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Jeff Saline
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death of a battery............?

Post by Jeff Saline » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:51 pm

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[DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes:   I tend to leave my KLR connected to a trickle charger.  A few days ago my battery was dead.  FYI, I had disconnected the charger for a few days prior to it dying. I pulled the battery today and it was bone dry.  I have to admit that I had not checked the battery juice level in quite a while.  I use a slosh battery from Wal Mart.  So, my question; "In your best guess, did the charger cook the battery over time, or is more likely that it dried over time due (muttering - due to my negligence)." In my defense, the battery was about two + years old.  So it was about time anyway.   Signed Anonymous   I decline to sign my name as some of you will attack me for my negligence. <><><><><><> <><><><><><>   Anonymous,   Probably a combination of charging all the time and not checking the fluid level.  RevMaaatin and I have both used Walmart batteries.  Usually they last 3 and sometimes 4 years in a KLR.   I've had very good luck taking care of batteries by only putting them on a trickle charger when they are below 12.4 volts.  I monitor the voltage as they charge and once they stabilize at 13.20 volts or very close to that I remove the trickle charger.  I then monitor the battery voltage and don't put the trickle charger on again until the voltage is below 12.4 volts.   I'm doing that right now with a battery that came in a riding lawn mower I just bought.  As of a few minutes ago the voltage was at 12.75 volts.  I'm guessing in the morning it will be stabilized and I'll then be able to reinstall and use the mower.   I also have a AGM battery that I bought in fall of 1999.  That puts it at 15 years and it still is a good battery.  Last winter it was put on the charger twice if I recall correctly.  I keep that battery around just to see how long it will last.  I know this is the exception and not the rule for battery life.  Until today it has been used for the last 9 years in a riding lawn mower.  It never saw a charger in mowing season.   My truck hardly ever gets used and the battery for it is 9 years old.  Doesn't hold a charge as long as the 15 year battery but it is still working.  Only time it sees a charger is when the voltage gets low.   So maybe consider monitoring battery voltage and only charging as needed.  And also monitor fluid level and top with distilled water as needed.   Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . .   ____________________________________________________________ [b]Progressive Insurance[/b] Find a policy to fit your budget with the Name Your Price tool Progressive.com
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nakedwaterskier
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doo hickey & the big question?

Post by nakedwaterskier » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:52 pm

One US Marine doohickey I opened up looked OK but upgraded anyways.  It seemed to be standard factory doohickey setup.The US Marine EngineI have in my bike now with about 3 or 4k miles on it; I haven't opened up the side case.  I am probably going to wait till probably till 10k miles and do valve adj and doohickey same time.  Jeffrey
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Ernie Swihart
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death of a battery............?

Post by Ernie Swihart » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:32 pm

Hey Jeff,

Don t you use a smart charger? I keep all my seasonal batteries on smart charger and they last years. I use the same smart charger for any size battery. I even use a smart charger on 2 6v golf cart batteries in series that I use on my trailer and they seem to last years doing this. I m a believer. Trickle chargers are no good for the very reason that they will boil the battery dry if you aren t very careful and regular which I know you are but I can t say as much about me.

Ernie

06 klr 650

Minnetonka MN

 

[b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:50 PM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; eddiebmauri@... [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Death of a Battery............?

 

 

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 02:07:40 +0000 "eddiebmauri@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes:

 

I tend to leave my KLR connected to a trickle charger.  A few days ago my battery was dead.  FYI, I had disconnected the charger for a few days prior to it dying. I pulled the battery today and it was bone dry.  I have to admit that I had not checked the battery juice level in quite a while.  I use a slosh battery from Wal Mart. 

So, my question; "In your best guess, did the charger cook the battery over time, or is more likely that it dried over time due (muttering - due to my negligence)."

In my defense, the battery was about two + years old.  So it was about time anyway.

