added windshield hardware to the parts compatibility list

[KLR650Pilot@aol.com]

In a message dated 8/27/01 9:51:11 PM Central Daylight Time, DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com writes: > Marc, Be careful with that headlight modulation thing. There are a lot of people, many Europeans, that would regard the flashing action of your headlight as an invitation to go ahead and turn in front of you. This particular subject was discussed several years ago and it was determined that in some country's the flashing of the high beam meant "go ahead." Don't want to see you down on the ground, my friend, so you be careful with that headlight contraption. Jim KLR650Pilot

[Scott Adams]

Note that a headlight modulator is not "flashing" as it never goes off. This is a case where feds trump state law and there is a CFR that prohibits a state from making illegal a properly operating modulator. Jim is right about flashing lights - but a modulator is not one. -Scott Scott C. Adams Scott@... or www.attorneyadams.com 20565 S.W. Tualatin Valley Hwy., #301, Aloha, Oregon 97006 (503) 324-0111 or fax (503) 324-1127 From: "J. Gregory"

> might also be aware that in some states it is illegal to drive with a > flashing light unless you are a emergency vehicle or a licensed escort. > Jim Arkansas >

[Bill Pratt]

Not true...Modulators are legal in all 50 states. See the following statements from two manufactures: Signal Dynamics Corporations has just released their totally new and unique "Diamond Star Headlight Modular"! With Daylight Running Lights becoming standard equipment on new cars, motorcycle headlights are becoming less conspicuous. The U.S. Department of Transportation, after in-depth studies has determined one of the best ways to help motorcycles be more noticeable is to install and use a headlight modulator. The "Diamond Star" complies with, and exceeds U.S. DOT standards, and because headlight modulators are now authorized by federal law, they are legal in all 50 states. The Diamond Star is totally high tech in appearance and functionality. With the Diamond Star installed, your headlight's high beam (during ambient daylight conditions) will automatically modulate at 240 cycles per minute. It also has a "Heads Up Traffic Alert" feature. This modulates the headlight for 3.5 seconds at night or when low beam is selected with a simple bump of the horn button. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For those needing information about the United States Federal Regulations A copy of these standards may be obtained by writing the d.o.t. in Washington, D.C. or clicking on the following title http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/cfr-retrieve.html#page1 (enter 49 in the title box, 571 in the part box, 108 in the section box and then click the Retrieve button) (when you get to the page scroll down to paragraph S7.9.4) FMVSS 108 (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) (49 CFR Part 571.108 S7.9.4) allows motorcycle headlight modulations systems all 50 states provided they comply with the standards set forth in this section. Title 49 USC 30103(b1) (US Codes) prohibits any state from forbidding a system that conforms to FMVSS 108. Canada prescribes the same standards as the US and allow modulators meeting these standards, these can be viewed by clicking on the following title http://www.tc.gc.ca/securiteroutiere/mvstm%5Ftsd/tsd/1080%2Dm.htm#_Toc S5.6 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I personally use a dual modulator on my ST1100 and will be adding one to my KLR when time permits. They are best for cruising down the highway. You can turn them on or off as desired. They all turn off automatically when it gets dark. I hope this helps...I don't work for any of these companies. Bill Pratt, Mill Creek, WA STOC #117, '97 ST1100-ABS, '97 KLR-650 http://www.billpratt.com "No matter where you go...there you are!"

----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Gregory" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: Fw: [DSN_klr650] Headlight Modulator > > > might also be aware that in some states it is illegal to drive with a > flashing light unless you are a emergency vehicle or a licensed escort. > Jim Arkansas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Headlight Modulator > > > > In a message dated 8/27/01 9:51:11 PM Central Daylight Time, > > DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com writes: > > > > > canon. It works really well. I have had several would-be left > > turners blindly (sic) start their turn and then stomp on the brakes > > when I flicked on the headlight modulator. >> > > > > Marc, > > > > Be careful with that headlight modulation thing. There are a lot of > people, > > many Europeans, that would regard the flashing action of your headlight as > an > > invitation to go ahead and turn in front of you. This particular subject > was > > discussed several years ago and it was determined that in some country's > the > > flashing of the high beam meant "go ahead." Don't want to see you down on > the > > ground, my friend, so you be careful with that headlight contraption. > > > > Jim > > KLR650Pilot > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[Jimmy James]

Roger that..... If you're going to use a modulator, leave it on all the time. James in SC.

