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[Eddie]

And noone thought to suggest he teach the bike the words to get it to stop whistling? Ya'll must be out having fun riding.

;-)

[Norm Keller]

  "And noone thought to suggest he teach the bike the words to get it to stop whistling? Ya'll must be out having fun riding.   "     LMAO   Eddie, that might be one of the top ten best KLR responses I've heard!

[Norm Keller]

Can't recall if has been mentioned but has your bike's filler cap vent, then rubber seal which seals the conical extension to the other side?   Sometimes this is missing and encourages the noise. As others have said: normal, not a concern.   Many, many other kinds of bikes do the same. The bikes having a carbon canister, vapor recovery will leak from the cap area rather than into the canister but other than that, no problem. My ST1100 Honda used to whistle happily to itself while riding and in an objecting manner when parked in the garage. It simply adds character, IMO.   Hope my view doesn't seem disrespectful as it is intended to be the reverse. Nothing better than to notice things, then investigate, IME. Often the only way we learn about something is from another's mention.   If your cap lacks the rubber seal (consult the parts fiche), you might wish to cut one from a slice of vacuum hose or place an "O" ring to see if that solves the whistle. Regardless of whether you decide to retain the rubber seal, you will have identified one possible. I like the seal, although it is not used for all KLR's, because it seems to reduce the chance of fuel leakage into the top tank area when the bike is tipped. If we have to have a fire, better not there, IMO.   Talking climate change denial is a worse waste of time than an oil thread, IME. The weight of scientific evidence is clear on the matter. The questions needing to be addressed are around what is the best strategy for mitigating the effects. Most of us will be a "non-parrot" by the time the effects become critical so why bother about the effects on our descendents? They haven't bothered about us.... 

[Stephen North]

Your last paragraph with the words "parrot" and "denial" won't get you anywhere in the climate debate either. Science is never "settled" and using inflammatory language like "denial" only strengthens the other view point. Having a degree in Forestry has made me very interested in this topic and I have researched it considerably. I don't claim to be an expert on the subject but Contrary to most of what you read in the (often agenda driven) mainstream press, there are many scientists that don't agree with your "settled" science and that view is based on facts not hyperbole or research funding. The earths temperature and climate has ALWAYS changed and will continue to do so no matter what man does. If you want to talk about clean water or clean air I'm all ears. Best, Steve Stitches Afloat LLC 4580 Harbor Road Shelburne Vermont 05482 802-985-9547 www.stitchesafloat.com stitchesafloat@...

[Norm Keller]

I know several foresters who hold that climate change is ongoing.   That said, the comment was not meant to be dismissive of your conclusions. It was simply reference to my background in influencing human behavior which indicates to me that humans are not good at making rational decisions but rather trend to defending preconceptions. The climate change question is not likely to be settled here, or anywhere apparently, because the positions are primarily based on tribalism, IMO.   Lacking the means to decide on a personal basis, we are all required to weigh the information and to make a decision based on what seems most credible. Unfortunately the percentage of the population who are positioned to even develop a credible position is tiny.   When one hears the opinion of some medical doctor quoted as being qualified to hold a scientific opinion on geology, for example, one needs a couple of extra hands to face palm. Not picking on doctors but simply an illustration that opinions are scattered like fluff in a storm and that people seldom even consider whether the opinion offered is credible.   I know and, know of, people working in the climate change field who have demonstrated competency so, having been compelled to make a choice, am tentatively going with what they support. Hope climate is not changing as am old and think things are just fine.   Seems, though, that oil threads are more productive if one wishes to waste time in fruitless argument.   I hadn't intended "parrot" or  "denial" as inflammatory as these simply illustrate how we humans make decisions. Reference Daniel Kahneman (Nobel Prize), Steven Pinker, Peter Boghassian, etc.   Likely, what has happened is not that we disagree but rather that my craftsmanship of the message was not effective in conveying the intent. An ongoing problem with web communications in particular.

