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[fw189uhu]

I'm putting together a comprehensive first aid kit for local (not long-distance) riding since the military IFAKs I usually carry are not really specialized for motorcycling (for example, I don't really expect to get shot while riding around the home area). Couldn't find much specifically about this subject previously posted on this group. My goal is to obtain a non-huge first aid kit that will cover the most common local ride medical problems. Obviously a long-distance kit will have more contents and quantities, but that's a discussion for another day. What do you carry? I put together this list with an eye towards keeping the pouch size relatively small. If the kit will fit into a standard military IFAK pouch, all the better. I left "cell phone" and "water" off the list, but they're obviously important emergency items. What off-the-shelf kit can you recommend as a starting place? - Medications (travel size or sample packets) o Anti-diarrhea tablets o Anti-acid tablets (if you need them) o Antihistamine tablets o Aspirin (325 mg) o Tylenol (for those who can't take aspirin) o Motrin 500 (Ranger Candy) o Preparation H (if you need it; thank God I don't) o Emergency prescription meds o Antiseptic/Betadine wipes (3 packets) o Antibiotic ointment (3 packets) o Antimicrobial hand cleaner (small bottle or 4 packets) o Burn cream or jel/aloe vera o Eye drops - Bandages o Triangular bandage (do-rag) o Ace bandage o Band-aids (various sizes) o Knuckle & fingertip band-aids (2 each) o Large 2x4 or 4x4 band-aids (2) o Steri-Strips (butterfly sutures) (4) o Cohesive wrap 2"x75' o Large sterile gauze pads (6) - Gear o Trauma shears, heavy-duty (EMT shears) o Tweezers o Irrigation syringe o Large safety pins o Latex gloves (2 pr) o Q-tips o CPR mask o Compact first aid book o Emergency Mylar thermal blanket o Glow snap stick (emergency signaling) o Large heavy duty Zip-Loc bag (trash removal) o 4x4 gauze pads (3) o 4x4 Telfa pads (no-stick) o Small compression bandage (military) o 1" paper surgical tape (30') - Instant cold pack (1) - Tourniquet (military style Combat Application Tourniquet) - SAM splint 18" or air splint - Moleskin - Sunburn lotion - Chapstick - Electrolyte mix - Saline vials (not sure about this; drinking water seems OK to me) Most of this stuff is fairly small in the quantities indicated, but is more than will fit into a standard IFAK pouch. Of course the CAT tourniquet comes in its own separate pouch. I like the idea of including oral airways, but multiple sizes are needed and I'm not sure they're worth the space. What do you take? TIA. Digger

[Mike Huber]

Check out these first aid kits from Duluth Trading....I keep a Quikclot Silver pad handy in my top box for bleeding emergencys.... http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/mens-workshop/work-safety-gear/first-aid-kits/69138.aspx Mike Huber Carlsbad, NM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: dhk@... Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 06:16:49 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? I'm putting together a comprehensive first aid kit for local (not long-distance) riding since the military IFAKs I usually carry are not really specialized for motorcycling (for example, I don't really expect to get shot while riding around the home area). Couldn't find much specifically about this subject previously posted on this group. My goal is to obtain a non-huge first aid kit that will cover the most common local ride medical problems. Obviously a long-distance kit will have more contents and quantities, but that's a discussion for another day. What do you carry? I put together this list with an eye towards keeping the pouch size relatively small. If the kit will fit into a standard military IFAK pouch, all the better. I left "cell phone" and "water" off the list, but they're obviously important emergency items. What off-the-shelf kit can you recommend as a starting place? - Medications (travel size or sample packets) o Anti-diarrhea tablets o Anti-acid tablets (if you need them) o Antihistamine tablets o Aspirin (325 mg) o Tylenol (for those who can't take aspirin) o Motrin 500 (Ranger Candy) o Preparation H (if you need it; thank God I don't) o Emergency prescription meds o Antiseptic/Betadine wipes (3 packets) o Antibiotic ointment (3 packets) o Antimicrobial hand cleaner (small bottle or 4 packets) o Burn cream or jel/aloe vera o Eye drops - Bandages o Triangular bandage (do-rag) o Ace bandage o Band-aids (various sizes) o Knuckle & fingertip band-aids (2 each) o Large 2x4 or 4x4 band-aids (2) o Steri-Strips (butterfly sutures) (4) o Cohesive wrap 2"x75' o Large sterile gauze pads (6) - Gear o Trauma shears, heavy-duty (EMT shears) o Tweezers o Irrigation syringe o Large safety pins o Latex gloves (2 pr) o Q-tips o CPR mask o Compact first aid book o Emergency Mylar thermal blanket o Glow snap stick (emergency signaling) o Large heavy duty Zip-Loc bag (trash removal) o 4x4 gauze pads (3) o 4x4 Telfa pads (no-stick) o Small compression bandage (military) o 1" paper surgical tape (30') - Instant cold pack (1) - Tourniquet (military style Combat Application Tourniquet) - SAM splint 18" or air splint - Moleskin - Sunburn lotion - Chapstick - Electrolyte mix - Saline vials (not sure about this; drinking water seems OK to me) Most of this stuff is fairly small in the quantities indicated, but is more than will fit into a standard IFAK pouch. Of course the CAT tourniquet comes in its own separate pouch. I like the idea of including oral airways, but multiple sizes are needed and I'm not sure they're worth the space. What do you take? TIA. Digger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

