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[Fred Hink]

Peter Egan is a great and interesting writer but he has struck out with his article about Adventure-Touring bikes. http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/22/why-adventure-touring-bikes-are-so-popular/ He mentions most things about Adventure-Touring on motorcycles and included references to the Long Way Round guys but nothing at all about the venerable KLR650. booo Mr. Egan has obviously drank the BMW & KTM Koolaid. Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Kevin Powers]

He mentions a Copper Canyon trip in that article. If I remember right, they ended up putting the bikes in the back of a truck to get them to Urique after a "comedy of errors" type of day. The KLR community will do just fine without his support. Kevin

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Fred Hink wrote: > ** > > > Peter Egan is a great and interesting writer but he has struck out with > his article about Adventure-Touring bikes. > > http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/22/why-adventure-touring-bikes-are-so-popular/ > He mentions most things about Adventure-Touring on motorcycles and > included references to the Long Way Round guys but nothing at all about the > venerable KLR650. booo > Mr. Egan has obviously drank the BMW & KTM Koolaid. > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Kevin Powers Woodbury, MN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[David Nichols]

This article made me laugh: "Adventure-Touring Comparison The Asphalt Adventurers" http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/23/adventure-touring-bike-comparison-review/ But at least they are being honest about it and not trying to pretend the bikes are something they are not. I abandoned the mainstream magazines years ago when I realized they were mainly press releases about what's cool and why you need to trade your bike in for the newer, faster model with the decals that are in style this year. There are some better options for bike magazines like Motorcycle Consumer News, Adventure Rider Magazine and of course Dual Sport News. ________________________________ From: Kevin Powers To: Fred Hink Cc: KLR List DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Cycle World missed the boat He mentions a Copper Canyon trip in that article. If I remember right, they ended up putting the bikes in the back of a truck to get them to Urique after a "comedy of errors" type of day. The KLR community will do just fine without his support. Kevin

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Fred Hink wrote: > ** > > > Peter Egan is a great and interesting writer but he has struck out with > his article about Adventure-Touring bikes. > > http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/22/why-adventure-touring-bikes-are-so-popular/ > He mentions most things about Adventure-Touring on motorcycles and > included references to the Long Way Round guys but nothing at all about the > venerable KLR650. booo > Mr. Egan has obviously drank the BMW & KTM Koolaid. > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Kevin Powers Woodbury, MN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Tim Pruitt]

He definitely missed the KLR, but isn't he mostly talking about riding his trusty DR650 Suzuki? No so far from our beloved KLR and a long way from a BMW or KTM. Maybe I need to go read it again From: Fred Hink To: KLR List DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:09 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Cycle World missed the boat Peter Egan is a great and interesting writer but he has struck out with his article about Adventure-Touring bikes. http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/22/why-adventure-touring-bikes-are-so-popular/ He mentions most things about Adventure-Touring on motorcycles and included references to the Long Way Round guys but nothing at all about the venerable KLR650. booo Mr. Egan has obviously drank the BMW & KTM Koolaid. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

While the BMW twin is SMOOOTH. The KTM looks good and has a few nice designs, like a place to hang your chain when the tire is off etc. AND fuses RIGHT THERE is to get at at any time. battery down LOW for center of Gravity THEY BOTH HAVE COMPUTORS, So you can NOT bump start them when you are way out somewhere and left the key on (OOOPS) Besides NOT easy to work on in the field etc. The KTM 990 takes 1.5 HOURS YES HOURS to change the oil. (PER DEALER) So good luck taking long EXPLORING TRIPS. I'll stick with my TRUSTY KLR650

--- On Sat, 9/1/12, Tim Pruitt wrote: From: Tim Pruitt Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Cycle World missed the boat To: "Fred Hink" , "KLR List" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, September 1, 2012, 12:31 AM He definitely missed the KLR, but isn't he mostly talking about riding his trusty DR650 Suzuki? No so far from our beloved KLR and a long way from a BMW or KTM. Maybe I need to go read it again From: Fred Hink To: KLR List DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:09 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Cycle World missed the boat Peter Egan is a great and interesting writer but he has struck out with his article about Adventure-Touring bikes. http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/22/why-adventure-touring-bikes-are-so-popular/ He mentions most things about Adventure-Touring on motorcycles and included references to the Long Way Round guys but nothing at all about the venerable KLR650. booo Mr. Egan has obviously drank the BMW & KTM Koolaid. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[eddie mauri]

