found on craigslist, i really can't explain this just read the ad.

[k650@verizon.net]

Or maybe broke the rear sub-frame under the seat causing it to sag? Walt -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of spike55_bmw Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 18:14 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR 650 stolen then found- need advice Dave: There are two "links" or sometimes called "dog bones", because of their shape, that can be seen under the bike where they connect near the end of the shock absorber and the swing arm. He might have changed them but not many people have lowering links sitting around for when they steal that KLR. Does the shock absorber look OK: not bent, wet from an oil leak, or very little of the shiny metal shaft sticking out the bottom (seems like it is pushed all the way in the shock body), can you bounce on the bike and it makes a thump or does it feel normal? To me, if the links weren't switched out, the shock absorber would be the next place to evaluate. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Zawadzki wrote: > > Thank you all for the advice. The problem is that the guy changed the ignition and I can't get the bike started. I guess I will buy a new ignition (100$) and give it a shot. > I also forgot to mention that the bike is sitting really low. Th tire almost touches the back wheel. The shock is in place. Did the kid just take out the lowering rings? Is it possible to tell if they are there without taking the bike apart? What else could have caused this? > > Thanks for all the advice once again. I have nobody else to ask and have been following this group for about a year and have learned lots of things from everybodys experience. > > -David Z > mobile: 646.267.1109 > >

[david zawadzki]

Right.. The problem is that the insurance company won't let me see the bike before I decide what I want to do. From what i remember the shock looked like it was sitting really low and when i sat on the bike there was no bounce. It was sitting flat, as if i was sitting on a chair. I had the lowering rings in already on before and i think they were still there. I pushed the bike about 20feet but that was about all that i was allowed to do. Maybe the subframe is broken? Will a little weld job be strong enough? Im leaning more towards taking the bike, seeing whats up and taking it from there. Anybody got an extra ignition switch they want to sell? Whats the worst case scenario? Cracked frame and a busted shock? 200$ fix? Thanks, -David

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:14 PM, spike55_bmw wrote: > ** > > > Dave: > There are two "links" or sometimes called "dog bones", because of their > shape, that can be seen under the bike where they connect near the end of > the shock absorber and the swing arm. He might have changed them but not > many people have lowering links sitting around for when they steal that KLR. > > Does the shock absorber look OK: not bent, wet from an oil leak, or very > little of the shiny metal shaft sticking out the bottom (seems like it is > pushed all the way in the shock body), can you bounce on the bike and it > makes a thump or does it feel normal? To me, if the links weren't switched > out, the shock absorber would be the next place to evaluate. > > Don R100, A6F > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Zawadzki wrote: > > > > Thank you all for the advice. The problem is that the guy changed the > ignition and I can't get the bike started. I guess I will buy a new ignition > (100$) and give it a shot. > > I also forgot to mention that the bike is sitting really low. Th tire > almost touches the back wheel. The shock is in place. Did the kid just take > out the lowering rings? Is it possible to tell if they are there without > taking the bike apart? What else could have caused this? > > > > Thanks for all the advice once again. I have nobody else to ask and have > been following this group for about a year and have learned lots of things > from everybodys experience. > > > > -David Z > > mobile: 646.267.1109 > > > > -please download our free single > > www.thevanguardband.com > > > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:27 PM, RobertWichert wrote: > > > > > I agree with Don. If it's got oil and coolant, it should be OK. He > > > might have been doing burnouts (is this possible?) and so he might have > > > > over-revved it. I have over-revved mine several times, but I don't know > > > > how much "hidden damage" over-revving can do. I KNOW it can break > > > things, but those breaks are usually apparent immediately and make > nasty > > > noises too. > > > > > > Start it and listen. > > > > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > > > +1 916 966 9060 > > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > =============================================== > > > > > > On 10/12/2011 1:49 PM, spike55_bmw wrote: > > > > > > > > Stand it upright and determine if a safe amount of oil is still in > the > > > > sight glass. Check to see if you still have a safe amount of coolant > > > > in the overflow tank. If those are OK, you should be OK relative to > > > > the cylinder / piston interface. > > > > > > > > Probably good to check the valves. Drain the oil into a black plastic > > > > > tub and look for aluminum. Run a magnet around in there to see if > > > > fragments of gears are collected (if you don't already have a > magnetic > > > > drain plug). > > > > > > > > New oil & filter. Test run to see if the clutch is smoked. Watch the > > > > back fender for oil staining / smoke. Listen for bent valves. Try > some > > > > other way to secure the KLR from theft. > > > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > > , david zawadzki > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Everybody, > > > > > > > > > > My 2007 KLR was stolen and found by the police. The bike is > slightly > > > > beat up > > > > > but overall in a pretty good condition. > > > > > Some kid stole it and rode it for 200-300 miles. Looks like he was > doing > > > > > some wheelies because there are some scratches and the back tire is > > > > > a bit > > > > > worn out. > > > > > My question is : how much engine damage can 200-300 miles of > reckless > > > > > driving cause? > > > > > Progressive will give me 400$ less of the full settlement (GREAT!) > if i > > > > > decide to keep the bike so i kind of want to keep it. > > > > > I need to buy a new ignition and hopefully the baby will start. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give me any possible advice... > > > > > > > > > > -David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud]

