[gcdsr) [dsn_klr650] i have an idea

[Stu Mitchell]

Btw Disclaimer I am not affiliated or related in any way with KLR650.com but I did also buy their LED strobe tail light Sometimes I go with - Better to ask for forgiveness than for permission LED Taillight Rally Kit Works 87-07 KLR650s http://klr650.com/images/Led%20Taillight.jpgLED Taillight Rally Kit Price $ 89.95 LED Taillight Rally Kit More efficient and brighter compared to standard incandescent bulbs. Enhanced visibility while braking with several second strobe that pulses right before the standard solid brake light beam. If the strobe function is not desired, it can simply be turned off to have standard brake light function. Simple plug-n-go installation 8x less power used for running light and 5x less power used for brake light (compared to standard incandescent bulb). Count the LEDs compared to the WOW brand. Don't get "wow I can't believe I got rear-ended." OFFROAD: Rally Lighting Kit Comes with: LED Tail Light (201-1648) Ceramic Headlight Bulb Holder (201-CH4) New HIF Headlight Bulb (201-0416) *NOT DOT APPROVED* The lens is made for bulb style brake light Stu o&>o From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stu Mitchell Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:13 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Bulk] RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: "IL-Legal" head lights?? HALOGEN INFRARED REFLECTING BULB Works 87-07 KLR650s http://klr650.com/HIRBulb.jpgHalogen Infrared Reflecting Bulb Price $ 22.19 Halogen Infrared Reflecting Bulb H-4 Applications New Infrared Technology 4200 Kelvin Only uses 35 watts but brighter than stock Reflects the road markings and signs better. Less eye fatigue WARNING: DO NOT LOOK AT BULB WITH NAKED EYE Halogen Infrared Reflecting Bulb Price $22.19 each 201-0146 Top of Form Bottom of Form Top of Form Bottom of Form It s a legit technology and it ain t kidding you ll see spots if you look at the headlight within 10 . Yeah, telling me not to look virtually guarantees that I will. But for oncoming cars, it is not so bright that it creates an issue for them like 100w HiBeams I don t have any metrics for longevity or durability (not sensitive to vibration/shock) but so far so good. As far as draw I have not put a meter on it and I am in the process of upgrading my stator for other reasons, but I m inclined to agree with the demands claim as it is consistent with other sources on the internet. After I put the new stator in, I am going to benchmark and catalog draw for all standard accessories, so I will know how much I have to play with. Stu o&>o ~~~~~/)~~~~~ It takes a lot of courage to release the familiar and seemingly secure, to embrace the new. But there is no real security in what is no longer meaningful. There is more security in the adventurous and exciting, for in movement there is life, and in change there is power. From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Norm Keller Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:45 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: "IL-Legal" head lights?? Stu, are your HIR, like these? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2pcs-H4-P43T-12V-100-90W-White-HIR-Xenon-Head-Light-F og-Lamp-Bulb-for-Auto-Car-/380758458198?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorie s http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2pcs-H4-P43T-12V-100-90W-White-HIR-Xenon-Head-Light- http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2pcs-H4-P43T-12V-100-90W-White-HIR-Xenon-Head-Light- %0bFog-Lamp-Bulb-for-Auto-Car-/380758458198?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Access ori%0bes&hash=item58a6f8ff56&vxp=mtr> Fog-Lamp-Bulb-for-Auto-Car-/380758458198?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessori es&hash=item58a6f8ff56&vxp=mtr> &hash=item58a6f8ff56&vxp=mtr I haven't played with these but have been tempted to order some for interest. Any other observations at all? Have you measured draw? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[david.r.nichols@sbcglobal.net]