You can also get them at many sporting good stores, Cabela's etc. in differant sizes. (I carry a few. My son is a Hemophiliac ...BLEEDER) First aid Kit's, I found the best place to get a 1st. Aid kit, is the RED CROSS. Many sizes, BEST PRICES, some have sorted LABELED pouchs PADE LIKE FOLDERS, with topics listed, burns, cuts, etc. AND extra to add to your kit, extra CPR mouth covers, desposable for $1-$2. I have 1 in my tank bag, back pack, each glove box, etc. If CPR is needed you use these to keep your /there mouth clean. (blood, vomit, etc.)

--- On Sun, 2/3/13, Mike Huber wrote: From: Mike Huber Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? To: dhk@..., "dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013, 7:19 AM Check out these first aid kits from Duluth Trading....I keep a Quikclot Silver pad handy in my top box for bleeding emergencys.... http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/mens-workshop/work-safety-gear/first-aid-kits/69138.aspx Mike Huber Carlsbad, NM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: dhk@... Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 06:16:49 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? I'm putting together a comprehensive first aid kit for local (not long-distance) riding since the military IFAKs I usually carry are not really specialized for motorcycling (for example, I don't really expect to get shot while riding around the home area). Couldn't find much specifically about this subject previously posted on this group. My goal is to obtain a non-huge first aid kit that will cover the most common local ride medical problems. Obviously a long-distance kit will have more contents and quantities, but that's a discussion for another day. What do you carry? I put together this list with an eye towards keeping the pouch size relatively small. If the kit will fit into a standard military IFAK pouch, all the better. I left "cell phone" and "water" off the list, but they're obviously important emergency items. What off-the-shelf kit can you recommend as a starting place? - Medications (travel size or sample packets) o Anti-diarrhea tablets o Anti-acid tablets (if you need them) o Antihistamine tablets o Aspirin (325 mg) o Tylenol (for those who can't take aspirin) o Motrin 500 (Ranger Candy) o Preparation H (if you need it; thank God I don't) o Emergency prescription meds o Antiseptic/Betadine wipes (3 packets) o Antibiotic ointment (3 packets) o Antimicrobial hand cleaner (small bottle or 4 packets) o Burn cream or jel/aloe vera o Eye drops - Bandages o Triangular bandage (do-rag) o Ace bandage o Band-aids (various sizes) o Knuckle & fingertip band-aids (2 each) o Large 2x4 or 4x4 band-aids (2) o Steri-Strips (butterfly sutures) (4) o Cohesive wrap 2"x75' o Large sterile gauze pads (6) - Gear o Trauma shears, heavy-duty (EMT shears) o Tweezers o Irrigation syringe o Large safety pins o Latex gloves (2 pr) o Q-tips o CPR mask o Compact first aid book o Emergency Mylar thermal blanket o Glow snap stick (emergency signaling) o Large heavy duty Zip-Loc bag (trash removal) o 4x4 gauze pads (3) o 4x4 Telfa pads (no-stick) o Small compression bandage (military) o 1" paper surgical tape (30') - Instant cold pack (1) - Tourniquet (military style Combat Application Tourniquet) - SAM splint 18" or air splint - Moleskin - Sunburn lotion - Chapstick - Electrolyte mix - Saline vials (not sure about this; drinking water seems OK to me) Most of this stuff is fairly small in the quantities indicated, but is more than will fit into a standard IFAK pouch. Of course the CAT tourniquet comes in its own separate pouch. I like the idea of including oral airways, but multiple sizes are needed and I'm not sure they're worth the space. What do you take? TIA. Digger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Members Map https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212558560286766214899.0004d0fa9f1732283bb6f&msa=0&ll=38.522384,-109.489746&spn=6.831383,9.624023Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