I have not yet read the article, but, if it mentions Long Way Round, I am inclined not to read it at all. I got the Long Way Round series from Netflix, and the first installment intrigued me........ then, they showed the "support" equipment, lets see..... several vehicles loaded down with supplies, a factory mechanic, enough spare parts to build a bike from scratch, a doctor, a planner, interpreters, etc, etc., etc. Where is the challenge in that? Read Lois Pryce's book, "Lois on the Loose", she rode her motorbike from Alaska to Ushuaia solo, with no support network. Then Ms. Pryce did it again, this time from England to South Africa, read "Red Take and White Knuckles". Eddie M. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[j copel]

The were not on a adventure ride, they were making a milti-million dollar TV show. The money was not theirs, insured by Loyds of London. Much of the things that people complain about were required by the people protecting their investment. The Adv. ride was a fun business ride and it was run like a well planed business venture. Most of us would take the same ride if someone else was paying for it. Ride safe, change the gas often. jerry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Monty]

I find adventure riding is so many different things depending on who you ask. To a rider who has a vintage bike it might mean something simple as a ride into town couple miles away. To a KLR junkie it could be a trek across the Rockies or Sierra off road. But to the point - If there's a better do it all motorcycle than the KLR I've yet to see it. There's all kinds of great motorcycles but this simple thumper should be considered one of the most versatile of the bunch IMHO. Haven't read the Egan piece yet but have always enjoyed his writing. Adventure riding seems to be such a subjective topic. Don't you think? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[James Douglas]

IMHO, the KLR is missed as the big $$ are with the KTM, BMW's and such. More $$ for the dealership. The typical buyers of these high dollar dual-sports are guy's in their 50's, successful (read have money to burn) and want to re-capture the excitement of riding a motorcycle that looks like their old Yamama YZ-125 at 16 years old. They have the cash to spend and they do it. I can find these bikes, big BMW GS/KTM Adventure for sale all the time with low milage on them as, I am figuring they got bored or the wife put the chastity belt on while it's in the garage. Big expensive items get the fame while the KLR, at $5000 does not match their lifestyle. Just my opinion. I actually would love to have one of the new BMW GS-800 as it's the perfect size for both road and street, but the price...................so I will stick to the inexpensive to purchase/maintain! Jim

> The were not on a adventure ride, they were making a milti-million > dollar TV show. The money was not theirs, insured by Loyds of London. > Much of the things that people complain about were required by the > people protecting their investment. The Adv. ride was a fun business > ride and it was run like a well planed business venture. Most of us > would take the same ride if someone else was paying for it. > > Ride safe, change the gas often. jerry > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

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[Jud]

I'm not seeing the reply I wrote yesterday, so either I just sent it to Fred, or I forgot to post it altogether. I read the piece, and can't fault him for failing to mention the KLR. He also failed to say a word about the XR650L, the DR250SE, the DRZ400S (and I know Peter has adventure toured on one of those), the Husky 610 and any of the KTM dual sport/adventure singles (like my much beloved 640 Adventure) He wrote a column, as he does every month. He is limited to one page. He gets to make a couple of points, and he usually does it very well. I think his point about the big adventure bikes is that they are like a Cadillac Escalade, plenty of pimp presence, but just as you would be foolish to go offroading on your chrome twenties, you would be unwise to take your 1150 GS past Batopilas. Nor can I fault him on his choice to take the DR650 when he leaves his big whale of a bike at home. One, the DR is the bike he has. Two, the DR is the bike I took to Mexico when I chose to leave my big whale of a KLR at home. The difference, of course, is that a lot of guys will take the KLR when they leave the big whale at home. Egan was talking more about the big whales, not the bikes you take to Mexico in their stead. The other point he left out, is that there are guys who can take the big KTMs through the canyons. They aren't necessarily any taller than Egan (although they are as lot taller than I), but they are better riders, just as the guys who can take their KLRs through the canyons are better riders than I am.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote: > > Peter Egan is a great and interesting writer but he has struck out with his article about Adventure-Touring bikes. > http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/22/why-adventure-touring-bikes-are-so-popular/ > He mentions most things about Adventure-Touring on motorcycles and included references to the Long Way Round guys but nothing at all about the venerable KLR650. booo > Mr. Egan has obviously drank the BMW & KTM Koolaid. > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >