Look what I found!
Volcanoes, in perspective. According to the USGS though, so take it with as much salt as you wish.
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanowatch/archive/2007/07_02_15.html
Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 3/25/2014 12:23 PM, RobertWichert wrote:
To Quote Bill Cosby...
"Why is there air? There is air to blow up volleyballs! That's why there is air".
Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 =============================================== On 3/25/2014 12:14 PM, Ateam wrote:
The climate is changing and we have to stop it . I am very sorry to chime in here and delve into the political world as I hate politics, both sides of the isle. The climate change mantra is just a scam, the biggest scam outside of social security the government has launched. Please please explain why the climate has changed so many times in the last [b]4.7 BILLION YEARS[/b], please. Why is Ohio Indiana-etc.. flat and then there is Kentucky and other states with mountains? Why is there a big ass river there (Ohio River)? Why did that big ass ice shield bull doze it s way south and then stop and retreat, several times? What caused that to happen? Oh yea, this all happened like yesterday geologically speaking. The poles have shifted (traded places) hundreds of times. The dendrocnology and ice dating has proven gradual climate changes in very very recent years interrupted by catastrophic climate changes. Stick around for 500,000 years (this is like 2 minutes of earths total time) and see what the planet looks like. Humans tend to think of the climate in years, not even decades, centuries of epochs. But then being a PG really allows me to only speculate. Imagine your educated and seemingly smart friend who supports the climate change dogma, but then he is also paid to study and yes, maybe even support it? Imagine that. I think that if you disagree with the tax change, I mean climate change you should be jailed right? Again, this is nothing more than shyster carbon busting Big Al Gore and company a means to put their hand in your pocket. One last rant, Mount Pinatubo put more CO2 in the atmosphere than we can negate in the next 10,000 years. Man kind can eliminate all CO2 emissions forever and one medium sized volcano will negate this taxed effort in the order of 10,000 times what we can do to control CO2. Not to mention reducing third world country emissions. Please just take a look at a global map. Put Europe and N. America all together, then add up the rest of the polluting world. Compare the land mass. Then look at the total land mass versus water. Developing countries that can or could eliminate CO2 is about 3%. Then you have the remaining 27% polluters or no mans land. The rest is water. But I digress, I m sure we as the USA can change the world or at least the climate. Come on China, Mexico, Russia, lets get that green feelin going, lets save the planet and can t we just get along, hold hands and sing that song? I got to go and get in line to buy a Prius. Ignorance is bliss. That is all. Ateam Tony Herald, PG I m going to go ride the KLRRR today, clear a few demons from the head. When I ride, even the demons are happy.......... [b]From:[/b] normkel32@... [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:44 AM [b]To:[/b]
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I know several foresters who hold that climate change is ongoing. That said, the comment was not meant to be dismissive of your conclusions. It was simply reference to my background in influencing human behavior which indicates to me that humans are not good at making rational decisions but rather trend to defending preconceptions. The climate change question is not likely to be settled here, or anywhere apparently, because the positions are primarily based on tribalism, IMO. Lacking the means to decide on a personal basis, we are all required to weigh the information and to make a decision based on what seems most credible. Unfortunately the percentage of the population who are positioned to even develop a credible position is tiny. When one hears the opinion of some medical doctor quoted as being qualified to hold a scientific opinion on geology, for example, one needs a couple of extra hands to face palm. Not picking on doctors but simply an illustration that opinions are scattered like fluff in a storm and that people seldom even consider whether the opinion offered is credible. I know and, know of, people working in the climate change field who have demonstrated competency so, having been compelled to make a choice, am tentatively going with what they support. Hope climate is not changing as am old and think things are just fine. Seems, though, that oil threads are more productive if one wishes to waste time in fruitless argument.
I hadn't intended "parrot" or "denial" as inflammatory as these simply illustrate how we humans make decisions. Reference Daniel Kahneman (Nobel Prize), Steven Pinker, Peter Boghassian, etc. Likely, what has happened is not that we disagree but rather that my craftsmanship of the message was not effective in conveying the intent. An ongoing problem with web communications in particular.