KNOWLEDGE!!!!!!, EDUCATION!!!!! IS THE BEST "TOOL" WHAT TO DO. (ALSO, what does there medical ID tag, card in wallet etc say? BLEEDER, Diabetic, ETC.!!!! LOOK for that ID) 50,000 mile LOOOOOOOOONG trip, or 1mile short trip? It's THAT, 1SECOND WHEN!!! AND 1 FOOT WHERE!! "IT" HAPPENS!!! that you are preping for. If big or many, You may just have to get "MAC GYVER" old school, cut a shirt, use duct tape, Para cord, etc., I Diebetic (also my son) may look and "ACT" drunk, or on drugs, but in FACT SUGAR is wrong. (usualy low) Cops tryed to hand cuff and arrest my son for being drunk and disorderly, falling down, mouthy, etc., lucky his boss got to the sceen quick (HAD TO YELL AT THE COPS) he's not drunk he's a diabetic. (MY 1st experiance, with such a person was, a 65yr old 120lb lady while repairing her dishwasher, 6 large men, 2cops, 2 paramedics her son and I.

--- On Sun, 2/3/13, fw189uhu wrote: From: fw189uhu Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013, 6:16 AM I'm putting together a comprehensive first aid kit for local (not long-distance) riding since the military IFAKs I usually carry are not really specialized for motorcycling (for example, I don't really expect to get shot while riding around the home area). Couldn't find much specifically about this subject previously posted on this group. My goal is to obtain a non-huge first aid kit that will cover the most common local ride medical problems. Obviously a long-distance kit will have more contents and quantities, but that's a discussion for another day. What do you carry? I put together this list with an eye towards keeping the pouch size relatively small. If the kit will fit into a standard military IFAK pouch, all the better. I left "cell phone" and "water" off the list, but they're obviously important emergency items. What off-the-shelf kit can you recommend as a starting place? - Medications (travel size or sample packets) o Anti-diarrhea tablets o Anti-acid tablets (if you need them) o Antihistamine tablets o Aspirin (325 mg) o Tylenol (for those who can't take aspirin) o Motrin 500 (Ranger Candy) o Preparation H (if you need it; thank God I don't) o Emergency prescription meds o Antiseptic/Betadine wipes (3 packets) o Antibiotic ointment (3 packets) o Antimicrobial hand cleaner (small bottle or 4 packets) o Burn cream or jel/aloe vera o Eye drops - Bandages o Triangular bandage (do-rag) o Ace bandage o Band-aids (various sizes) o Knuckle & fingertip band-aids (2 each) o Large 2x4 or 4x4 band-aids (2) o Steri-Strips (butterfly sutures) (4) o Cohesive wrap 2"x75' o Large sterile gauze pads (6) - Gear o Trauma shears, heavy-duty (EMT shears) o Tweezers o Irrigation syringe o Large safety pins o Latex gloves (2 pr) o Q-tips o CPR mask o Compact first aid book o Emergency Mylar thermal blanket o Glow snap stick (emergency signaling) o Large heavy duty Zip-Loc bag (trash removal) o 4x4 gauze pads (3) o 4x4 Telfa pads (no-stick) o Small compression bandage (military) o 1" paper surgical tape (30') - Instant cold pack (1) - Tourniquet (military style Combat Application Tourniquet) - SAM splint 18" or air splint - Moleskin - Sunburn lotion - Chapstick - Electrolyte mix - Saline vials (not sure about this; drinking water seems OK to me) Most of this stuff is fairly small in the quantities indicated, but is more than will fit into a standard IFAK pouch. Of course the CAT tourniquet comes in its own separate pouch. I like the idea of including oral airways, but multiple sizes are needed and I'm not sure they're worth the space. What do you take? TIA. Digger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

Digger, Since this is for local riding I think you could eliminate quite a bit of your list. Here's what I probably would not have in a kit for local riding. Not saying I wouldn't bring some of it along but not as part of a first aid kit.

