(fred h.) clutch part?

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Fred Hink
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d*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel

Post by Fred Hink » Mon May 07, 2012 11:23 am

How about one of these LED flashlights with a telescoping magnet on it? http://www.bikemaster.com/tele_mag_light.html Have you checked your rotor to see if your part might be stuck to one of the magnets on the rotor? Most of the time when a wayward part is not stuck to the rotor or magnetic drain plug, it will work it s way to the oil pickup screen on the right side of the motor. Be sure to get this socket out of there as the moving parts of your engine will surely self destruct if they come in contact with it. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: oldwing@... Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:41 PM Cc: KLR650 list Subject: [DSN_KLR650] D*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel I can't be the 1st person to do this. Any suggestions on getting it out? It was inbetween the back and front of the chain but with my efforts to retreive it, it has disappeared. I have tried a couple of magnets on a stick but no luck. What now? Is there any access to the bottom of the abyss? Thanks for any suggestions. -- Bill Lewis Roanoke, Virginia Professor of Motorcycleology 2004 R1150RT 1990 R100RT 2002 KLR Expect The Unexpected [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Craig Kahler
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d*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel

Post by Craig Kahler » Mon May 07, 2012 5:36 pm

I would try with magnets again. stick one down the top where the socket fell and one through the drain plug hole. With the magnets in there ,tip the bike side to side. Elivate the front of the bike then the back. Try to get that socket rolling around in there until it comes in contact a the magnet. As a last resort, before tearing into the engine, flip the bike upside down. Craig ________________________________ From: CY To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: D*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel I dropped a woodruff key down there on my2001. Still there and running fine. Just leave the socket there. It is probably too big to get stuck in anything.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > I can't be the 1st person to do this. Any suggestions on getting it out? It was inbetween the back and front of the chain but with my efforts to retreive it, it has disappeared. I have tried a couple of magnets on a stick but no luck. What now? Is there any access to the bottom of the abyss? Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > Bill Lewis > Roanoke, Virginia > Professor of Motorcycleology > > 2004 R1150RT > 1990 R100RT > 2002 KLR > > Expect The Unexpected > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

k650@verizon.net
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d*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel

Post by k650@verizon.net » Mon May 07, 2012 5:51 pm

Make sure you drain the oil before you flip the bike upside down or else you will end up covered in oil when you lift it over your head and shake it. Walt -----Original Message----- I would try with magnets again. stick one down the top where the socket fell and one through the drain plug hole. With the magnets in there ,tip the bike side to side. Elivate the front of the bike then the back. Try to get that socket rolling around in there until it comes in contact a the magnet. As a last resort, before tearing into the engine, flip the bike upside down. Craig

k650@verizon.net
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d*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel

Post by k650@verizon.net » Mon May 07, 2012 6:00 pm

Also don't look up or the socket may take your eye out. You will know it came out when it hits you upside your head. Walt -----Original Message----- Make sure you drain the oil before you flip the bike upside down or else you will end up covered in oil when you lift it over your head and shake it. Walt

RobertWichert
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d*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel

Post by RobertWichert » Mon May 07, 2012 6:55 pm

Perhaps a garage gorilla would be helpful. As opposed to a trunk monkey. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 5/7/2012 4:00 PM, k650@... wrote: > > Also don't look up or the socket may take your eye out. You will know it > came out when it hits you upside your head. > > Walt > > -----Original Message----- > Make sure you drain the oil before you flip the bike upside down or > else you > will end up covered in oil when you lift it over your head and shake it. > > Walt > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ron Haraseth
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d*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel

Post by Ron Haraseth » Mon May 07, 2012 7:09 pm

Definitely a group exercise for a Tech Day. -----Original Message----- From: RobertWichert Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:55 PM To: k650@... Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: D*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel Perhaps a garage gorilla would be helpful. As opposed to a trunk monkey. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 5/7/2012 4:00 PM, k650@... wrote: > > Also don't look up or the socket may take your eye out. You will know it > came out when it hits you upside your head. > > Walt > > -----Original Message----- > Make sure you drain the oil before you flip the bike upside down or > else you > will end up covered in oil when you lift it over your head and shake it. > > Walt > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links

oldwing@cox.net
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d*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel

Post by oldwing@cox.net » Mon May 07, 2012 7:40 pm

Just so everyone is aware, the cam chain tunnel does not conect with the oil sump, it is outside of that. Turning the bike over may help but nothing in the sump will help. It looks like the most likely is to pull the left side cover as if doing the doo again. I was sorta hoping to advoid more tear down but since it is my fault it is kinda hard to complain to much. It may be a week before I can devote more time to it. I'll let everyone know what I find.
> As a last resort, before tearing into the engine, flip the bike upside down.
-- Bill Lewis Roanoke, Virginia Professor of Motorcycleology 2004 R1150RT 1990 R100RT 2002 KLR Expect The Unexpected

ron criswell
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d*mn, droped a socket down the cam chain tunnel

Post by ron criswell » Tue May 08, 2012 9:30 am

I still don't know where that 3/8 of an inch chunk of doohickey wound up. Never has shown up with both side covers been off. I try not to think of it. Criswell Who try's to ride with fingers on the clutch lever. Sent from my iPad
On May 7, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 12:23:21 -0000 "CY" writes: > > I dropped a woodruff key down there on my2001. Still there and > > running fine. Just leave the socket there. It is probably too big to > > get stuck in anything. > <><><><><> > <><><><><> > > CY, > > That is really bad advice. > > Anything that can get in the engine has an opportunity to get into the > transmission area too. Either the engine or the transmission has plenty > of opportunities for catastrophic damage if something gets jammed between > gears, chain and sprockets etc. If you've ever seen a picture of the > inside of an engine that grenaded from broken doohickey parts you'll know > exactly what I'm talking about. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > > . > . > __________________________________________________________ > 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 > The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fa7c3fb52b42eccc84st03vuc > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

mark ward
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(fred h.) clutch part?

Post by mark ward » Sat May 12, 2012 7:08 pm

"UNSOLICITED" When I, put something to/on the list, I'm hoping for Experienced, Feed back. It's one thing I love about this group, Besides "Friends" Those I HAVE and Have not YET met face to face.
--- On Sat, 5/12/12, James W. Flower wrote: From: James W. Flower Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: (Fred H.) Clutch part? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 12, 2012, 3:53 PM Some unsolicited advice: 1. be careful removing the old one, pull it straight out, and slowly. It has a sharp hook near the bottom where it's cut out to grab the end of the clutch rod. That little hooky part can catch on and damage the oil seal on its way out. Don't ask me how I know. 2. If you need to replace either that oil seal or the bearing under it, don't mess with seal picks and such. Borrow or buy a blind bearing puller (good quality but spendier at Motion Pro, cheaper but -well, cheaper - at Harbor Freight) and use that. Again, don't ask me... 3. I got the part from a different source (Fred wasn't selling them then), and its vertical shaft was about 1/10" longer than the one I removed. So the external part (the release lever itself) sticks up about that same distance. After several years of psychoanalysis, I decided not to worry about it, just put a solid rubber washer on the shaft between the bottom of the lever and top of the case, for looks as much as function. But out of interest, would you please let me/us know if the two shafts are different lengths? I never did figure out why that would be. -JWF [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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