problems at start up after sitting - update

[MotorMark]

I just ran across this website about the diesel KLR, and thought yall would be interested. http://www.motorbikestoday.com/features/Articles/diesel_bikes.htm MotorMark

[Jim]

I've been day dreaming about the on again, off again Diesel KLR and am wondering out loud if the makers would in fact sell only the new engine and related upgrades. I figure Fred will come up with a quality change over kit in no time and there will even be listers who offer to facilitate the installation. Why I'd be willing to bet within six months of sale there will be change out parties at locations around the USA all organized on this very list. Perhaps we can set up a deposit procedure for those interested to illustrate the demand. Someone make a motion! --Jim (FWI, I switched over to reserve this evening at 258 miles) A-15

[squasher_1]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote:

> I've been day dreaming about the on again, off again Diesel KLR and

am

> wondering out loud if the makers would in fact sell only the new > engine and related upgrades. I figure Fred will come up with a > quality change over kit in no time and there will even be listers

who

> offer to facilitate the installation. Why I'd be willing to bet > within six months of sale there will be change out parties at > locations around the USA all organized on this very list. Perhaps

we

> can set up a deposit procedure for those interested to illustrate

the

> demand. Someone make a motion! > --Jim (FWI, I switched over to reserve this evening at 258 miles) > A-15

But has the doohickey been upgraded in the diesel motor?????

[Doug Herr]

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Jim wrote:

> I've been day dreaming about the on again, off again Diesel KLR and am > wondering out loud if the makers would in fact sell only the new > engine and related upgrades.

Does anybody have a clue of what the price would/should be for that? If it was low enough then I agree that there would be a demand. If it was high then I don't see that many people willing to do this. Remember that it does not give you a bike that is *that* much different from our beloved. -- Doug Herr doug@...

[aboyandhisdawg]

F1 engineering is looking for somwhere in the neighborhood of two to three million dollars for testing, tooling, yada, yada, yada... i'm guessing they'd provide the suc... uh, investor with a diesel bike after all that. other than that, it's simply not available currently. since they seem to be claiming that they need to build another production line for civilian bikes... i'd have to guess that the cost for just the powerplant without the BS of all the "testing" of complete bikes would still be steep. in other words, don't hold your breath. more importantly, if you want a KLR, don't postpone purchasing a current "standard" version waiting for the diesel. fixer KLR A1 Lost Wages, NV

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Doug Herr wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Jim wrote: > > > I've been day dreaming about the on again, off again Diesel KLR and am > > wondering out loud if the makers would in fact sell only the new > > engine and related upgrades. > > Does anybody have a clue of what the price would/should be for > that? > > If it was low enough then I agree that there would be a demand. > If it was high then I don't see that many people willing to do > this. Remember that it does not give you a bike that is *that* > much different from our beloved. > > -- > Doug Herr > doug@w...

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2004-06-06 7:19:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, doug@... writes:

> On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Jim wrote: > > >I've been day dreaming about the on again, off again Diesel KLR and am > >wondering out loud if the makers would in fact sell only the new > >engine and related upgrades. > > Does anybody have a clue of what the price would/should be for > that? > > If it was low enough then I agree that there would be a demand. > If it was high then I don't see that many people willing to do > this. Remember that it does not give you a bike that is *that* > much different from our beloved. > > -- > Doug Herr > doug@... > >

Start with one KLR, $5000; pull engine, split cases, insert new gear set, install diesel upper end, ignition and carb, lets say $3000; start adding other items to the tune of $1000. I can see a civilian version being $9000 before you start adding in a profit margin or the cost of homolguation. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Zachariah Mully]

On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 00:43, kdxkawboy@... wrote:

> Start with one KLR, $5000; pull engine, split cases, insert new gear set, > install diesel upper end, ignition and carb, lets say $3000; start adding other > items to the tune of $1000. I can see a civilian version being $9000 before you > start adding in a profit margin or the cost of homolguation.

And don't forget,casting new engine cases, cnc milling an injector body, add ECU and injector pump. Shit, I'd be happy if they simply sold a kit of the parts they make, nothing from KHI... Basically it'd be an "add your own KLR" kit. It's not like I don't have most of two engines in crates in my garage. Z DC A5X A12X

[Chris Krok]

I've been out of town for a while and not keeping up with the list, so this may be old news. If so, I apologize. An Alert FAQ Reader forwarded an e-mail he received from F1 Engineering, in which they indicate that they will be making 100 diesel KLRs available to the public, as well as crate engines. They expect the bikes to run 20% over MSRP. A "substantial" deposit will be required, which will be placed in escrow and returned in the event that there is a problem with release. Keep an eye on the F1 website for info. Krokko -- Dr. J. Christopher Krok Explosion Dynamics Laboratory John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125

[John S Harper]

100??? Won't they need to hold a lottery? I'd think 100 wouldn't last long. Chris Krok Sent by: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 08/22/2005 12:32 PM To KLR650 list DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> cc Subject [DSN_KLR650] Diesel KLR I've been out of town for a while and not keeping up with the list, so this may be old news. If so, I apologize. An Alert FAQ Reader forwarded an e-mail he received from F1 Engineering, in which they indicate that they will be making 100 diesel KLRs available to the public, as well as crate engines. They expect the bikes to run 20% over MSRP. A "substantial" deposit will be required, which will be placed in escrow and returned in the event that there is a problem with release. Keep an eye on the F1 website for info. Krokko -- Dr. J. Christopher Krok Explosion Dynamics Laboratory John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125 Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[J Fortner]

On 8/22/05, John S Harper wrote:

> 100??? Won't they need to hold a lottery? I'd think 100 wouldn't last > long.

I would hold off comment until I saw the price. May be able to buy multiple KLR's for the price of one F1 deisel engine...