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[David Nichols]

I have a hard time believing a gas tank, metal or plastic can explode due to the build up of internal pressure from expanding gasses. The seals (either at the cap or the petcock) would leak before a failure of the tank walls. The OEM tanks have an internal tube that attaches to a hose under the front of the seat. And on my IMS vented cap, there is a check valve that only closes when the fluid pushes it closed, all other times it remains open. Its like a little ball that floats in the liquid. I'm sure the Acerbis has the same arrangement, I have seen photos of a KLR on it's side intentionally to see if the Acerbis cap leaked. it did not. ________________________________ From: Bogdan Swider To: Fred Hink ; David Nichols ; ALFRED ; "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I used to use one way valves. At some point in the past someone posted, on this very list, that it's not a good idea in the summer. Apparently he left his ride out in the sun and his tank exploded. The sun gets super hot at Colorado altitude so I took mine out. I bet that cap works well but I'd still worry about putting a tank bag on it. I do go down once in a while. If gas spilled it sure would be hard to get the smell out don't ask how I know. Also I bet some vapors would escape into the bag. Bogdan From: Fred Hink > Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:09 PM To: David Nichols >, Bogdan Swider >, ALFRED >, "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I believe you are correct sir. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: David Nichols Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:52 AM To: Bogdan Swider ; ALFRED ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I believe the vents are actually under the edges of the cap, someone correct me if I'm wrong. And unless you tip over the vent won't be getting gas on your tank bag. It normally lets air into the tank as the engine uses gas. In fact, there may be a one way check valve so if you tip over it won't allow spillage. [url=http://www.acerbis.com/fuel-tanks.php?idp=586&ids=36&id_categoria=4http://www.acerbis.com/fuel-tanks.php?idp=586&ids=36&id_categoria=4> ________________________________ From: Bogdan Swider mailto:BSwider%40ColoradoCollege.edu> To: David Nichols mailto:david.r.nichols%40sbcglobal.net>; ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Vented cap still won't work with a tank bag - fumes my good man. Don't plan on bringing the bag into the motel room if it's been sitting on a vented cap. Bogdan From: David Nichols mailto:david.r.nichols%40sbcglobal.net> Reply-To: David Nichols mailto:david.r.nichols%40sbcglobal.net> Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:04 AM To: Bogdan Swider mailto:bswider%40coloradocollege.edu>, ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I love my IMS tank, it's the translucent green and I can see the gas level thru the tank walls. Fred sells an Acerbis locking cap that has built in vents without a hose coming out of the top. ________________________________ From: Bogdan Swider mailto:bSwider%40coloradocollege.edu> To: ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.comDSNmailto:_KLR650%40yahoogroups.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I've put 35k miles or so on said tank. I like it much better if you go down. I hated those goofy shrouds. However are you dependent on tank bags ? I am on a light bike it's important to have as much weight as possible forward. The IMS vents with a rubber tube from the gas cap dirt bike style. Not good for putting the tank bag on top. I modified the cap so that the vertical tubing out of the cap and the first few inches when it turns horizontal is metal. Now my Wolfman rests happily. Bogdan From: ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.commaxtork1957@...>> Date: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:53 PM To: "mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.comDSNmailto:_KLR650%40yahoogroups.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.comDSNmailto:_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com>> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Trail riding in the Everglades and slid thru a muddy patch into the back of my buddy's V-Strom. His exhaust took out my gas tank. Thinking of going with the IMS 6.6 gallon plastic replacement from Rocky Mtn. for $247.00. Any experience, ideas, warnings, advice would be appreciated. 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[Bogdan Swider]