Without skipping ahead and reading the other answers, my quick response is, worst case the bike is too trashed for anything but parts. You should easily realize more than $400 by parting it out.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, david zawadzki wrote: > > Hello Everybody, > > My 2007 KLR was stolen and found by the police. The bike is slightly beat up > but overall in a pretty good condition. > Some kid stole it and rode it for 200-300 miles. Looks like he was doing > some wheelies because there are some scratches and the back tire is a bit > worn out. > My question is : how much engine damage can 200-300 miles of reckless > driving cause? > Progressive will give me 400$ less of the full settlement (GREAT!) if i > decide to keep the bike so i kind of want to keep it. > I need to buy a new ignition and hopefully the baby will start. > > > Please give me any possible advice... > > -David > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[ron criswell]

But....was she good looking? Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:18 PM, James Douglas wrote: > When my car was stolen, the young lady filled it up with gas. I know I > left the car running on a cold morning trying > to warm it up and ran inside to get coffee and the clerk say's The girl > just took your car dude! > > > Keep it, and ride it like you stole it! Oh, wait a minute ... > > > > Seriously -- change the oil, check the valves, and ride on. > > > > Chris > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:47 PM, david zawadzki wrote: > > > >> ** > >> > >> > >> Hello Everybody, > >> > >> My 2007 KLR was stolen and found by the police. The bike is slightly beat > >> up > >> but overall in a pretty good condition. > >> Some kid stole it and rode it for 200-300 miles. Looks like he was doing > >> some wheelies because there are some scratches and the back tire is a bit > >> worn out. > >> My question is : how much engine damage can 200-300 miles of reckless > >> driving cause? > >> Progressive will give me 400$ less of the full settlement (GREAT!) if i > >> decide to keep the bike so i kind of want to keep it. > >> I need to buy a new ignition and hopefully the baby will start. > >> > >> Please give me any possible advice... > >> > >> -David > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[ron criswell]