> - Medications (travel size or sample packets) > o Anti-diarrhea tablets > o Anti-acid tablets (if you need them) > o Antihistamine tablets > o Aspirin (325 mg) > o Tylenol (for those who can't take aspirin) > o Motrin 500 (Ranger Candy) > o Preparation H (if you need it; thank God I don't) > o Emergency prescription meds > o Eye drops > o Tweezers > - Moleskin > - Sunburn lotion > - Chapstick > - Electrolyte mix > - Saline vials (not sure about this; drinking water seems OK to me)

Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 53/YO Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/510e84b71b4534b64a18st02vuc

[Fred Hink]

I try to pack light for local riding, since I am familiar with the terrain here, I know pretty much what to expect. I only carry the bare essentials, like water, food (snacks) and a coat or light jacket depending on the weather. Since I am fair skinned and I live in a desert, in the summer I also carry sunscreen. I always have Tylenol (acetaminophen) with me no matter what I am doing. Other than that, I would leave all the rest of your list at home. We all travel differently for different reasons and need different things to be able to do this. Local rides I believe in packing light and carry my wits about me. This will save you more than all the medicine in the world. On long rides away from my local area, then there are different needs and I pack accordingly. I still travel light on long rides and won t have 90% of your list with me. Part of an adventure is dealing with events as they happen. Trying to prevent all events would take away most of the fun of a trip for me. YMMV Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: fw189uhu Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 11:16 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? I'm putting together a comprehensive first aid kit for local (not long-distance) riding since the military IFAKs I usually carry are not really specialized for motorcycling (for example, I don't really expect to get shot while riding around the home area). Couldn't find much specifically about this subject previously posted on this group. My goal is to obtain a non-huge first aid kit that will cover the most common local ride medical problems. Obviously a long-distance kit will have more contents and quantities, but that's a discussion for another day. What do you carry? I put together this list with an eye towards keeping the pouch size relatively small. If the kit will fit into a standard military IFAK pouch, all the better. I left "cell phone" and "water" off the list, but they're obviously important emergency items. What off-the-shelf kit can you recommend as a starting place? - Medications (travel size or sample packets) o Anti-diarrhea tablets o Anti-acid tablets (if you need them) o Antihistamine tablets o Aspirin (325 mg) o Tylenol (for those who can't take aspirin) o Motrin 500 (Ranger Candy) o Preparation H (if you need it; thank God I don't) o Emergency prescription meds o Antiseptic/Betadine wipes (3 packets) o Antibiotic ointment (3 packets) o Antimicrobial hand cleaner (small bottle or 4 packets) o Burn cream or jel/aloe vera o Eye drops - Bandages o Triangular bandage (do-rag) o Ace bandage o Band-aids (various sizes) o Knuckle & fingertip band-aids (2 each) o Large 2x4 or 4x4 band-aids (2) o Steri-Strips (butterfly sutures) (4) o Cohesive wrap 2"x75' o Large sterile gauze pads (6) - Gear o Trauma shears, heavy-duty (EMT shears) o Tweezers o Irrigation syringe o Large safety pins o Latex gloves (2 pr) o Q-tips o CPR mask o Compact first aid book o Emergency Mylar thermal blanket o Glow snap stick (emergency signaling) o Large heavy duty Zip-Loc bag (trash removal) o 4x4 gauze pads (3) o 4x4 Telfa pads (no-stick) o Small compression bandage (military) o 1" paper surgical tape (30') - Instant cold pack (1) - Tourniquet (military style Combat Application Tourniquet) - SAM splint 18" or air splint - Moleskin - Sunburn lotion - Chapstick - Electrolyte mix - Saline vials (not sure about this; drinking water seems OK to me) Most of this stuff is fairly small in the quantities indicated, but is more than will fit into a standard IFAK pouch. Of course the CAT tourniquet comes in its own separate pouch. I like the idea of including oral airways, but multiple sizes are needed and I'm not sure they're worth the space. What do you take? TIA. Digger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