You very well may be right, David. Anyone can post anything. I'm not an expert on what explodes and what doesn't. ( Maybe a woman's temper ? ) I sometimes leave my ride in the desert sun so I did not want to play crash dummy. I took out the one way valve. Bogdan From: David Nichols > Reply-To: David Nichols > Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:05 PM To: Bogdan Swider >, Fred Hink >, ALFRED >, "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I have a hard time believing a gas tank, metal or plastic can explode due to the build up of internal pressure from expanding gasses. The seals (either at the cap or the petcock) would leak before a failure of the tank walls. The OEM tanks have an internal tube that attaches to a hose under the front of the seat. And on my IMS vented cap, there is a check valve that only closes when the fluid pushes it closed, all other times it remains open. Its like a little ball that floats in the liquid. I'm sure the Acerbis has the same arrangement, I have seen photos of a KLR on it's side intentionally to see if the Acerbis cap leaked. it did not. ________________________________ From: Bogdan Swider > To: Fred Hink >; David Nichols >; ALFRED >; "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I used to use one way valves. At some point in the past someone posted, on this very list, that it's not a good idea in the summer. Apparently he left his ride out in the sun and his tank exploded. The sun gets super hot at Colorado altitude so I took mine out. I bet that cap works well but I'd still worry about putting a tank bag on it. I do go down once in a while. If gas spilled it sure would be hard to get the smell out don't ask how I know. Also I bet some vapors would escape into the bag. Bogdan From: Fred Hink >> Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:09 PM To: David Nichols >>, Bogdan Swider >>, ALFRED >>, "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>>" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>>> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I believe you are correct sir. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: David Nichols> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:52 AM To: Bogdan Swider> ; ALFRED> ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I believe the vents are actually under the edges of the cap, someone correct me if I'm wrong. And unless you tip over the vent won't be getting gas on your tank bag. It normally lets air into the tank as the engine uses gas. In fact, there may be a one way check valve so if you tip over it won't allow spillage. http://www.acerbis.com/fuel-tanks.php?i ... ategoria=4> ________________________________ From: Bogdan Swider mailto:BSwider%40ColoradoCollege.edu> To: David Nichols mailto:david.r.nichols%40sbcglobal.net>; ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Vented cap still won't work with a tank bag - fumes my good man. Don't plan on bringing the bag into the motel room if it's been sitting on a vented cap. Bogdan From: David Nichols mailto:david.r.nichols%40sbcglobal.net> Reply-To: David Nichols mailto:david.r.nichols%40sbcglobal.net> Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:04 AM To: Bogdan Swider mailto:bswider%40coloradocollege.edu>, ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I love my IMS tank, it's the translucent green and I can see the gas level thru the tank walls. Fred sells an Acerbis locking cap that has built in vents without a hose coming out of the top. ________________________________ From: Bogdan Swider mailto:bSwider%40coloradocollege.edu> To: ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.comDSNmailto:_KLR650%40yahoogroups.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I've put 35k miles or so on said tank. I like it much better if you go down. I hated those goofy shrouds. However are you dependent on tank bags ? I am on a light bike it's important to have as much weight as possible forward. The IMS vents with a rubber tube from the gas cap dirt bike style. Not good for putting the tank bag on top. I modified the cap so that the vertical tubing out of the cap and the first few inches when it turns horizontal is metal. Now my Wolfman rests happily. Bogdan From: ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.commaxtork1957@...>> Date: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:53 PM To: "mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.comDSNmailto:_KLR650%40yahoogroups.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.comDSNmailto:_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com>> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Trail riding in the Everglades and slid thru a muddy patch into the back of my buddy's V-Strom. His exhaust took out my gas tank. Thinking of going with the IMS 6.6 gallon plastic replacement from Rocky Mtn. for $247.00. Any experience, ideas, warnings, advice would be appreciated. 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[Fred Hink]