A good weld should hold. I broke the top triple clamp on my Hodaka years ago (in an unintentional endo) and had it Heli arc welded. I rode it like I stole it for another couple of years. A spectacular endo. Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:42 PM, david zawadzki wrote: > Right.. The problem is that the insurance company won't let me see the bike > before I decide what I want to do. > > From what i remember the shock looked like it was sitting really low and > when i sat on the bike there was no bounce. It was sitting flat, as if i was > sitting on a chair. I had the lowering rings in already on before and i > think they were still there. I pushed the bike about 20feet but that was > about all that i was allowed to do. Maybe the subframe is broken? Will a > little weld job be strong enough? > > Im leaning more towards taking the bike, seeing whats up and taking it from > there. Anybody got an extra ignition switch they want to sell? > > Whats the worst case scenario? Cracked frame and a busted shock? 200$ fix? > > Thanks, > -David > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:14 PM, spike55_bmw wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Dave: >> There are two "links" or sometimes called "dog bones", because of their >> shape, that can be seen under the bike where they connect near the end of >> the shock absorber and the swing arm. He might have changed them but not >> many people have lowering links sitting around for when they steal that KLR. >> >> Does the shock absorber look OK: not bent, wet from an oil leak, or very >> little of the shiny metal shaft sticking out the bottom (seems like it is >> pushed all the way in the shock body), can you bounce on the bike and it >> makes a thump or does it feel normal? To me, if the links weren't switched >> out, the shock absorber would be the next place to evaluate. >> >> Don R100, A6F >> >> >> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Zawadzki wrote: >>> >>> Thank you all for the advice. The problem is that the guy changed the >> ignition and I can't get the bike started. I guess I will buy a new ignition >> (100$) and give it a shot. >>> I also forgot to mention that the bike is sitting really low. Th tire >> almost touches the back wheel. The shock is in place. Did the kid just take >> out the lowering rings? Is it possible to tell if they are there without >> taking the bike apart? What else could have caused this? >>> >>> Thanks for all the advice once again. I have nobody else to ask and have >> been following this group for about a year and have learned lots of things >> from everybodys experience. >>> >>> -David Z >>> mobile: 646.267.1109 >>> >>> -please download our free single >>> www.thevanguardband.com >>> >>> On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:27 PM, RobertWichert wrote: >>> >>>> I agree with Don. If it's got oil and coolant, it should be OK. He >>>> might have been doing burnouts (is this possible?) and so he might have >> >>>> over-revved it. I have over-revved mine several times, but I don't know >> >>>> how much "hidden damage" over-revving can do. I KNOW it can break >>>> things, but those breaks are usually apparent immediately and make >> nasty >>>> noises too. >>>> >>>> Start it and listen. >>>> >>>> Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP >>>> +1 916 966 9060 >>>> FAX +1 916 966 9068 >>>> >>>> =============================================== >>>> >>>> On 10/12/2011 1:49 PM, spike55_bmw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Stand it upright and determine if a safe amount of oil is still in >> the >>>>> sight glass. Check to see if you still have a safe amount of coolant >>>>> in the overflow tank. If those are OK, you should be OK relative to >>>>> the cylinder / piston interface. >>>>> >>>>> Probably good to check the valves. Drain the oil into a black plastic >> >>>>> tub and look for aluminum. Run a magnet around in there to see if >>>>> fragments of gears are collected (if you don't already have a >> magnetic >>>>> drain plug). >>>>> >>>>> New oil & filter. Test run to see if the clutch is smoked. Watch the >>>>> back fender for oil staining / smoke. Listen for bent valves. Try >> some >>>>> other way to secure the KLR from theft. >>>>> >>>>> Don R100, A6F >>>>> >>>>> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >>>>> , david zawadzki >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Everybody, >>>>>> >>>>>> My 2007 KLR was stolen and found by the police. The bike is >> slightly >>>>> beat up >>>>>> but overall in a pretty good condition. >>>>>> Some kid stole it and rode it for 200-300 miles. Looks like he was >> doing >>>>>> some wheelies because there are some scratches and the back tire is >> >>>>> a bit >>>>>> worn out. >>>>>> My question is : how much engine damage can 200-300 miles of >> reckless >>>>>> driving cause? >>>>>> Progressive will give me 400$ less of the full settlement (GREAT!) >> if i >>>>>> decide to keep the bike so i kind of want to keep it. >>>>>> I need to buy a new ignition and hopefully the baby will start. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please give me any possible advice... >>>>>> >>>>>> -David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >> >> >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! 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[Robert Waters]

Two issues; First, to get to look at the bike (which someone has told you you cannot do) don't give up. Ask to talk to a manager. Tell him you were initially told that you could not see the bike to inspect to see whether you want it or not. Assure him that you trust he can help you work this out. No one in their right mind is interested in buying a "pig in a poke." Second, instead of buying a new ignition, try a good lock smith. He should be able to make you a key or re-key the lock. Or, perhaps the dealer can use the numbers on the switch to reproduce the key. Good luck. rw Posted by: "david zawadzki" fordavidz@... davidzawadzki Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:42 pm (PDT) Right.. The problem is that the insurance company won't let me see the bike before I decide what I want to do. From what i remember the shock looked like it was sitting really low and when i sat on the bike there was no bounce. It was sitting flat, as if i was sitting on a chair. I had the lowering rings in already on before and i think they were still there. I pushed the bike about 20feet but that was about all that i was allowed to do. Maybe the subframe is broken? Will a little weld job be strong enough? Im leaning more towards taking the bike, seeing whats up and taking it from there. Anybody got an extra ignition switch they want to sell? Whats the worst case scenario? Cracked frame and a busted shock? 200$ fix? Thanks, -David [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[pdstreeter@mmm.com]