My #1 item...SPOT LOCATOR (incase of No cell coverage or have no idea how to tell them where I am at!) Fred has them, I also send mesg's to home (10emials) "I'M OK" or "I'm stopped an hr. on purpose" or "SEND HELP" (AAA Towing) (she/they know in the mesg. if I ask for "send Help", If local, I can not call, come get me, OR when out of town send AAA, bike is down but medical is NOT needed, if needed I would hit SOS) I could be Located on Google Maps

--- On Sun, 2/3/13, Jeff Saline wrote: From: Jeff Saline Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? To: dhk@... Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013, 3:37 PM Digger, Since this is for local riding I think you could eliminate quite a bit of your list. Here's what I probably would not have in a kit for local riding. Not saying I wouldn't bring some of it along but not as part of a first aid kit. > - Medications (travel size or sample packets) > o Anti-diarrhea tablets > o Anti-acid tablets (if you need them) > o Antihistamine tablets > o Aspirin (325 mg) > o Tylenol (for those who can't take aspirin) > o Motrin 500 (Ranger Candy) > o Preparation H (if you need it; thank God I don't) > o Emergency prescription meds > o Eye drops > o Tweezers > - Moleskin > - Sunburn lotion > - Chapstick > - Electrolyte mix > - Saline vials (not sure about this; drinking water seems OK to me) Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . __________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 53/YO Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/510e84b71b4534b64a18st02vuc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

ALWAYS? Tylenol (as fred said) AND Anti diarea pills, in a small AM/PM pill case $2.

--- On Sun, 2/3/13, Fred Hink wrote: From: Fred Hink Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fw189uhu" Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013, 3:54 PM I try to pack light for local riding, since I am familiar with the terrain here, I know pretty much what to expect. I only carry the bare essentials, like water, food (snacks) and a coat or light jacket depending on the weather. Since I am fair skinned and I live in a desert, in the summer I also carry sunscreen. I always have Tylenol (acetaminophen) with me no matter what I am doing. Other than that, I would leave all the rest of your list at home. We all travel differently for different reasons and need different things to be able to do this. Local rides I believe in packing light and carry my wits about me. This will save you more than all the medicine in the world. On long rides away from my local area, then there are different needs and I pack accordingly. I still travel light on long rides and won t have 90% of your list with me. Part of an adventure is dealing with events as they happen. Trying to prevent all events would take away most of the fun of a trip for me. YMMV Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: fw189uhu Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 11:16 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? I'm putting together a comprehensive first aid kit for local (not long-distance) riding since the military IFAKs I usually carry are not really specialized for motorcycling (for example, I don't really expect to get shot while riding around the home area). Couldn't find much specifically about this subject previously posted on this group. My goal is to obtain a non-huge first aid kit that will cover the most common local ride medical problems. Obviously a long-distance kit will have more contents and quantities, but that's a discussion for another day. What do you carry? I put together this list with an eye towards keeping the pouch size relatively small. If the kit will fit into a standard military IFAK pouch, all the better. I left "cell phone" and "water" off the list, but they're obviously important emergency items. What off-the-shelf kit can you recommend as a starting place? - Medications (travel size or sample packets) o Anti-diarrhea tablets o Anti-acid tablets (if you need them) o Antihistamine tablets o Aspirin (325 mg) o Tylenol (for those who can't take aspirin) o Motrin 500 (Ranger Candy) o Preparation H (if you need it; thank God I don't) o Emergency prescription meds o Antiseptic/Betadine wipes (3 packets) o Antibiotic ointment (3 packets) o Antimicrobial hand cleaner (small bottle or 4 packets) o Burn cream or jel/aloe vera o Eye drops - Bandages o Triangular bandage (do-rag) o Ace bandage o Band-aids (various sizes) o Knuckle & fingertip band-aids (2 each) o Large 2x4 or 4x4 band-aids (2) o Steri-Strips (butterfly sutures) (4) o Cohesive wrap 2"x75' o Large sterile gauze pads (6) - Gear o Trauma shears, heavy-duty (EMT shears) o Tweezers o Irrigation syringe o Large safety pins o Latex gloves (2 pr) o Q-tips o CPR mask o Compact first aid book o Emergency Mylar thermal blanket o Glow snap stick (emergency signaling) o Large heavy duty Zip-Loc bag (trash removal) o 4x4 gauze pads (3) o 4x4 Telfa pads (no-stick) o Small compression bandage (military) o 1" paper surgical tape (30') - Instant cold pack (1) - Tourniquet (military style Combat Application Tourniquet) - SAM splint 18" or air splint - Moleskin - Sunburn lotion - Chapstick - Electrolyte mix - Saline vials (not sure about this; drinking water seems OK to me) Most of this stuff is fairly small in the quantities indicated, but is more than will fit into a standard IFAK pouch. Of course the CAT tourniquet comes in its own separate pouch. I like the idea of including oral airways, but multiple sizes are needed and I'm not sure they're worth the space. What do you take? TIA. Digger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Fred Hink]

