Wise words Fred, thanks.
Now...what about that person who suggested that 15w40 Rotella will reduce oil usage? Sounds like snake oil to me...
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From: Fred Hink
To: David Nichols ; KLR Group DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Cox, John" ; Jeff Khoury
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] My oil burning problem.
I have bored and finished many cylinders in my day and I know what makes a
good bore and a not so good bore. The problem with the KLR650 cylinder
according to Eldon Carl is that the KLR cylinder is supported from the top and
the bottom and nothing in the middle. The KLR cylinder on some bike have
been known to use excessive amounts of oil because the cylinder becomes out of
round. Boring the cylinder will make it round but the more material you
take off this cylinder the more it seems it will become less stabile.
Going to a big bore kit will make it temporarily round but for how long?
Sure you hear all the stories about how someone has this big bore kit done and
their oil usage miraculously disappears, the same thing would happen if they had
a rebore to the first or second oversized standard piston. Going to the
largest size on a rebore at the start is something you don t do because that
eliminates all the other chances of repairing the cylinder. If you need to
have the big bore cylinder rebored, then what do you do? If you understand
that once you put in a big bore kit then there are few alternatives for another
rebore, it is your money and you can use it anyway you like.
Fred
www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
From: David Nichols
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:35 PM
To: KLR Group
Cc: Cox, John ; Jeff Khoury
Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] My oil burning problem.
There are no oil leaks, my garage floor is bone dry where I park the bike.
Also, I recently adjusted the valve clearances. I will tear it down myself and
get it inspected and measured before I do anything. I'm just the type to plan
ahead for the worst...
I'm suspecting the unfiltered air has caused this.
I forgot to add the air filter in it was held together with a zip tie. The DPO
wasn't the brightest...
I knew about the condition of this bike going in. If
you recall, I only paid $500 for this bike and so far I'm only $1,100 into
it.
________________________________
From: "Cox, John"
To:
Jeff Khoury ; David
Nichols
Cc: KLR Group
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] My oil
burning problem.
And related to Fred s post, the boring process for
the 685 is not trivial to ensure a round hole. EM does a lot of them and
knows how to do it/have it done properly.
If you re short on cash
but have the tools and ability you might want to tear the top end down and have
a look at the rings and cylinder.
Also check the output shaft seal
at the counter sprocket the oil drain plug, and any other place leaked oil could
be.
When you checked the valves were any of them tight (no/low
clearance?)
-john
From:mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jeff Khoury
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:16 PM
To: David
Nichols
Cc: KLR Group
Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] My oil burning
problem.
I don't think (the last time I checked) that
Schnitz does the cylinder swap. You'd have to buy the kit and send your cylinder
out for boring. EM keeps a few on hand and will send you an already bored
cylinder with the kit, and you send him yours to bore and put on the shelf.
That's what the extra $100.00 is for.
-Jeff
Khoury
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Nichols"
To:
"Jeff Khoury" , "KLR Group"
Sent:
Wednesday, April 4, 2012 2:08:50 PM
Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] My oil burning
problem.
Thanks, I've considered that. It's not in my current budget, so
I guess I'll just keep adding oil for now. What about the valve seals? Should I
replace them at the same time as the 685 kit? Also, why buy from Eagle Mike
since Schnitz Racing makes it for him? I could buy directly from Schnitz.
From: Jeff Khoury
To: david
r nichols
Cc: DSN KLR650
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] My oil
burning problem.
Without knowing the details, I would say you may have a
cylinder/ring problem. That's a LOT of oil. Even the '08s don't burn that much.
Personally, If I were to tear into it as far as replacing rings I would
just do a 685 kit and be done with it. It's $400.00 with cylinder exchange from
EM, and I'd bet dollars to donuts that you'd burn no more oil, in addition to
all the other benefits.
That's what I would do if it were my bike, my
time and my money.
-Jeff Khoury
----- Original Message -----
From: "david r nichols" < mailto:david.r.nichols%40sbcglobal.net >
To: "DSN KLR650" < mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 11:50:06 AM
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] My
oil burning problem.
Does anyone have any thoughts on why my KLR is
using so much oil? It used about 3/4 a quart on a 170 mile ride (all on road).
The stats are: It had been sitting since 2007 when I bought it, ODO shows 13,000
miles. I have recently put about 300 miles on it. When I bought it it had a hole
in the airbox that the exhaust had melted. This was letting unfiltered air in. I
have no idea how long it was ridden in this condition. When I adjusted the
valves, the cams looked brand new, mirror like finish. I am using Valvoline
synthetic oil 15w40 weight. Someone has suggested I use 15w40 Rotella to reduce
oil usage. Why would that make any difference? Do you think I need to get new
rings and valve seals?
-David
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