David wrote:

>I also forgot to mention that the bike is sitting really low. Th tire

almost

>touches the back wheel. The shock is in place. Did the kid just take out

the

>lowering rings? Is it possible to tell if they are there without taking

the

>bike apart? What else could have caused this?

This is a little confusing to me. If you mean that the tire almost touches the rear fender, your shock may be broken. I broke the spring collar on my rear shock once and it made the KLR look like chopper, the back end low and the long forks raked out. No such thing as "lowering rings", the KLR uses links, but if they were removed, then yes, I think the whole back end would drop down. Good luck, Paul Streeter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[pdstreeter@mmm.com]

David wrote:

> Maybe the subframe is broken? Will a >little weld job be strong enough?

No problem welding the sub-frame, I had that done in Mexico a couple of years ago. I'd be more careful welding the main frame, but hey, it's steel, shouldn't be a problem for a good welder. Paul Streeter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[pdstreeter@mmm.com]

Stu asked me to forward this to the list.:

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, pdstreeter@... wrote: > > David wrote: > > > Maybe the subframe is broken? Will a > >little weld job be strong enough? > > No problem welding the sub-frame, I had that done in Mexico a couple of > years ago. I'd be more careful welding the main frame, but hey, it's > steel, shouldn't be a problem for a good welder. > > Paul Streeter > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > I doubt it's a broken sub-frame, I'll bet the upper bolts are broken. Very common, not a big deal at all. Here is a super-anal thread to read. http://advwisdom.hogranch.com/Wisdom/KLR650%20Subframe%20drill%20thru%20step%20by%20step%20walkthru.html As far as the rest of the bike, unless the dummy drained it of oil and then ringed it out, I reckon it'll be just fine. Good luck! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[david zawadzki]

Follow up to my "Stolen and then found" earlier post... The wait is over and i got the bike back. Just ordered the new ignition off feabay and wonder if it will start. The bike is looks like it got into a small fight and has a few cuts and bruises. Overall im happy with the condition. There is one problem though... 1.The muffler is touching the wheel and i dont know why. I try to lift the muffler but it wont go anywhere. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lG7U4QIBqJQJlWL3UN-TTuqKERlA8QxZ-Vpd7Mm9H-M?feat=directlink Close up https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lfVjWWnEGd1LOdXYPIYjLOqKERlA8QxZ-Vpd7Mm9H-M?feat=directlink 2. The shock seems to be sticking out too much. i dont remember how it was before. maybe this is the cause of the problem? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/RdLEO84ZlO-Fmm5jZEB49uqKERlA8QxZ-Vpd7Mm9H-M?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DZ7PodW5ecyy5kA_9FO5SuqKERlA8QxZ-Vpd7Mm9H-M?feat=directlink the shock itself looks ok https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/p0RTZKJ13WMZnQShlOiGNOqKERlA8QxZ-Vpd7Mm9H-M?feat=directlink What do i do from here? When i sit on the bike, it feels like the shock has some bounce. Its not totally flat as if i was sitting on a piece of wood. Should i adjust the shock? Turning clockwise only right? Thanks for all your help, David

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:47 PM, david zawadzki wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > My 2007 KLR was stolen and found by the police. The bike is slightly beat > up but overall in a pretty good condition. > Some kid stole it and rode it for 200-300 miles. Looks like he was doing > some wheelies because there are some scratches and the back tire is a bit > worn out. > My question is : how much engine damage can 200-300 miles of reckless > driving cause? > Progressive will give me 400$ less of the full settlement (GREAT!) if i > decide to keep the bike so i kind of want to keep it. > I need to buy a new ignition and hopefully the baby will start. > > > Please give me any possible advice... > > -David > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]