OK, so you got me. I don t carry Tylenol when I m sleeping............... zzzzzzzz zz zzzz From: mark ward Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 8:59 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com ; fw189uhu ; Fred Hink Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? ALWAYS? Tylenol (as fred said) AND Anti diarea pills, in a small AM/PM pill case $2.

--- On Sun, 2/3/13, Fred Hink mailto:moabmc%40citlink.net> wrote: From: Fred Hink mailto:moabmc%40citlink.net> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? To: mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "fw189uhu" mailto:dhk%40asphaleiabizsystems.com> Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013, 3:54 PM I try to pack light for local riding, since I am familiar with the terrain here, I know pretty much what to expect. I only carry the bare essentials, like water, food (snacks) and a coat or light jacket depending on the weather. Since I am fair skinned and I live in a desert, in the summer I also carry sunscreen. I always have Tylenol (acetaminophen) with me no matter what I am doing. Other than that, I would leave all the rest of your list at home. We all travel differently for different reasons and need different things to be able to do this. Local rides I believe in packing light and carry my wits about me. This will save you more than all the medicine in the world. On long rides away from my local area, then there are different needs and I pack accordingly. I still travel light on long rides and won t have 90% of your list with me. Part of an adventure is dealing with events as they happen. Trying to prevent all events would take away most of the fun of a trip for me. YMMV Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: fw189uhu Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 11:16 PM To: mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? I'm putting together a comprehensive first aid kit for local (not long-distance) riding since the military IFAKs I usually carry are not really specialized for motorcycling (for example, I don't really expect to get shot while riding around the home area). Couldn't find much specifically about this subject previously posted on this group. My goal is to obtain a non-huge first aid kit that will cover the most common local ride medical problems. Obviously a long-distance kit will have more contents and quantities, but that's a discussion for another day. What do you carry? I put together this list with an eye towards keeping the pouch size relatively small. If the kit will fit into a standard military IFAK pouch, all the better. I left "cell phone" and "water" off the list, but they're obviously important emergency items. What off-the-shelf kit can you recommend as a starting place? - Medications (travel size or sample packets) o Anti-diarrhea tablets o Anti-acid tablets (if you need them) o Antihistamine tablets o Aspirin (325 mg) o Tylenol (for those who can't take aspirin) o Motrin 500 (Ranger Candy) o Preparation H (if you need it; thank God I don't) o Emergency prescription meds o Antiseptic/Betadine wipes (3 packets) o Antibiotic ointment (3 packets) o Antimicrobial hand cleaner (small bottle or 4 packets) o Burn cream or jel/aloe vera o Eye drops - Bandages o Triangular bandage (do-rag) o Ace bandage o Band-aids (various sizes) o Knuckle & fingertip band-aids (2 each) o Large 2x4 or 4x4 band-aids (2) o Steri-Strips (butterfly sutures) (4) o Cohesive wrap 2"x75' o Large sterile gauze pads (6) - Gear o Trauma shears, heavy-duty (EMT shears) o Tweezers o Irrigation syringe o Large safety pins o Latex gloves (2 pr) o Q-tips o CPR mask o Compact first aid book o Emergency Mylar thermal blanket o Glow snap stick (emergency signaling) o Large heavy duty Zip-Loc bag (trash removal) o 4x4 gauze pads (3) o 4x4 Telfa pads (no-stick) o Small compression bandage (military) o 1" paper surgical tape (30') - Instant cold pack (1) - Tourniquet (military style Combat Application Tourniquet) - SAM splint 18" or air splint - Moleskin - Sunburn lotion - Chapstick - Electrolyte mix - Saline vials (not sure about this; drinking water seems OK to me) Most of this stuff is fairly small in the quantities indicated, but is more than will fit into a standard IFAK pouch. Of course the CAT tourniquet comes in its own separate pouch. I like the idea of including oral airways, but multiple sizes are needed and I'm not sure they're worth the space. What do you take? TIA. Digger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RobertWichert]