[RobertWichert]

BUT MY GAS TANK STILL WHISTLES! Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 3/25/2014 9:44 AM, Norm Keller wrote:

  I know several foresters who hold that climate change is ongoing.   That said, the comment was not meant to be dismissive of your conclusions. It was simply reference to my background in influencing human behavior which indicates to me that humans are not good at making rational decisions but rather trend to defending preconceptions. The climate change question is not likely to be settled here, or anywhere apparently, because the positions are primarily based on tribalism, IMO.   Lacking the means to decide on a personal basis, we are all required to weigh the information and to make a decision based on what seems most credible. Unfortunately the percentage of the population who are positioned to even develop a credible position is tiny.   When one hears the opinion of some medical doctor quoted as being qualified to hold a scientific opinion on geology, for example, one needs a couple of extra hands to face palm. Not picking on doctors but simply an illustration that opinions are scattered like fluff in a storm and that people seldom even consider whether the opinion offered is credible.   I know and, know of, people working in the climate change field who have demonstrated competency so, having been compelled to make a choice, am tentatively going with what they support. Hope climate is not changing as am old and think things are just fine.   Seems, though, that oil threads are more productive if one wishes to waste time in fruitless argument.   I hadn't intended "parrot" or  "denial" as inflammatory as these simply illustrate how we humans make decisions. Reference Daniel Kahneman (Nobel Prize), Steven Pinker, Peter Boghassian, etc.   Likely, what has happened is not that we disagree but rather that my craftsmanship of the message was not effective in conveying the intent. An ongoing problem with web communications in particular.

[Mike Frey]

Climate Change is responsible for that! The climate inside your gas tank is different from the climate outside the gas tank. Inside, it's gaseous, like, say... Uranus. Outside, not so much. Pressures always try to equalize. My KLR whistled from the day it rolled off the showroom floor. It still does, 10 years later.

On 3/25/2014 1:49 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > BUT MY GAS TANK STILL WHISTLES! > > > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > =============================================== > On 3/25/2014 9:44 AM, Norm Keller wrote: >> >> I know several foresters who hold that climate change is ongoing. >> That said, the comment was not meant to be dismissive of your >> conclusions. It was simply reference to my background in influencing >> human behavior which indicates to me that humans are not good at >> making rational decisions but rather trend to defending >> preconceptions. The climate change question is not likely to be >> settled here, or anywhere apparently, because the positions are >> primarily based on tribalism, IMO. >> Lacking the means to decide on a personal basis, we are all required >> to weigh the information and to make a decision based on what seems >> most credible. Unfortunately the percentage of the population who are >> positioned to even develop a credible position is tiny. >> When one hears the opinion of some medical doctor quoted as being >> qualified to hold a scientific opinion on geology, for example, one >> needs a couple of extra hands to face palm. Not picking on doctors >> but simply an illustration that opinions are scattered like fluff in >> a storm and that people seldom even consider whether the opinion >> offered is credible. >> I know and, know of, people working in the climate change field who >> have demonstrated competency so, having been compelled to make a >> choice, am tentatively going with what they support. Hope climate is >> not changing as am old and think things are just fine. >> Seems, though, that oil threads are more productive if one wishes to >> waste time in fruitless argument. >> I hadn't intended "parrot" or "denial" as inflammatory as these >> simply illustrate how we humans make decisions. Reference Daniel >> Kahneman (Nobel Prize), Steven Pinker, Peter Boghassian, etc. >> Likely, what has happened is not that we disagree but rather that my >> craftsmanship of the message was not effective in conveying the >> intent. An ongoing problem with web communications in particular. > >

[Ateam]

