camp cooking??

[Eddie]

I've made the soda can alcohol stoves and they do okay as long as it's not windy. For a hobby, I search eBay from time to time to try and find a used Svea 123 or 123R, Optimus 99 or Optimus 8R stove. If all the parts are there, it's not hard at all to bring even a crappy one back to life and into usable condition. A new Svea 123R isn't made in Sweden any more & costs around $100. I've found a "real" one for $25-$30 and have a perfectly good camp stove in a few hours of cleaning. They burn Coleman fuel and are dead reliable in most any conditions you will encounter on a bike trip. They make huge amounts of heat for their size and are great converation pieces, too. =) If anyone's interested in a before/after photo, holler off list at edgyver40@... -eddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

Hey Eddie I tried the "earthlink.net" and it failed

--- On Thu, 3/14/13, eddie wrote: From: eddie Subject: [DSN_KLR650] stoves To: "KLR650 list" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 11:43 AM I've made the soda can alcohol stoves and they do okay as long as it's not windy. For a hobby, I search eBay from time to time to try and find a used Svea 123 or 123R, Optimus 99 or Optimus 8R stove. If all the parts are there, it's not hard at all to bring even a crappy one back to life and into usable condition. A new Svea 123R isn't made in Sweden any more & costs around $100. I've found a "real" one for $25-$30 and have a perfectly good camp stove in a few hours of cleaning. They burn Coleman fuel and are dead reliable in most any conditions you will encounter on a bike trip. They make huge amounts of heat for their size and are great converation pieces, too. =) If anyone's interested in a before/after photo, holler off list at edgyver40@... -eddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[John Biccum]

I ve been through a few stoves for camping off the bike. I ve used a penny stove that burned alcohol. It was OK but had it challenges in windy conditions and at higher elevations. I switched to a MSR WhisperLight stove for a couple of years. It worked well at high output settings but wouldn t simmer very well. But the stove burned only white gas and I grew tired of hunting down and purchasing a gallon of white gas only to give most of the gallon away since I didn t have room on the bike to carry it. AFAIK, REI is the only place to buy white gas by the quart and I m not typically camping near any REI stores. I finally settled on a MSR Dragonfly stove. This stove packs as small and light as the WhisperLight but the Dragonfly burns most any fuel: white gas, unleaded gasoline, diesel etc. I typically start a camping trip with white gas in the fuel bottle and when that runs out I use unleaded direct from the bike s (Pingel manual) petcock. The DragonFly simmers very well; it will maintain a rolling boil for hours if that is what you want. This stove has just one flaw and that it is very, very loud. At full blast is sounds much like a table-top jet engine, not too surprising since it functions very much like a tiny jet engine. Another alternative might be the WhisperLight International stove. It is multi-fuel like the DragonFly but like the regular WhisperLight does not simmer very well. But if all you plan on doing is boiling water for rehydrating food it should be fine. From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mark ward Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 06:22 To: KLR650 list; eddie Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] stoves Hey Eddie I tried the "earthlink.net" and it failed

--- On Thu, 3/14/13, eddie > wrote: From: eddie > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] stoves To: "KLR650 list" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 11:43 AM I've made the soda can alcohol stoves and they do okay as long as it's not windy. For a hobby, I search eBay from time to time to try and find a used Svea 123 or 123R, Optimus 99 or Optimus 8R stove. If all the parts are there, it's not hard at all to bring even a crappy one back to life and into usable condition. A new Svea 123R isn't made in Sweden any more & costs around $100. I've found a "real" one for $25-$30 and have a perfectly good camp stove in a few hours of cleaning. They burn Coleman fuel and are dead reliable in most any conditions you will encounter on a bike trip. They make huge amounts of heat for their size and are great converation pieces, too. =) If anyone's interested in a before/after photo, holler off list at edgyver40@... -eddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- ---------- ---------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Eddie]

Dontcha hate it when you change ISP and forget your own address? Correct one - edgyver40@...

----- Original Message ----- From: mark ward To: KLR650 list ; eddie Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] stoves Hey Eddie I tried the "earthlink.net" and it failed --- On Thu, 3/14/13, eddie wrote: From: eddie Subject: [DSN_KLR650] stoves To: "KLR650 list" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 11:43 AM I've made the soda can alcohol stoves and they do okay as long as it's not windy. For a hobby, I search eBay from time to time to try and find a used Svea 123 or 123R, Optimus 99 or Optimus 8R stove. If all the parts are there, it's not hard at all to bring even a crappy one back to life and into usable condition. A new Svea 123R isn't made in Sweden any more & costs around $100. I've found a "real" one for $25-$30 and have a perfectly good camp stove in a few hours of cleaning. They burn Coleman fuel and are dead reliable in most any conditions you will encounter on a bike trip. They make huge amounts of heat for their size and are great converation pieces, too. =) If anyone's interested in a before/after photo, holler off list at edgyver40@... -eddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dat brooklyn bum]

The real question is, can they get as hot as a turkey frier so you can mold your bent metal parts as you see fit? da Vermonster

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote: > > Thanks for clarifying that, Tumu. > > We sold out of that run of stoves, but due to > their success, we just fired up a second run of > 48 stoves and hope to have them available for > sale in a couple weeks. > 100% of the proceeds support my daughter's > whitewater slalom racing efforts toward her goal > of competing at the Junior Worlds in Slovenia > this summer. > > For cold weather & windy conditions, our package > includes a windscreen and a "cold weather > performance kit." > These have been tested in temps as low as 21 F > and function great. I have some outdoor videos on > youtube demonstrating cooking of udon noodle soup > with dehydrated mushrooms, etc, in 41 and light > drizzle > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbtprADPkFo>, and > one of breakfast oatmeal below freezing., > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvUiADrmZ_w>. > I assume that if our kit running on methanol > performs this well in the cold, it will do the > same at high elevations. > > Mark > > > > > > > >Not my stoves and not my kids, but they should > >be supported anyway. It's Mark aka "elevengai" > >that is selling those to support his kids > >getting high on white water adrenaline. > > > >da Vermonster > > > >--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Powers wrote: > >> > >> You'd be better off with the alcohol stoves pimped here to support Da > >> Vermonster's kid in the canoe program. Those are some nice little stoves > >> in a handy package. > >> > >> Kevin >