I would recommend against carrying any medications except the antibiotic ointment, which is useful and not as easy to find. The other stuff gets old, and old doesn't work. If you need any of that stuff, you can go to a store. Nothing magic in that medication list. I used to keep Imodium in my briefcase. Actually, there may still be some in there, somewhere, since I was traveling all over the world, and, well, you know. But now I just buy new for every trip. Same with Dramamine. Butterfly sutures are a great idea. Very useful. Likewise antiseptic wipes. Good idea. Ace bandage is good. It can be used for many problems, including bleeding. Gauze bandage is good too. Lots of big Adhesive Bandages is a good idea. I carry those. I carry tweezers and folding scissors all the time. In my pocket. I keep mine in a fanny pack. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 2/2/2013 11:19 PM, Mike Huber wrote: > Check out these first aid kits from Duluth Trading....I keep a Quikclot Silver pad handy in my top box for bleeding emergencys.... > > http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/mens-workshop/work-safety-gear/first-aid-kits/69138.aspx > > Mike Huber > Carlsbad, NM > > > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: dhk@... > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 06:16:49 +0000 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Local Riding First Aid Kit Contents? > > > > > > I'm putting together a comprehensive first aid kit for local (not long-distance) riding since the military IFAKs I usually carry are not really specialized for motorcycling (for example, I don't really expect to get shot while riding around the home area). Couldn't find much specifically about this subject previously posted on this group. > > My goal is to obtain a non-huge first aid kit that will cover the most common local ride medical problems. Obviously a long-distance kit will have more contents and quantities, but that's a discussion for another day. > > What do you carry? I put together this list with an eye towards keeping the pouch size relatively small. If the kit will fit into a standard military IFAK pouch, all the better. I left "cell phone" and "water" off the list, but they're obviously important emergency items. > > What off-the-shelf kit can you recommend as a starting place? > > - Medications (travel size or sample packets) > o Anti-diarrhea tablets > o Anti-acid tablets (if you need them) > o Antihistamine tablets > o Aspirin (325 mg) > o Tylenol (for those who can't take aspirin) > o Motrin 500 (Ranger Candy) > o Preparation H (if you need it; thank God I don't) > o Emergency prescription meds > o Antiseptic/Betadine wipes (3 packets) > o Antibiotic ointment (3 packets) > o Antimicrobial hand cleaner (small bottle or 4 packets) > o Burn cream or jel/aloe vera > o Eye drops > - Bandages > o Triangular bandage (do-rag) > o Ace bandage > o Band-aids (various sizes) > o Knuckle & fingertip band-aids (2 each) > o Large 2x4 or 4x4 band-aids (2) > o Steri-Strips (butterfly sutures) (4) > o Cohesive wrap 2"x75' > o Large sterile gauze pads (6) > - Gear > o Trauma shears, heavy-duty (EMT shears) > o Tweezers > o Irrigation syringe > o Large safety pins > o Latex gloves (2 pr) > o Q-tips > o CPR mask > o Compact first aid book > o Emergency Mylar thermal blanket > o Glow snap stick (emergency signaling) > o Large heavy duty Zip-Loc bag (trash removal) > o 4x4 gauze pads (3) > o 4x4 Telfa pads (no-stick) > o Small compression bandage (military) > o 1" paper surgical tape (30') > - Instant cold pack (1) > - Tourniquet (military style Combat Application Tourniquet) > - SAM splint 18" or air splint > - Moleskin > - Sunburn lotion > - Chapstick > - Electrolyte mix > - Saline vials (not sure about this; drinking water seems OK to me) > > Most of this stuff is fairly small in the quantities indicated, but is more than will fit into a standard IFAK pouch. Of course the CAT tourniquet comes in its own separate pouch. > > I like the idea of including oral airways, but multiple sizes are needed and I'm not sure they're worth the space. > > What do you take? TIA. > > Digger > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Members Map https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212558560286766214899.0004d0fa9f1732283bb6f&msa=0&ll=38.522384,-109.489746&spn=6.831383,9.624023Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >