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[T2M]

When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to tighten it up. Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong? After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer. Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR. For what it is worth.

[RobertWichert]

Duh. That's where it is, for sure. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 5/14/2012 8:09 AM, T2M wrote: > > When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he > went to > tighten it up. > > Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong? > > After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off > and on > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly > longer. > > Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR. > > For what it is worth. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[oldwing@cox.net]

This is more or less my next step. Just want to try one more magnet that someone suggested and then will pull the cover. I'm slow so it will take me longer then 5 min. Bill ---- T2M wrote:

> When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to > tighten it up. > > Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong? > > After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer. > > Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR. > > For what it is worth. >

-- Bill Lewis Roanoke, Virginia Professor of Motorcycleology 2004 R1150RT 1990 R100RT 2002 KLR Expect The Unexpected

[oldwing@cox.net]

Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs. Pulled the left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the case. Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and botton it all back up again. Told you I was slow. Thanks for all the suggestions. Bill ---- T2M wrote:

> When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to > tighten it up. > > Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong? > > After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer. > > Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR. > > For what it is worth. >

-- Bill Lewis Roanoke, Virginia Professor of Motorcycleology 2004 R1150RT 1990 R100RT 2002 KLR Expect The Unexpected

[Glenn Sturley]

Hi Bill, I have followed this post and was very happy to see the outcome. Nothing worse than dropping bits inside the motor! Whilst reading this I had a thought that in future when working on motors I will wrap a few layers of insulating tape around the driver and socket hence alleviating any dropped bits. I will also stuff rags in holes! Well done on retrieving the wayward device. Regards Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: oldwing@... To: T2M ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:52 AM Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs. Pulled the left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the case. Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and botton it all back up again. Told you I was slow. Thanks for all the suggestions. Bill ---- T2M wrote: > When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to > tighten it up. > > Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong? > > After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer. > > Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR. > > For what it is worth. > -- Bill Lewis Roanoke, Virginia Professor of Motorcycleology 2004 R1150RT 1990 R100RT 2002 KLR Expect The Unexpected No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/4999 - Release Date: 05/14/12 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

On Wed, 16 May 2012 09:23:26 +1000 "Glenn Sturley" writes:

> Hi Bill, > I have followed this post and was very happy to see the outcome. > Nothing worse than dropping bits inside the motor! > Whilst reading this I had a thought that in future when working on > motors I will wrap a few layers of insulating tape around the driver > and socket hence alleviating any dropped bits. I will also stuff > rags in holes! > Well done on retrieving the wayward device. > > Regards > Glenn

<><><><><><> <><><><><><> Glenn, Those are some good ideas. I also put a note on the rotor bolt hole (little cover installed) reminding me to install the cam chain tensioner before rotating the engine. It's not a bad idea to also note there may be rags in the engine on that same note and on the valve cover. Nothing like sucking a rag deeper into the engine or putting the cover on over a rag or two. : ) Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fb2ee5eae36f5e969st05vuc

[T2M]

Dang. I should have mentioned that. First thing the nephew did after I got the socket out, no prodding from me. Always have duct tape with you. For Bill, Welcome to the club of true mechanics. Those able to fix their own mistakes. After you have do various things a few times it gets quicker. I still remember the oil change on a 1978 used GS-750. It took me all day. Sweating everything the whole time. Read the manual three times perform the step, read the manual ... . Now who needs to drain the oil to take the left side cover off a KLR. Just lean it to the right against something. Though being slow and careful keeps the messes down sometimes. Or at least so I have been told I would never get in too much of a hurry. Congratulations. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Sturley Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:23 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket Hi Bill, I have followed this post and was very happy to see the outcome. Nothing worse than dropping bits inside the motor! Whilst reading this I had a thought that in future when working on motors I will wrap a few layers of insulating tape around the driver and socket hence alleviating any dropped bits. I will also stuff rags in holes! Well done on retrieving the wayward device. Regards Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: oldwing@... To: T2M ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:52 AM Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs. Pulled the left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the case. Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and botton it all back up again. Told you I was slow. Thanks for all the suggestions. Bill ---- T2M wrote: > When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to > tighten it up. > > Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong? > > After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer. > > Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR. > > For what it is worth. > -- Bill Lewis Roanoke, Virginia Professor of Motorcycleology 2004 R1150RT 1990 R100RT 2002 KLR Expect The Unexpected No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/4999 - Release Date: 05/14/12 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links

[Craig Kahler]

Bill, In hind sight, did you see an easer way you could have gotten that socket out? Craig ________________________________ From: Glenn Sturley To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket Hi Bill, I have followed this post and was very happy to see the outcome. Nothing worse than dropping bits inside the motor! Whilst reading this I had a thought that in future when working on motors I will wrap a few layers of insulating tape around the driver and socket hence alleviating any dropped bits. I will also stuff rags in holes! Well done on retrieving the wayward device. Regards Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: oldwing@... To: T2M ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:52 AM Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Dropped socket Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs. Pulled the left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the case. Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and botton it all back up again. Told you I was slow. Thanks for all the suggestions. Bill ---- T2M wrote: > When I was teaching one of my nephews the basics of motorcycle > maintenance it happened to him while he was reinstalling the top chain > guide. The silly 8mm socket fell off the 1/4 inch extension when he went to > tighten it up. > > Silly me had gone in the house for a drink of water. What can go wrong? > > After pitching a fit for ten minutes. I pulled the engine side cover off > and there _it_ was quite firmly stuck to the magnet on the rotor. Off and on > for the side cover less than 5 minutes. After getting another 8mm socket > out. Though if you have an aftermarket skid plate it may be slightly longer. > > Don't make it rocket science, it's a KLR. > > For what it is worth. > -- Bill Lewis Roanoke, Virginia Professor of Motorcycleology 2004 R1150RT 1990 R100RT 2002 KLR Expect The Unexpected No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2171 / Virus Database: 2425/4999 - Release Date: 05/14/12 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

> > Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs. Pulled the left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the case. Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and botton it all back up again. Told you I was slow. > > Thanks for all the suggestions. > Bill

Hmmm. Are you sure you only dropped just one? Or did you find the socket the PO dropped? revmaaatin.

[RobertWichert]

You are ONE SICK PUPPY Robert P Wichert, P.Eng LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ================================================================================

On 5/15/2012 9:17 PM, revmaaatin wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , wrote: > > > > Well, the socket is back in the toolbox where it belongs. Pulled the > left side cover and the rotor and it was laying in the bottum of the > case. Took me 2.5 hours to drain the oil, pull the cover and rotor and > botton it all back up again. Told you I was slow. > > > > Thanks for all the suggestions. > > Bill > > Hmmm. > Are you sure you only dropped just one? > Or did you find the socket the PO dropped? > revmaaatin. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]