The climate is changing and we have to stop it .  I am very sorry to chime in here and delve into the political world as I hate politics, both sides of the isle.   The climate change mantra is just a scam, the biggest scam outside of social security the government has launched.  Please please explain why the climate has changed so many times in the last [b]4.7 BILLION YEARS[/b], please.   Why is Ohio Indiana-etc.. flat and then there is Kentucky and other states with mountains?  Why is there a big ass river there (Ohio River)?  Why did that big ass ice shield bull doze it s way south and then stop and retreat, several times?  What caused that to happen?  Oh yea, this all happened like yesterday geologically speaking.  The poles have shifted (traded places) hundreds of times.  The dendrocnology and ice dating has proven gradual climate changes in very very recent years interrupted by catastrophic climate changes.  Stick around for 500,000 years (this is like 2 minutes of earths total time) and see what the planet looks like.  Humans tend to think of the climate in years, not even decades, centuries of epochs.  But then being a PG really allows me to only speculate.  Imagine your educated and seemingly smart friend who supports the climate change dogma, but then he is also paid to study and yes, maybe even support it?  Imagine that.   I think that if you disagree with the tax change, I mean climate change you should be jailed right?  Again, this is nothing more than shyster carbon busting Big Al Gore and company a means to put their hand in your pocket.  One last rant, Mount Pinatubo put more CO2 in the atmosphere than we can negate in the next 10,000 years.  Man kind can eliminate all CO2 emissions forever and one medium sized volcano will negate this taxed effort in the order of 10,000 times what we can do to control CO2.  Not to mention reducing third world country emissions.  Please just take a look at a global map.  Put Europe and N. America all together, then add up the rest of the polluting world.  Compare the land mass.  Then look at the total land mass versus water.  Developing countries that can or could eliminate CO2 is about 3%.  Then you have the remaining 27% polluters or no mans land.  The rest is water.  But I digress, I m sure we as the USA can change the world or at least the climate.  Come on China, Mexico, Russia, lets get that green feelin going, lets save the planet and can t we just get along, hold hands and sing that song?  I got to go and get in line to buy a Prius.   Ignorance is bliss.   That is all.  Ateam Tony Herald, PG   I m going to go ride the KLRRR today, clear a few demons from the head.  When I ride, even the demons are happy..........   [b]From:[/b] normkel32@... [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:44 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [Bulk] Re: [DSN_KLR650] My Gas tank still whistles    

I know several foresters who hold that climate change is ongoing.   That said, the comment was not meant to be dismissive of your conclusions. It was simply reference to my background in influencing human behavior which indicates to me that humans are not good at making rational decisions but rather trend to defending preconceptions. The climate change question is not likely to be settled here, or anywhere apparently, because the positions are primarily based on tribalism, IMO.   Lacking the means to decide on a personal basis, we are all required to weigh the information and to make a decision based on what seems most credible. Unfortunately the percentage of the population who are positioned to even develop a credible position is tiny.   When one hears the opinion of some medical doctor quoted as being qualified to hold a scientific opinion on geology, for example, one needs a couple of extra hands to face palm. Not picking on doctors but simply an illustration that opinions are scattered like fluff in a storm and that people seldom even consider whether the opinion offered is credible.   I know and, know of, people working in the climate change field who have demonstrated competency so, having been compelled to make a choice, am tentatively going with what they support. Hope climate is not changing as am old and think things are just fine.   Seems, though, that oil threads are more productive if one wishes to waste time in fruitless argument.   I hadn't intended "parrot" or  "denial" as inflammatory as these simply illustrate how we humans make decisions. Reference Daniel Kahneman (Nobel Prize), Steven Pinker, Peter Boghassian, etc.   Likely, what has happened is not that we disagree but rather that my craftsmanship of the message was not effective in conveying the intent. An ongoing problem with web communications in particular.

[Norm Keller]

Can't be climate change and if it doesn't do requests, have you checked for the rubber seal?            "We've got no money so we've got to think." Ernest Rutherford the father of nuclear physics.

[Jeff Khoury]

If you don't like the whistling, you can always teach it to hum. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Keller" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:27:16 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [DSN_KLR650] My Gas tank still whistles Can't be climate change and if it doesn't do requests, have you checked for the rubber seal? "We've got no money so we've got to think." Ernest Rutherford the father of nuclear physics.