Electrical Connection makes these LED headlight bulbs that will fit first gen KLR's. They look well engineered. They are designed to fit into existing headlight housings and use existing reflector designs. Its an H4 Hi/Low type: http://www.electricalconnection.com/other-lighting/led-hl-h4.htm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Mitchell" wrote: > > Btw > > > > Disclaimer > > I am not affiliated or related in any way with KLR650.com but I did also > buy their LED strobe tail light > > > > Sometimes I go with - "Better to ask for forgiveness than for permission" > > > > > LED Taillight Rally Kit > Works 87-07 KLR650s > > > http://klr650.com/images/Led%20Taillight.jpgLED Taillight Rally Kit > Price $ 89.95 > > > > LED Taillight Rally Kit > > More efficient and brighter compared to standard incandescent bulbs. > > > > Enhanced visibility while braking with several second strobe that pulses > right before the standard solid brake light beam. > > > > If the strobe function is not desired, it can simply be turned off to > have standard brake light function. > > > > Simple plug-n-go installation > > > > 8x less power used for running light and 5x less power used for brake > light (compared to standard incandescent bulb). > > Count the LEDs compared to the WOW brand. Don't get "wow I can't believe > I got rear-ended." > > > > OFFROAD: Rally Lighting Kit Comes with: > > LED Tail Light (201-1648) > > Ceramic Headlight Bulb Holder (201-CH4) > > New HIF Headlight Bulb (201-0416) > > > > *NOT DOT APPROVED* > The lens is made for bulb style brake light > > > > > > Stu > > o&>o > > > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Stu Mitchell > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:13 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Bulk] RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: "IL-Legal" head lights?? > > > > > > > HALOGEN INFRARED REFLECTING BULB > Works 87-07 KLR650s > > http://klr650.com/HIRBulb.jpgHalogen Infrared Reflecting Bulb > Price $ 22.19 > > Halogen Infrared Reflecting Bulb > > H-4 Applications > > New Infrared Technology > > 4200 Kelvin > > Only uses 35 watts but brighter than stock > > Reflects the road markings and signs better. Less eye fatigue > > WARNING: DO NOT LOOK AT BULB WITH NAKED EYE > > Halogen Infrared Reflecting Bulb > Price $22.19 each > 201-0146 > > Top of Form > > Bottom of Form > > Top of Form > > Bottom of Form > > It's a legit technology and it ain't kidding you'll see spots if you look > at the headlight within 10'. Yeah, telling me not to look virtually > guarantees that I will. > > But for oncoming cars, it is not so bright that it creates an issue for them > like 100w HiBeams > > I don't have any metrics for longevity or durability (not sensitive to > vibration/shock) but so far so good. > > As far as draw I have not put a meter on it and I am in the process of > upgrading my stator for other reasons, but I'm inclined to agree with the > demands claim as it is consistent with other sources on the internet. After > I put the new stator in, I am going to benchmark and catalog draw for all > standard accessories, so I will know how much I have to "play" with. > > Stu > > o&>o > > ~~~~~/)~~~~~ > > "It takes a lot of courage to release the familiar and seemingly secure, to > embrace the new. But there is no real security in what is no longer > meaningful. There is more security in the adventurous and exciting, for in > movement there is life, and in change there is power." > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Norm Keller > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:45 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: "IL-Legal" head lights?? > > Stu, are your HIR, like these? > > http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2pcs-H4-P43T-12V-100-90W-White-HIR-Xenon-Head-Light-F > og-Lamp-Bulb-for-Auto-Car-/380758458198?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorie > s > http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2pcs-H4-P43T-12V-100-90W-White-HIR-Xenon-Head-Light- > http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2pcs-H4-P43T-12V-100-90W-White-HIR-Xenon-Head-Light- > %0bFog-Lamp-Bulb-for-Auto-Car-/380758458198?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Access > ori%0bes&hash=item58a6f8ff56&vxp=mtr> > Fog-Lamp-Bulb-for-Auto-Car-/380758458198?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessori > es&hash=item58a6f8ff56&vxp=mtr> &hash=item58a6f8ff56&vxp=mtr > > I haven't played with these but have been tempted to order some for > interest. Any other observations at all? Have you measured draw? > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Norm Keller]

I've been installing H4 HID kits off EBay for several years. These cost $30-$35.00 and have a 2 amp to 2.3 amp draw when fully "warmed up" so after a few minutes. I am also playing with improving lighting on some Honda CT90/CT110 bikes and have another LED H4 bulb on order. This bulb has about 600 Lumens output but only draws 0.4 amps. Not of interest for a KLR but looks like it might be a significant improvement for the CT's. Stepping power from 6 volts to 12 volts (14.6) is doable inexpensively for currents up to 4 or 5 amps to holding that as the limit right now.

 

The problem I see regarding this LED set-up is that it costs 2x to 3x what I can buy a standard, off the shelf HID kit. If the HID bulb or ballast quits, spares are fairly common in stores so unlikely to be stuck for either parts or trouble shooting. The LED would seem to be unique.

 

Interesting to hear your impressions if you do try but not on my radar as don't see the advantage over HID.

 

HIH

 

Norm

 

 

 

"We've got no money so we've got to think." Ernest Rutherford the father of nuclear physics.