> > Marc, > > Be careful with that headlight modulation thing. There are a lot of

people,

> many Europeans, that would regard the flashing action of your headlight as

an

> invitation to go ahead and turn in front of you. This particular subject

was

> discussed several years ago and it was determined that in some country's

the

> flashing of the high beam meant "go ahead." Don't want to see you down on

the

> ground, my friend, so you be careful with that headlight contraption. >

[Marc Illsley Clarke]

Jim, The general consensus among MSF instructors and cops I have talked with is that a single flash of the headlights can be misinterpreted as a signal to proceed, given that American truckers use a flash oc the headlights to signal that it is OK to pull back into the lane ahead of them. I did not and do not flash my headlight for just this reason. The Kisan unit continuously modulates the bright bcam at 4 cycles per second. The MSF specifically recommends continuous headlight modulators to improve a motorcyclist's visibility. I have never seen or heard a suggestion that a continuous 4 Hertz modulation does anything other than get drivers' attention. Police cars, fire trucks, and many other types of public safety vehicles use continuously modulated lights in the 2 Hertz to 4 Hertz frequency range as attention-getters, both in Europe and in the USA.. Nowhere in the USA is there a convention that a rapidly and continuously modulated light of any color means "proceed". -- Marc, KLR650 A12, Loveland, Colorado, USA KLR650Pilot@... wrote: __________

>In a message dated 8/27/01 9:51:11 PM Central Daylight Time, >DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com writes: > > canon. It works really well. I have had several would-be left > turners blindly (sic) start their turn and then stomp on the brakes > when I flicked on the headlight modulator. >> > >Marc, > >Be careful with that headlight modulation thing. There are a lot of people, >many Europeans, that would regard the flashing action of your headlight as an >invitation to go ahead and turn in front of you. This particular subject was >discussed several years ago and it was determined that in some country's the >flashing of the high beam meant "go ahead." Don't want to see you down on the >ground, my friend, so you be careful with that headlight contraption. > >Jim >KLR650Pilot > >Checkout Dual Sport News at >http://www.dualsportnews.com >Be part of the Adventure! > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Guest]

Speed reading through the posts a while back someone recommended the product from Kisan Technologies Inc. I am this close to ordering the P115W-S for my A-15 and wanted to double check the recommendation and question the intallation and performance. It appears to be around a C-note but IMO well worth it if it works. I often will slap the high beam when I spy drivers ahead who may be thinking of pulling into my path. With the modulator on the high beam this effect will be dramatic. One step short of launching the wire guided rocket to remove the obstuction if the as#*ole decides to pull out, still looking for this mod though. --Jim

[Thor Lancelot Simon]

On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 05:41:53PM -0000, Jim wrote:

> Speed reading through the posts a while back someone recommended the > product from Kisan Technologies Inc. I am this close to ordering the > P115W-S for my A-15 and wanted to double check the recommendation and > question the intallation and performance. It appears to be around a > C-note but IMO well worth it if it works. I often will slap the high > beam when I spy drivers ahead who may be thinking of pulling into my > path. With the modulator on the high beam this effect will be > dramatic. One step short of launching the wire guided rocket to > remove the obstuction if the as#*ole decides to pull out, still > looking for this mod though.

I had one of these and I can't say I was happy with it -- no matter what I did (including gluing it with a dab of RTV) it eventually shook off the back of my headlight bulb eventually arcing enough to destroy itself. It's designed to "fail safe" but if it shakes loose from the bulb obviously you won't get any light -- not good when riding at night! I would look in to the Kisan or DiamondStar wire-in modulators. The no-wiring style Kisan is very clever and probably works well on some bikes but it does not seem well suited to the KLR. RideSafer sells several brands and models of headlight modulators and they're nice folks to deal with. Based on conversations I had with them at the time I don't think they're recommending the P115W-S for dual-sport bikes any more; they suggested a DiamondStar modulator to me. I am very satisfied with the Kisan _tail light_ modulator I got from them at the same time as the headlight modulator. It uses a replaceable halogen bulb that is a lot brighter than stock but doesn't draw a lot of power, and it seems effective at keeping cars a bit further off my butt when braking in traffic. Thor