And knowing you Bodgan when you said I do go down once in a while I figured this thread would be heading in a different direction. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: Bogdan Swider Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:19 PM To: David Nichols ; Fred Hink ; ALFRED ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank You very well may be right, David. Anyone can post anything. I'm not an expert on what explodes and what doesn't. ( Maybe a woman's temper ? ) I sometimes leave my ride in the desert sun so I did not want to play crash dummy. I took out the one way valve. Bogdan From: David Nichols Reply-To: David Nichols Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:05 PM To: Bogdan Swider , Fred Hink , ALFRED , "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I have a hard time believing a gas tank, metal or plastic can explode due to the build up of internal pressure from expanding gasses. The seals (either at the cap or the petcock) would leak before a failure of the tank walls. The OEM tanks have an internal tube that attaches to a hose under the front of the seat. And on my IMS vented cap, there is a check valve that only closes when the fluid pushes it closed, all other times it remains open. Its like a little ball that floats in the liquid. I'm sure the Acerbis has the same arrangement, I have seen photos of a KLR on it's side intentionally to see if the Acerbis cap leaked. it did not. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bogdan Swider To: Fred Hink ; David Nichols ; ALFRED ; "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I used to use one way valves. At some point in the past someone posted, on this very list, that it's not a good idea in the summer. Apparently he left his ride out in the sun and his tank exploded. The sun gets super hot at Colorado altitude so I took mine out. I bet that cap works well but I'd still worry about putting a tank bag on it. I do go down once in a while. If gas spilled it sure would be hard to get the smell out don't ask how I know. Also I bet some vapors would escape into the bag. Bogdan From: Fred Hink > Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:09 PM To: David Nichols >, Bogdan Swider >, ALFRED >, "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I believe you are correct sir. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: David Nichols Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:52 AM To: Bogdan Swider ; ALFRED ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comDSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I believe the vents are actually under the edges of the cap, someone correct me if I'm wrong. And unless you tip over the vent won't be getting gas on your tank bag. It normally lets air into the tank as the engine uses gas. In fact, there may be a one way check valve so if you tip over it won't allow spillage. [url=http://www.acerbis.com/fuel-tanks.php?idp=586&ids=36&id_categoria=4http://www.acerbis.com/fuel-tanks.php?idp=586&ids=36&id_categoria=4> ________________________________ From: Bogdan Swider mailto:BSwider%40ColoradoCollege.edu> To: David Nichols mailto:david.r.nichols%40sbcglobal.net>; ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Vented cap still won't work with a tank bag - fumes my good man. Don't plan on bringing the bag into the motel room if it's been sitting on a vented cap. Bogdan From: David Nichols mailto:david.r.nichols%40sbcglobal.net> Reply-To: David Nichols mailto:david.r.nichols%40sbcglobal.net> Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:04 AM To: Bogdan Swider mailto:bswider%40coloradocollege.edu>, ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I love my IMS tank, it's the translucent green and I can see the gas level thru the tank walls. Fred sells an Acerbis locking cap that has built in vents without a hose coming out of the top. ________________________________ From: Bogdan Swider mailto:bSwider%40coloradocollege.edu> To: ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.comDSNmailto:_KLR650%40yahoogroups.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank I've put 35k miles or so on said tank. I like it much better if you go down. I hated those goofy shrouds. However are you dependent on tank bags ? I am on a light bike it's important to have as much weight as possible forward. The IMS vents with a rubber tube from the gas cap dirt bike style. Not good for putting the tank bag on top. I modified the cap so that the vertical tubing out of the cap and the first few inches when it turns horizontal is metal. Now my Wolfman rests happily. Bogdan From: ALFRED mailto:maxtork1957%40yahoo.commaxtork1957@...>> Date: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:53 PM To: "mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.comDSNmailto:_KLR650%40yahoogroups.commailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.comDSNmailto:_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com>> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Trail riding in the Everglades and slid thru a muddy patch into the back of my buddy's V-Strom. His exhaust took out my gas tank. Thinking of going with the IMS 6.6 gallon plastic replacement from Rocky Mtn. for $247.00. Any experience, ideas, warnings, advice would be appreciated. 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[Jud]

I have read that they fit or can be made to fit, but the real decision is whether to protect your radiator with the HT Nerfs or with the IMS tank. I reasoned that $225 for the tank was cheaper than $284 for the nerfs, with the added bonus of up to another gallon and a half capacity. Using the nerf bars with the IMS tank is gilding the lily, or having your cake and having your pie and still eating them both. Of course, with the Nerfs you have a place to mount your bullwhip and your grappling hooks.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Mike Huber wrote: > > > Will the IMS tank work with the HappyTrails Nerf bars on my 06 ??? > > I like the protectionn they offer and hate to loose it.... > > Mike Huber > Carlsbad NM > > > > > To: david.r.nichols@... > CC: bSwider@...; maxtork1957@...; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: robert@... > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:30:22 -0800 > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank > > > > > > The KLR is a "light bike"????? > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > =============================================== > > On 1/23/2013 9:04 AM, David Nichols wrote: > > > > I love my IMS tank, it's the translucent green and I can see the gas > > level thru the tank walls. Fred sells an Acerbis locking cap that has > > built in vents without a hose coming out of the top. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Bogdan Swider bSwider@... > > > > > To: ALFRED maxtork1957@... > > DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > " DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank > > > > I've put 35k miles or so on said tank. I like it much better if you > > go down. I hated those goofy shrouds. However are you dependent on > > tank bags ? I am on a light bike it's important to have as much > > weight as possible forward. The IMS vents with a rubber tube from the > > gas cap dirt bike style. Not good for putting the tank bag on top. I > > modified the cap so that the vertical tubing out of the cap and the > > first few inches when it turns horizontal is metal. Now my Wolfman > > rests happily. > > > > Bogdan > > > > From: ALFRED maxtork1957@... > > maxtork1957@... > > >> > > Date: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:53 PM > > To: "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > >" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > >> > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank > > > > Trail riding in the Everglades and slid thru a muddy patch into the > > back of my buddy's V-Strom. His exhaust took out my gas tank. Thinking > > of going with the IMS 6.6 gallon plastic replacement from Rocky Mtn. > > for $247.00. Any experience, ideas, warnings, advice would be appreciated. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Members Map > > https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212558560286766214899.0004d0fa9f1732283bb6f&msa=0&ll=38.522384,-109.489746&spn=6.831383,9.624023Yahoo! > > Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[ALFRED ELFMAN]

Still on the tank question and maybe I missed something in an earlier thread......I think the tank came with "California" instructions that calls for using the supplied "T" and vent tubes. I ordered an Acerbis vented cap for the tank so do I disregard the supplied tubes and tee and simply attach the lines to the petcock as before? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Alfred]

Think I know more than I do sometimes, I disregarded the instructions with the tank (re: venting) and just reattached the fuel and vacuum line to the petcock, added fuel and kept my fingers crossed. The bike fired up and ran ok for about a minute then dies. Hard to start again and when it does it runs rough then dies. Is this a venting issue?

[Ron Haraseth]

Gas can't flow out if air can't get in. The tank needs a vent to air. The petcock vacuum line only operates the petcock valve (only opens fuel flow when there is engine vacuum - engine running. To test try running with the tank cap removed. If it still runs bad, look elsewhere. Ron -----Original Message----- From: ALFRED Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:38 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Think I know more than I do sometimes, I disregarded the instructions with the tank (re: venting) and just reattached the fuel and vacuum line to the petcock, added fuel and kept my fingers crossed. The bike fired up and ran ok for about a minute then dies. Hard to start again and when it does it runs rough then dies. Is this a venting issue? ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Members Map https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212558560286766214899.0004d0fa9f1732283bb6f&msa=0&ll=38.522384,-109.489746&spn=6.831383,9.624023Yahoo! Groups Links

[mark ward]

Does,t the IMS tank require A VENTED cap??

--- On Tue, 1/29/13, Ron Haraseth wrote: From: Ron Haraseth Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 6:32 PM Gas can't flow out if air can't get in. The tank needs a vent to air. The petcock vacuum line only operates the petcock valve (only opens fuel flow when there is engine vacuum - engine running. To test try running with the tank cap removed. If it still runs bad, look elsewhere. Ron -----Original Message----- From: ALFRED Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:38 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Think I know more than I do sometimes, I disregarded the instructions with the tank (re: venting) and just reattached the fuel and vacuum line to the petcock, added fuel and kept my fingers crossed. The bike fired up and ran ok for about a minute then dies. Hard to start again and when it does it runs rough then dies. Is this a venting issue? ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Members Map https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212558560286766214899.0004d0fa9f1732283bb6f&msa=0&ll=38.522384,-109.489746&spn=6.831383,9.624023Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Fred Hink]

Did you flush out your new tank? Most times there is manufacturing debris left inside the tank that can foul your float valve in the carb. Does your bike act like it is too lean or too rich? If it is too rich it is most likely something in the float valve. You ll need to remove your card and float to flush out this valve. If your bike is acting too lean, then there may be a blockage in the fuel petcock not letting enough fuel into the carb. Check your fuel flow from the petcock to see if you have a good flow of fuel. I have seen all sorts of junk inside new gas tanks and you may need an inline fuel filter if you don t already have one. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: ALFRED Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:38 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Think I know more than I do sometimes, I disregarded the instructions with the tank (re: venting) and just reattached the fuel and vacuum line to the petcock, added fuel and kept my fingers crossed. The bike fired up and ran ok for about a minute then dies. Hard to start again and when it does it runs rough then dies. Is this a venting issue? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Fred Hink]

All gas caps are vented in one way or the other. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: mark ward Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:13 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com ; Ron Haraseth Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Does,t the IMS tank require A VENTED cap??

--- On Tue, 1/29/13, Ron Haraseth mailto:rharaseth%40hotmail.com> wrote: From: Ron Haraseth mailto:rharaseth%40hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank To: mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 6:32 PM Gas can't flow out if air can't get in. The tank needs a vent to air. The petcock vacuum line only operates the petcock valve (only opens fuel flow when there is engine vacuum - engine running. To test try running with the tank cap removed. If it still runs bad, look elsewhere. Ron -----Original Message----- From: ALFRED Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:38 AM To: mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] IMS Fuel Tank Think I know more than I do sometimes, I disregarded the instructions with the tank (re: venting) and just reattached the fuel and vacuum line to the petcock, added fuel and kept my fingers crossed. The bike fired up and ran ok for about a minute then dies. Hard to start again and when it does it runs rough then dies. Is this a venting issue? ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Members Map https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212558560286766214899.0004d0fa9f1732283bb6f&msa=0&ll=38.522384,-109.489746&spn=6.831383,9.624023Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]