[RobertWichert]

From what I have read on HID, there are more aiming issues than with this Plug-And-Play LED option.  Also, if it burns out it would appear that you could go back to stock by the side of the road if you had a spare bulb. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 1/9/2014 10:36 AM, Norm Keller wrote:

  I've been installing H4 HID kits off EBay for several years. These cost $30-$35.00 and have a 2 amp to 2.3 amp draw when fully "warmed up" so after a few minutes. I am also playing with improving lighting on some Honda CT90/CT110 bikes and have another LED H4 bulb on order. This bulb has about 600 Lumens output but only draws 0.4 amps. Not of interest for a KLR but looks like it might be a significant improvement for the CT's. Stepping power from 6 volts to 12 volts (14.6) is doable inexpensively for currents up to 4 or 5 amps to holding that as the limit right now.   The problem I see regarding this LED set-up is that it costs 2x to 3x what I can buy a standard, off the shelf HID kit. If the HID bulb or ballast quits, spares are fairly common in stores so unlikely to be stuck for either parts or trouble shooting. The LED would seem to be unique.   Interesting to hear your impressions if you do try but not on my radar as don't see the advantage over HID.   HIH   Norm       "We've got no money so we've got to think." Ernest Rutherford the father of nuclear physics.

[Norm Keller]

FWIW, I've installed many HID units and haven't noticed most or any of the problems so often advanced. Not dismissing the potential that others may simply be more perceptive but only able to operate from what I can support through direct evidence or authority from those I accept as credible.

 

Very interested to hear about someone's experience with this LED but too expensive and unknown for me to entertain. Have you considered trying an HID kit?

 

I've been using them for years and haven't experienced flashing from other drivers to any significant degree. I think I've been flashed twice in a couple of years so think this may be unrelated to my lights. Only one flash both times so maybe simply someone thinking they were on high and trying to dim...unrelated...

 

Interested in hearing your conclusions,

 

Norm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"We've got no money so we've got to think." Ernest Rutherford the father of nuclear physics.

[RobertWichert]

Thanks for the link, Aaron. I am interested in riding that road because I really like Mendocino and Fort Bragg, so I could spend some time there and ride that road. It sounds like a good road for a KLR since it is both wide and somewhat maintained as well as a bit tricky. I would not want to ride something "Black Diamond" on what I have been told is a pretty exposed road. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 1/10/2014 9:15 AM, Aaron wrote:

As another poster mentioned, this is a seasonal road closure based on weather conditions that affect this dirt road. There are major ruts in this road that trucks/Jeeps travel, and when it gets muddy, some people drive in there anyway & tear up the county-maintained road, so they close it seasonally to keep down on the maintenance. The website to check is here: http://www.co.mendocino.ca.us/dot/roadClosures.htm I drove up there in my Subaru Baja to check it out prior to another coastal ride me & a few other GCDSR guys did back in April of last year. I found the gates closed from both the south about 6 miles in from Hwy 1 around where Usal crosses Hotel Gulch Rd & from the north end of Usal just south of the junction of Briceland Thorn Road: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=39.973141,-123.966258&num=1&vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=39.971784,-123.964899&spn=0.006553,0.009645&t=m&z=17 We still have a plan to complete our coastal ride up into Oregon & back down through the Klamath & Shasta NF areas, maybe this coming spring or summer. - Aaron [b]From:[/b] RobertWichert robert@... [b]To:[/b] tomatocity tomatocity@... [b]Cc:[/b] DSN KLR650 DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; GCDSR forum GCDSR@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Friday, January 10, 2014 8:04 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [GCDSR) Re: [DSN_KLR650] RE: I have an idea Thanks, Tim. Is this an annual closure, or permanent? Thanks! Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 =============================================== On 1/9/2014 6:11 PM, tomatocity wrote: Robert, If you are speaking of Usal Road it is closed. There is a gate that is locked. You might call the governing park service and ask if they have opened it because of dry weather. Tim On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:47 PM, RobertWichert wrote: OK, I have modified my idea. Would anybody within reach of this post be interested in a "group ride" (maybe me alone, actually) through this area? Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 =============================================== On 1/9/2014 1:05 PM, cycletip@... wrote: That's a great idea Jeffrey! Usal is a perennial favorite. Unfortunately I'll be in Tahoe for a family gathering but highly endorse this idea for anyone thinking about it. Having someone show you the ropes in this area is worth the trip itself. Stay on the trail or "the growers" may get excited. Ask Jeffrey?