[George Basinet]

Jim, good morning. I had a headlight moderator on a Gold Wing and later on a BMW. Although a few drivers complimenting me on it. Most seemed irritated by it, especially if I was following them. A few, usually orientals, for some reason didn't understand the flashing light and actually pulled off the road. This doesn't make for good relationship with the public. I finally took it off. Does it work? YES! I bought it about 10-15 years ago. It wasn't a Kisan nor was it expensive. Maybe $40.00. George Escondido, CA Jim wrote:

>Speed reading through the posts a while back someone recommended the >product from Kisan Technologies Inc. I am this close to ordering the >P115W-S for my A-15 and wanted to double check the recommendation and >question the intallation and performance. It appears to be around a >C-note but IMO well worth it if it works. I often will slap the high >beam when I spy drivers ahead who may be thinking of pulling into my >path. With the modulator on the high beam this effect will be >dramatic. One step short of launching the wire guided rocket to >remove the obstuction if the as#*ole decides to pull out, still >looking for this mod though. >--Jim > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > >

[Guest]

I put one on my Strom a few months back, and I think it helps significantly. Other drivers seem to notice and watch me more than before. I do turn it off when I'm right behind another vehicle at a stop light. Jett, A15/Strom AZ --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim " wrote:

> Speed reading through the posts a while back someone recommended the > product from Kisan Technologies Inc. I am this close to ordering

the

> P115W-S for my A-15 and wanted to double check the recommendation

and

[Conall O'Brien]

>From: Thor Lancelot Simon >Reply-To: tls@... >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >CC: mah78@... >Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Headlight modulator >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:59:04 -0500 > >On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 05:41:53PM -0000, Jim wrote: > > Speed reading through the posts a while back someone recommended the > > product from Kisan Technologies Inc. I am this close to ordering the > > P115W-S for my A-15 and wanted to double check the recommendation and > > question the intallation and performance. It appears to be around a > > C-note but IMO well worth it if it works. I often will slap the high > > beam when I spy drivers ahead who may be thinking of pulling into my > > path. With the modulator on the high beam this effect will be > > dramatic. One step short of launching the wire guided rocket to > > remove the obstuction if the as#*ole decides to pull out, still > > looking for this mod though. > >I had one of these and I can't say I was happy with it -- no matter >what I did (including gluing it with a dab of RTV) it eventually shook >off the back of my headlight bulb eventually arcing enough to destroy >itself. It's designed to "fail safe" but if it shakes loose from the >bulb obviously you won't get any light -- not good when riding at >night! > >I would look in to the Kisan or DiamondStar wire-in modulators. The >no-wiring style Kisan is very clever and probably works well on some >bikes but it does not seem well suited to the KLR. > >RideSafer sells several brands and models of headlight modulators and >they're nice folks to deal with. Based on conversations I had with >them at the time I don't think they're recommending the P115W-S for >dual-sport bikes any more; they suggested a DiamondStar modulator to >me. > >I am very satisfied with the Kisan _tail light_ modulator I got from >them at the same time as the headlight modulator. It uses a replaceable >halogen bulb that is a lot brighter than stock but doesn't draw a lot >of power, and it seems effective at keeping cars a bit further off my >butt when braking in traffic. > >Thor

I started looking for a way to be more visible after being blocked by a car doing a u-turn on a narrow residential street and bashing up myself. My first 60W Kisan headlight modulator was the wire-in type. I wired it in with molex connectors for easy removal if need be, cause I reasoned the wiring was not failsafe with use of awkward connector terminals. It melted down with a 60w light, but I was local to Kisan, so drove down there for a free upgrade. I used the newer hi-wattage one ( also wired-in) for a couple of more years. I still have it, but bought the newer flat pack model that just plugs in, that they sell now. I love it, it's fittin' well enough for me, but it's a tight fit behind there and if you go full lock to lock on the handlebars you barely have enough room for everything to clear. You could call it the Elden Carl model because I thought they were so cool, i gave Elden one for his street KLR. Well he gave it back to me saying he didn't like it 'cause it didn't fit. But I like it and feel it has saved me, but you can't get overconfident. If Kisan will let you return it due to fitment problems, I'd say go for it. Just my $0.02. Would you like pesos or Euros? Conall _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail