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RobertWichert · Post by **RobertWichert** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:06 am

Buying something new for the bike always makes it happy. It will run great for a while. It might get a little jealous if you ride another bike or drive the truck too much. Then you might have to buy some spare lights or some new farkle. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 4/1/2014 7:58 AM, david zawadzki wrote:

New battery. No more problems

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM, mark ward wrote: It ALWAYS, comes down to 1 main answer, you NEED a (Volt/Amp/continuity) Meter. While I do have a $6. Harbor freight I also have 5 others up to $340. (needed for my job. A $25.-$30. one would be nice for what you would do & more. [b]From:[/b] david zawadzki [b]To:[/b] DeGroot Patrick [b]Cc:[/b] KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, January 20, 2014 10:47 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question This is great!. Thank you all. I will get back to you in a few days. Ps- I only added a 12v charger to the bike. No extras (yet) -David On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:25 PM, DeGroot Patrick wrote: -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 1/18/14, david zawadzki wrote: Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question To: "KLR Group" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 9:54 PM David, there are a few things you can check /do without too much trouble , first off with the extra cold did you change to a "winter oil"? something like a 5w20 , the oils that protect so great in the heat turn to glue in the cold requiring more power when batteries show their weaknes, I suggest checking if your battery connections are tight , i almost was stranded by a lose ground cable , the lights would light but as soon as i pressed the starter it fell flat , cleaned and tightened the battery terminals and all was fixed . I like to clean the electrical connections and use dielectric grease to keep water and corrosion away . I have since put the headlight on relays with the addition of an on/off switch to give even more power to the starter etc but that is more complicated . you might pick up a trickle charger with a quick disconnect or an onboard model , I have one that plugs into the cig lighter socket i added , and on other bikes / riding lawnmower the quick disconnect , that way you install and dont need to pull the battery , the battery in my KLR is from a 2004 Nomad 1500 , been on a trickle charger from day one in 2004 and still going strong (yes ten years old) upgraded the Nomads battery a year or so back and reused as it was still good . that said, the KLR can handle a bigger battery than specified just measure and make sure the terminals line up . Gents, I have a 2007 KLR650. I charged up my battery and the bike starts for a few days and then it sounds like the battery is dying/dead. Some of you recommended to get a V meter and check whats draining the battery. I have not done that yet because it's been really cold in NY and i have no garage (the great city life...). What i did do was take the battery out to recharge at home (trickle charger). To my surprise the battery was fully charged in 30 minutes which means that the battery is good. Could it be a starter? Where should i look? Any ideas? ps- i've done some work on the bike but electrical stuff is all new to me so please respond as if you were talking to your 12 year old son

-- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 http://www.thelegendofzarko.com/ -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com

mark ward · Post by **mark ward** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:31 am

Everyone brags about Gell, I installed a Bike master "TruGell" $100. last spring, no good now, 12.1volts only 80percent charging. SO Is it worth $150. for an Odessey compared to $50. for a wet cell?

[b]From:[/b] RobertWichert [b]To:[/b] david zawadzki ; mark ward [b]Cc:[/b] DeGroot Patrick ; KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:06 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question Buying something new for the bike always makes it happy. It will run great for a while. It might get a little jealous if you ride another bike or drive the truck too much. Then you might have to buy some spare lights or some new farkle. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 =============================================== On 4/1/2014 7:58 AM, david zawadzki wrote: New battery. No more problems On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM, mark ward wrote: It ALWAYS, comes down to 1 main answer, you NEED a (Volt/Amp/continuity) Meter. While I do have a $6. Harbor freight I also have 5 others up to $340. (needed for my job. A $25.-$30. one would be nice for what you would do & more. [b]From:[/b] david zawadzki [b]To:[/b] DeGroot Patrick [b]Cc:[/b] KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, January 20, 2014 10:47 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question This is great!. Thank you all. I will get back to you in a few days. Ps- I only added a 12v charger to the bike. No extras (yet) -David On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:25 PM, DeGroot Patrick wrote: -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 1/18/14, david zawadzki wrote: Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question To: "KLR Group" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 9:54 PM David, there are a few things you can check /do without too much trouble , first off with the extra cold did you change to a "winter oil"? something like a 5w20 , the oils that protect so great in the heat turn to glue in the cold requiring more power when batteries show their weaknes, I suggest checking if your battery connections are tight , i almost was stranded by a lose ground cable , the lights would light but as soon as i pressed the starter it fell flat , cleaned and tightened the battery terminals and all was fixed . I like to clean the electrical connections and use dielectric grease to keep water and corrosion away . I have since put the headlight on relays with the addition of an on/off switch to give even more power to the starter etc but that is more complicated . you might pick up a trickle charger with a quick disconnect or an onboard model , I have one that plugs into the cig lighter socket i added , and on other bikes / riding lawnmower the quick disconnect , that way you install and dont need to pull the battery , the battery in my KLR is from a 2004 Nomad 1500 , been on a trickle charger from day one in 2004 and still going strong (yes ten years old) upgraded the Nomads battery a year or so back and reused as it was still good . that said, the KLR can handle a bigger battery than specified just measure and make sure the terminals line up . Gents, I have a 2007 KLR650. I charged up my battery and the bike starts for a few days and then it sounds like the battery is dying/dead. Some of you recommended to get a V meter and check whats draining the battery. I have not done that yet because it's been really cold in NY and i have no garage (the great city life...). What i did do was take the battery out to recharge at home (trickle charger). To my surprise the battery was fully charged in 30 minutes which means that the battery is good. Could it be a starter? Where should i look? Any ideas? ps- i've done some work on the bike but electrical stuff is all new to me so please respond as if you were talking to your 12 year old son -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 http://www.thelegendofzarko.com/

-- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com

RobertWichert · Post by **RobertWichert** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:41 am

More expensive parts make the bike happier and invigorate the economy. I'm going Lithium Ion next time. It's WAY more expensive! : ) Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 4/1/2014 8:31 AM, mark ward wrote:

Everyone brags about Gell, I installed a Bike master "TruGell" $100. last spring, no good now, 12.1volts only 80percent charging. SO Is it worth $150. for an Odessey compared to $50. for a wet cell? [b]From:[/b] RobertWichert robert@... [b]To:[/b] david zawadzki fordavidz@...; mark ward nomad59@... [b]Cc:[/b] DeGroot Patrick degroot93@...; KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:06 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question Buying something new for the bike always makes it happy. It will run great for a while. It might get a little jealous if you ride another bike or drive the truck too much. Then you might have to buy some spare lights or some new farkle. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 =============================================== On 4/1/2014 7:58 AM, david zawadzki wrote: New battery. No more problems

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM, mark ward wrote: It ALWAYS, comes down to 1 main answer, you NEED a (Volt/Amp/continuity) Meter. While I do have a $6. Harbor freight I also have 5 others up to $340. (needed for my job. A $25.-$30. one would be nice for what you would do & more. [b]From:[/b] david zawadzki [b]To:[/b] DeGroot Patrick [b]Cc:[/b] KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, January 20, 2014 10:47 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question This is great!. Thank you all. I will get back to you in a few days. Ps- I only added a 12v charger to the bike. No extras (yet) -David On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:25 PM, DeGroot Patrick wrote: -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 1/18/14, david zawadzki wrote: Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question To: "KLR Group" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 9:54 PM David, there are a few things you can check /do without too much trouble , first off with the extra cold did you change to a "winter oil"? something like a 5w20 , the oils that protect so great in the heat turn to glue in the cold requiring more power when batteries show their weaknes, I suggest checking if your battery connections are tight , i almost was stranded by a lose ground cable , the lights would light but as soon as i pressed the starter it fell flat , cleaned and tightened the battery terminals and all was fixed . I like to clean the electrical connections and use dielectric grease to keep water and corrosion away . I have since put the headlight on relays with the addition of an on/off switch to give even more power to the starter etc but that is more complicated . you might pick up a trickle charger with a quick disconnect or an onboard model , I have one that plugs into the cig lighter socket i added , and on other bikes / riding lawnmower the quick disconnect , that way you install and dont need to pull the battery , the battery in my KLR is from a 2004 Nomad 1500 , been on a trickle charger from day one in 2004 and still going strong (yes ten years old) upgraded the Nomads battery a year or so back and reused as it was still good . that said, the KLR can handle a bigger battery than specified just measure and make sure the terminals line up . Gents, I have a 2007 KLR650. I charged up my battery and the bike starts for a few days and then it sounds like the battery is dying/dead. Some of you recommended to get a V meter and check whats draining the battery. I have not done that yet because it's been really cold in NY and i have no garage (the great city life...). What i did do was take the battery out to recharge at home (trickle charger). To my surprise the battery was fully charged in 30 minutes which means that the battery is good. Could it be a starter? Where should i look? Any ideas? ps- i've done some work on the bike but electrical stuff is all new to me so please respond as if you were talking to your 12 year old son

-- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 http://www.thelegendofzarko.com/ -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 www.thelegendofzarko.com

Eddie · Post by **Eddie** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:52 am

I bought a conventional, maint.-free Yuasa battery right after I purchased my 09' new and it was still starting the bike just fine when I sold it

three years and 18k miles later. It never spent more than 10 minutes on a battery Tender Jr. before the light went green.

That was through three Georgia summers' worth of heat and a lot of in town riding. I gave the OEM battery to a friend for his dilapidated Ninja 500, where it promptly failed within a year from lack of riding and proper care. YMMV.

eddie

=)

Kenneth Edick · Post by **Kenneth Edick** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:24 pm

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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM, mark ward wrote: It ALWAYS, comes down to 1 main answer, you NEED a (Volt/Amp/continuity) Meter. While I do have a $6. Harbor freight I also have 5 others up to $340. (needed for my job. A $25.-$30. one would be nice for what you would do & more. [b]From:[/b] david zawadzki [b]To:[/b] DeGroot Patrick [b]Cc:[/b] KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, January 20, 2014 10:47 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question [u][/u] This is great!. Thank you all. I will get back to you in a few days. Ps- I only added a 12v charger to the bike. No extras (yet) -David [u][/u][u][/u]On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:25 PM, DeGroot Patrick wrote:[u][/u] -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 1/18/14, david zawadzki wrote: Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question To: "KLR Group" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 9:54 PM David, there are a few things you can check /do without too much trouble , first off with the extra cold did you change to a "winter oil"? something like a 5w20 , the oils that protect so great in the heat turn to glue in the cold requiring more power when batteries show their weaknes, I suggest checking if your battery connections are tight , i almost was stranded by a lose ground cable , the lights would light but as soon as i pressed the starter it fell flat , cleaned and tightened the battery terminals and all was fixed . I like to clean the electrical connections and use dielectric grease to keep water and corrosion away . I have since put the headlight on relays with the addition of an on/off switch to give even more power to the starter etc but that is more complicated . you might pick up a trickle charger with a quick disconnect or an onboard model , I have one that plugs into the cig lighter socket i added , and on other bikes / riding lawnmower the quick disconnect , that way you install and dont need to pull the battery , the battery in my KLR is from a 2004 Nomad 1500 , been on a trickle charger from day one in 2004 and still going strong (yes ten years old) upgraded the Nomads battery a year or so back and reused as it was still good . that said, the KLR can handle a bigger battery than specified just measure and make sure the terminals line up . [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u] Gents,[u][/u] I have a 2007 KLR650. I charged up my battery and[u][/u] the bike starts for a few days and then it sounds like the[u][/u] battery is dying/dead. Some of you recommended to get a V[u][/u] meter and check whats draining the battery.[u][/u] [u][/u] I have not done that yet because it's been[u][/u] really cold in NY and i have no garage (the great city[u][/u] life...). What i did do was take the battery out to recharge[u][/u] at home (trickle charger). To my surprise the battery was[u][/u] fully charged in 30 minutes which means that the battery is[u][/u] good. Could it be a starter? Where should i look? Any[u][/u] ideas?[u][/u] [u][/u] ps- i've done some work on the bike but[u][/u] electrical stuff is all new to me so please respond as if[u][/u] you were talking to your 12 year old son

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John Biccum · Post by **John Biccum** » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:37 pm

I got about 6 years out of my first Odyssey battery on the KLR so it s worth it for me. No reason to go for the more expensive MJ suffix though, that suffix means metal jacket and the metal jacket does nothing for the KLR. The MJ was created for big twin Harleys that were roasting the battery in its stock location.

One thing that I wasn t so happy with the Odyssey battery was that it seemed to have full capacity one day and zero capacity the next. I was hoping for a more gradual failure curve so I could replace it before failure.

If you use the Odyssey you will need to extend two of the factory wires to the battery since the Odyssey s terminals are on the side rather than the top of the battery. The two wires that need to be extended are the smaller (14ga?) wires not the high current ones to the starter relay and to ground. I made extention jumpers for the two 14ga that had a bullet plug on one end (to match the female on the wiring harness) and a female socket on the other end to suit the bullet on the existing pigtails on the stock battery.

[b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]mark ward [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, April 01, 2014 8:32 AM [b]To:[/b] RobertWichert; david zawadzki [b]Cc:[/b] DeGroot Patrick; KLR Group [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question

Everyone brags about Gell, I installed a Bike master "TruGell" $100. last spring, no good now, 12.1volts only 80percent charging.

SO Is it worth $150. for an Odessey compared to $50. for a wet cell?

[b]From:[/b] RobertWichert [b]To:[/b] david zawadzki ; mark ward [b]Cc:[/b] DeGroot Patrick ; KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:06 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question

Buying something new for the bike always makes it happy. It will run great for a while. It might get a little jealous if you ride another bike or drive the truck too much. Then you might have to buy some spare lights or some new farkle.
Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C+1 916 966 9060FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================On 4/1/2014 7:58 AM, david zawadzki wrote:

New battery. No more problems
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM, mark ward wrote:
It ALWAYS, comes down to 1 main answer, you NEED a (Volt/Amp/continuity) Meter.

While I do have a $6. Harbor freight I also have 5 others up to $340. (needed for my job.

A $25.-$30. one would be nice for what you would do & more.

[b]From:[/b] david zawadzki [b]To:[/b] DeGroot Patrick [b]Cc:[/b] KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, January 20, 2014 10:47 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question

This is great!. Thank you all. I will get back to you in a few days.

Ps- I only added a 12v charger to the bike. No extras (yet)

-David
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:25 PM, DeGroot Patrick wrote:
-------------------------------------------- On Sat, 1/18/14, david zawadzki wrote: Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question To: "KLR Group" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 9:54 PM David, there are a few things you can check /do without too much trouble , first off with the extra cold did you change to a "winter oil"? something like a 5w20 , the oils that protect so great in the heat turn to glue in the cold requiring more power when batteries show their weaknes, I suggest checking if your battery connections are tight , i almost was stranded by a lose ground cable , the lights would light but as soon as i pressed the starter it fell flat , cleaned and tightened the battery terminals and all was fixed . I like to clean the electrical connections and use dielectric grease to keep water and corrosion away . I have since put the headlight on relays with the addition of an on/off switch to give even more power to the starter etc but that is more complicated . you might pick up a trickle charger with a quick disconnect or an onboard model , I have one that plugs into the cig lighter socket i added , and on other bikes / riding lawnmower the quick disconnect , that way you install and dont need to pull the battery , the battery in my KLR is from a 2004 Nomad 1500 , been on a trickle charger from day one in 2004 and still going strong (yes ten years old) upgraded the Nomads battery a year or so back and reused as it was still good . that said, the KLR can handle a bigger battery than specified just measure and make sure the terminals line up .
Gents, I have a 2007 KLR650. I charged up my battery and the bike starts for a few days and then it sounds like the battery is dying/dead. Some of you recommended to get a V meter and check whats draining the battery. I have not done that yet because it's been really cold in NY and i have no garage (the great city life...). What i did do was take the battery out to recharge at home (trickle charger). To my surprise the battery was fully charged in 30 minutes which means that the battery is good. Could it be a starter? Where should i look? Any ideas? ps- i've done some work on the bike but electrical stuff is all new to me so please respond as if you were talking to your 12 year old son -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 http://www.thelegendofzarko.com/

--

David Z

mobile: 646-267-1109

www.thelegendofzarko.com

--

David Z

mobile: 646-267-1109

www.thelegendofzarko.com

RobertWichert · Post by **RobertWichert** » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:11 pm

I want one of those Shorai batteries. Gotta find the money or wait until my gel dies. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 4/4/2014 10:43 AM, Cox, John wrote:

I am pretty happy with Shorai battery.

[b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]John Biccum [b]Sent:[/b] Friday, April 04, 2014 10:38 AM [b]To:[/b] 'mark ward'; 'RobertWichert'; 'david zawadzki' [b]Cc:[/b] 'DeGroot Patrick'; 'KLR Group' [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question

I got about 6 years out of my first Odyssey battery on the KLR so it s worth it for me. No reason to go for the more expensive MJ suffix though, that suffix means metal jacket and the metal jacket does nothing for the KLR. The MJ was created for big twin Harleys that were roasting the battery in its stock location.

One thing that I wasn t so happy with the Odyssey battery was that it seemed to have full capacity one day and zero capacity the next. I was hoping for a more gradual failure curve so I could replace it before failure.

If you use the Odyssey you will need to extend two of the factory wires to the battery since the Odyssey s terminals are on the side rather than the top of the battery. The two wires that need to be extended are the smaller (14ga?) wires not the high current ones to the starter relay and to ground. I made extention jumpers for the two 14ga that had a bullet plug on one end (to match the female on the wiring harness) and a female socket on the other end to suit the bullet on the existing pigtails on the stock battery.

[b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]mark ward [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, April 01, 2014 8:32 AM [b]To:[/b] RobertWichert; david zawadzki [b]Cc:[/b] DeGroot Patrick; KLR Group [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question

Everyone brags about Gell, I installed a Bike master "TruGell" $100. last spring, no good now, 12.1volts only 80percent charging.

SO Is it worth $150. for an Odessey compared to $50. for a wet cell?

[b]From:[/b] RobertWichert [b]To:[/b] david zawadzki ; mark ward [b]Cc:[/b] DeGroot Patrick ; KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:06 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question

Buying something new for the bike always makes it happy. It will run great for a while. It might get a little jealous if you ride another bike or drive the truck too much. Then you might have to buy some spare lights or some new farkle.

Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 =============================================== On 4/1/2014 7:58 AM, david zawadzki wrote:

New battery. No more problems

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:16 AM, mark ward wrote:

It ALWAYS, comes down to 1 main answer, you NEED a (Volt/Amp/continuity) Meter.

While I do have a $6. Harbor freight I also have 5 others up to $340. (needed for my job.

A $25.-$30. one would be nice for what you would do & more.

[b]From:[/b] david zawadzki [b]To:[/b] DeGroot Patrick [b]Cc:[/b] KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, January 20, 2014 10:47 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question

This is great!. Thank you all. I will get back to you in a few days.

Ps- I only added a 12v charger to the bike. No extras (yet)

-David

On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:25 PM, DeGroot Patrick wrote:

-------------------------------------------- On Sat, 1/18/14, david zawadzki wrote: Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question To: "KLR Group" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 9:54 PM David, there are a few things you can check /do without too much trouble , first off with the extra cold did you change to a "winter oil"? something like a 5w20 , the oils that protect so great in the heat turn to glue in the cold requiring more power when batteries show their weaknes, I suggest checking if your battery connections are tight , i almost was stranded by a lose ground cable , the lights would light but as soon as i pressed the starter it fell flat , cleaned and tightened the battery terminals and all was fixed . I like to clean the electrical connections and use dielectric grease to keep water and corrosion away . I have since put the headlight on relays with the addition of an on/off switch to give even more power to the starter etc but that is more complicated . you might pick up a trickle charger with a quick disconnect or an onboard model , I have one that plugs into the cig lighter socket i added , and on other bikes / riding lawnmower the quick disconnect , that way you install and dont need to pull the battery , the battery in my KLR is from a 2004 Nomad 1500 , been on a trickle charger from day one in 2004 and still going strong (yes ten years old) upgraded the Nomads battery a year or so back and reused as it was still good . that said, the KLR can handle a bigger battery than specified just measure and make sure the terminals line up .

Gents, I have a 2007 KLR650. I charged up my battery and the bike starts for a few days and then it sounds like the battery is dying/dead. Some of you recommended to get a V meter and check whats draining the battery. I have not done that yet because it's been really cold in NY and i have no garage (the great city life...). What i did do was take the battery out to recharge at home (trickle charger). To my surprise the battery was fully charged in 30 minutes which means that the battery is good. Could it be a starter? Where should i look? Any ideas? ps- i've done some work on the bike but electrical stuff is all new to me so please respond as if you were talking to your 12 year old son

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Fred Hink · Post by **Fred Hink** » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:48 pm

There are several companies making Lithium-Ion batteries for motorcycles now. Most companies make a general size battery and will be much smaller and lighter than the original. It should have enough cranking amps but with a smaller case you will need to add some filler so the battery doesn t shake itself to death. The Lithium-Ion batteries I sell are from a company called Ballistic and they have come out with this year a battery that has the same cranking amps as the batteries they made in the past but put into a case that is the same size as the original it is replacing. Ballistic also offers a higher cranking amp battery for those in cold climates. The standard Lithium-Ion battery for the KLR will have 8 cells and the upgrade will have 12 cells. Amp hours goes from 4.6 for the standard Li-Ion up to 6.9 for the 12 cell. Standard battery weighs 2 pounds and the 12 cell is a whopping 2.5 pounds. The 12 cell also fits the standard KLR battery box, no modifications or need to change or lengthen the battery cables. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com [b]From:[/b] robert@... [b]Sent:[/b] Friday, April 04, 2014 12:11 PM [b]To:[/b] John.Cox@... ; johnbiccum@... ; nomad59@... ; fordavidz@... [b]Cc:[/b] degroot93@... ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Quick battery question I want one of those Shorai batteries. Gotta find the money or wait until my gel dies. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 4/4/2014 10:43 AM, Cox, John wrote: #ygrps-yiv-203074334 v\00003a* {} #ygrps-yiv-203074334 o\00003a* {} #ygrps-yiv-203074334 w\00003a* {} #ygrps-yiv-203074334 .ygrps-yiv-203074334shape {} I am pretty happy with Shorai battery.