know my old address, just by name, to many others with same name)
B. WHAT VEHICLE IS REGISTERED TO THIS ADDRESS? ( THAT IS STATE OF MICHIGAN, INFO, WHO ELSE SHOULD HAVE MY TRUCK LISTED?
C. MONTH WAS (MY DAUGHTER'S NAME.) WAS BORN?
BESIDES ME, AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT,..... WHO KNOWS WHAT CARS, TRUCKS ETC ARE REGISTERED, TO THIS ADDRESS?
NO-ONE, OR SO I THOUGHT. UPS AND ??????? DOES

John Biccum
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u.p.s has personal info (nklr)

Post by John Biccum » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:07 am

State DMV's routinely sell such citizen data to data aggregators, companies such as Lexis-Nexus and Experian. These companies in turn sell the data to other companies (e.g. UPS) and ironically also to other state DMVs. If you wish to have your personal data withheld from your state's DMV data sold to the data aggregators you can probably do so. Most states have statues or have made administrative rules that allow citizens to opt out. If you chose to opt out you may have trouble "verifying your identity" when opening new credit accounts, renting a home etc. since lenders and landlords frequently use data aggregators to "verify the identity" of their prospective creditors or tenants. Using the knowledge of some data to authenticate someone is an example of relying on something known as a "shared secret". The rationale behind this practice is that since purportedly only the subject would know the answers to these questions, anyone knowing the correct answers must therefore be the subject. The username/password is another form of the shared secret, an egregiously broken form that is more than 50 years old. Identity experts have been known to refer to the continuing use of the shared secrets for identity verification as a "full employment program for database hackers". Perhaps the foremost authority on the efficacy of the shared secret was Eduard (sometimes erroneously also spelled Edward) Teach. Teach, better known by his nom de guerre Blackbeard the Pirate, claimed that "Any two people can keep a secret, provided that one of them is dead". Teach would select a crewmember to row him ashore then order the crewmember to dig a hole and place chest full of plunder into the hole. Teach would then shoot the crewmember, toss his corpse into the hole and fill in the hole himself. Even the term "Shared Secret" is an oxymoron, and truly shared secrets shouldn't be used for authentication. But the use of shared secrets soldiers on unabated, largely due to the lack of economically viable alternatives at internet scale. From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:53 AM To: List KLR Subject: [DSN_KLR650] U.P.S HAS PERSONAL INFO (NKLR) WARNING!!! (Seriously, must see QUIZ choice #2. A. & C. ) U.P.S. WEB PAGE. U.P.S. HAS !!!! VERY PERSONAL INFO, ONLY THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE. I was on the UPS Web sight, "REGISTERING", to track a package I just ordered yest. TO TEST MY ID, I HAD 2 CHOICES #1. THREW FACEBOOK, AND COLLECT MY EMAIL (OK) AND ALL MY FRIENDS LIST. OR CHOICE 2 #2 TAKE A QUIZ. UPS ASKED 3 PERSONAL! MULTIPLE QUESTIONS, A. WHAT STREET IN THE PAST, HAVE I HAD A PACKAGE DELIVERED TO? (they should not know my old address, just by name, to many others with same name) B. WHAT VEHICLE IS REGISTERED TO THIS ADDRESS? ( THAT IS STATE OF MICHIGAN, INFO, WHO ELSE SHOULD HAVE MY TRUCK LISTED? C. MONTH WAS (MY DAUGHTER'S NAME.) WAS BORN? BESIDES ME, AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT,..... WHO KNOWS WHAT CARS, TRUCKS ETC ARE REGISTERED, TO THIS ADDRESS? NO-ONE, OR SO I THOUGHT. UPS AND ??????? DOES ---------- ---------- ---------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Martin Earl
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a modification i hadn't considered

Post by Martin Earl » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:39 pm

Unfortunately, I am unable to do this with Ortlieb bags (snugly) installed,however,my previous luggage suspended with straps (slightly differently, resulting in a loose fit over the muffler.There was a space between the strap and the muffler that allowed you to slip a can of (sic) DelMonte beef stew against the muffler, retained by the strap bearing down on the can, if placed ~2 hours prior to quitting, you had hot chow at the end of the day.Same for ravioli, spaghetti, etc. While riding in a group, I had my 'can' of supper eaten before the others could unpack their stove and heat their food. Others have used smaller portions and set the 'food-stuff' in direct contact with the engine case, just below the carb.Never worked for me...but that is what they reported.
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:50 PM, mark ward nomad59@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: There's another brand called "Muffpot" only $40.) On Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:48 PM, mark ward wrote: When I Googled "hot Pot Food warmer", Then Images, they had picts of a KLR with one mounted just about the Oil fill cap. On Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:59 PM, "Mike Huber minoman59@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: My idea was a tube with a screw top, attached to the header pipe that would warm up an aluminum foil wrapped burrito while I was riding..... We used to throw them on the intake manifold of my Jeep when we were 4 wheeling and have a hot lunch on the trail. Mike Huber To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; normkel32@... From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:31:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A modification I hadn't considered YA I have debated installing something to hold a can of soup, stew etc, cornbeef hash etc. On Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:12 PM, "'Norm Keller' normkel32@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Popular with some of the snowmobile owners around here. My friend has several in stock at his shop: http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/enthusiasts/catalog_item_detail.asp?catalog=7953&levelcode=53805&product=1232375&cattype=&ProductCategoryCode=

j copel
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Post by j copel » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:30 am

I have tracked hundreds od packages on UPS and never had to regester. If you are using more than tracking you could have to regester with them.
I have regestered with Fedex in the past because of the bad service in this area. I needed to change the times of delevery or place of delevery. Things that get dumped at doorsteps get stolen.

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