  Signed Anonymous

 

I decline to sign my name as some of you will attack me for my negligence. <><><><><><>

<><><><><><>  

 

Anonymous,

 

Probably a combination of charging all the time and not checking the fluid level.  RevMaaatin and I have both used Walmart batteries.  Usually they last 3 and sometimes 4 years in a KLR.

 

I've had very good luck taking care of batteries by only putting them on a trickle charger when they are below 12.4 volts.  I monitor the voltage as they charge and once they stabilize at 13.20 volts or very close to that I remove the trickle charger.  I then monitor the battery voltage and don't put the trickle charger on again until the voltage is below 12.4 volts.

 

I'm doing that right now with a battery that came in a riding lawn mower I just bought.  As of a few minutes ago the voltage was at 12.75 volts.  I'm guessing in the morning it will be stabilized and I'll then be able to reinstall and use the mower.

 

I also have a AGM battery that I bought in fall of 1999.  That puts it at 15 years and it still is a good battery.  Last winter it was put on the charger twice if I recall correctly.  I keep that battery around just to see how long it will last.  I know this is the exception and not the rule for battery life.  Until today it has been used for the last 9 years in a riding lawn mower.  It never saw a charger in mowing season.

 

My truck hardly ever gets used and the battery for it is 9 years old.  Doesn't hold a charge as long as the 15 year battery but it is still working.  Only time it sees a charger is when the voltage gets low.

 

So maybe consider monitoring battery voltage and only charging as needed.  And also monitor fluid level and top with distilled water as needed.

 

Best,

Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650

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death of a battery............?

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I keep all my seasonal batteries on smart charger and they last years. I use the same smart charger for any size battery. I even use a smart charger on 2 6v golf cart batteries in series that I use on my trailer and they seem to last years doing this. I m a believer. Trickle chargers are no good for the very reason that they will boil the battery dry if you aren t very careful and regular which I know you are but I can t say as much about me.   Ernie 06 klr 650 Minnetonka MN <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><>   Ernie,   When I said trickle charger I was referring to an old wall wart style Battery Tender.  It only does 1 amp or less so for me that is a trickle charger.  I don't trust the float feature as I've heard of way too many cooked dry batteries after extended use and ignoring the fluid levels.  Leaving a battery on a float charger for a week is probably fine, leaving it on for months on end probably isn't.   But whatever works for folks is what they should do.   Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . .     ____________________________________________________________ [b]Progressive Insurance[/b] Find a great rate even if it s not with us. Get a free quote! Progressive.com
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death of a battery............?

Post by mark ward » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:24 pm

Trickle or Float THINGS BREAK, I lost a $180. battery do to plugging in for the winter and IGNORING. (Note: IGNORE and IGNORAMUS come from the SAME word) As Jeff says TOO MANY, I do not trust Electronics & 25+ years as a service tech. and simple life says, Do not put your trust in anything but your self. (Yourself & Several of these great guys here. LOL)     On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:42 PM, "Jeff Saline salinej1@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:32:06 -0500 "Ernie Swihart" writes: Hey Jeff,   Don t you use a smart charger? I keep all my seasonal batteries on smart charger and they last years. I use the same smart charger for any size battery. I even use a smart charger on 2 6v golf cart batteries in series that I use on my trailer and they seem to last years doing this. I m a believer. Trickle chargers are no good for the very reason that they will boil the battery dry if you aren t very careful and regular which I know you are but I can t say as much about me.   Ernie 06 klr 650 Minnetonka MN <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><>   Ernie,   When I said trickle charger I was referring to an old wall wart style Battery Tender.  It only does 1 amp or less so for me that is a trickle charger.  I don't trust the float feature as I've heard of way too many cooked dry batteries after extended use and ignoring the fluid levels.  Leaving a battery on a float charger for a week is probably fine, leaving it on for months on end probably isn't.   But whatever works for folks is what they should do.   Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . .     ____________________________________________________________ [b]Progressive Insurance[/b] Find a great rate even if it s not with us. Get a free quote! 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