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Post by jirvine@nmsu.edu » Sat Nov 25, 2000 2:11 pm

At 11:50 AM 11/25/00 -0800, gyb@... wrote:
> > >I have to ask. What is this "fact" based on? It doesn't match the >industry, manufacturers recommendation nor any independent testing, >so you must have some other source for this, I assume. > >Isn't Mobil1 15w 50 a car oil? Is it safe to run in your bike? > >Gustavo
I agree that there needs to be some facts. For good info on oil Motorcycle consumer news just finished a several part series. It may not be definitive but a very thorough evaluation. Mobil 15/50 automotive came out looking very well. I'll keep using it although I'm still on Dino for the KLR's. JI 00 650 new baby 00 250 (1 broken clutch lever today )-:
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Post by TLrydr@aol.com » Sat Nov 25, 2000 5:38 pm

I I got it from a test from MCN a few years back, it was on Relative viscosity retention comparisons among five different brands of auto and motorcycle oils, It was when all oils still had a bunch of zink Honda GN 4 Kawasaki premium Maxum 4 premium motul 3000 spectro 4 Torco 4 cycle Torco MPZ Penzoil Havoline Quakerstate Motorcraft AC Delco Castrol GTX Valvoline The Synthethetic Mobil 1 beat every thing by such a wide margine I have sued it every since Mike n a message dated 11/25/00 2:51:27 PM EST, gyb@... writes: << Isn't Mobil1 15w 50 a car oil? Is it safe to run in your bike? Gustavo >>

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Post by gyb@sprynet.com » Sat Nov 25, 2000 8:30 pm

At 03:38 PM 11/25/00, TLrydr@... wrote:
>I I got it from a test from MCN a few years back, it was on Relative >viscosity retention comparisons among five different brands of auto and >motorcycle oils,
Yes, I have read that test too, but how did you go from reading that test to considering that oil should be changed at 800 or 1500 mile intervals? That test did not evaluate the changes to oil properties after the 1500 mile test (only Mobil 1 was run longer than that). Also, if you check the latest oil test, some of the results are not as clear, because they were testing for more items than just viscosity retention. Not to mention that the viscosity retention of Mobil 1 seems to have been reduced significantly from the test results 6 years ago. It came in at the lower end of the chart. OTOH, Honda HP4 seems to have improved significantly over the last 6 years. But, at the same time, they showed poorly in other areas. This is an oil that sells for $6/qt! You could probably do better with almost anything that is on sale at your local Wal-Mart. I think you have to take these test results as a good start for comparison, but they are not exactly scientific and definitive. After all, you don't really account for variations in riding styles of the Wing club members that participated in the test. Even if you assume the bikes are as identical as possible, there was no mention of what range of mileage those bikes had, and how that was considered for the test. I always give MCN the benefit of the doubt, because they are probably the only really independent mag. But even their test has it's limitations.
> The Synthethetic Mobil 1 beat every thing by such a wide margine >I have sued it every since
Mike, if you sued Mobil over an oil you think is great, I'd hate to know what happens to those you don't like... ;-) YOilMV, Gustavo

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Post by TLrydr@aol.com » Sun Nov 26, 2000 10:07 am

I give up! LOL. I think you can get by running any kind of oil as long as you change at 800 to 1000 miles, But you better go with the man made stuff to run the oil to 3000 miles. Most bikes shift better with the Syn. stuff. Try it and see... But the bottom line is clean oil is better than dirty oil... Mike In a message dated 11/25/00 9:31:13 PM EST, gyb@... writes: ;-) >>

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Post by gyb@sprynet.com » Sun Nov 26, 2000 3:21 pm

At 08:07 AM 11/26/00, TLrydr@... wrote:
>I think you can get by running any kind of oil as long as you change at 800 >to 1000 miles, But you better go with the man made stuff to run the oil to >3000 miles. >Most bikes shift better with the Syn. stuff. Try it and see... >But the bottom line is clean oil is better than dirty oil...
Mike, don't get me wrong. I agree that there is enough evidence to show that synthetics do have an advantage over petroleum oils. But 800 and 1500 miles are awfully short intervals for either. YOilMV, Gustavo

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Post by TLrydr@aol.com » Sun Nov 26, 2000 3:36 pm

I feel OK pushing the Syn. to 2000 miles but never a dyno oil, I like to change Mobil 1 15-50 every 1000 to 1500 miles, Its a little over kill, but I run my motors WFO and hard, Now if i rode like a grandpa like some people on this list, I might change oil every 3000 miles. Like i say i run hard, Oil is cheap engines are not. lol. Mike In a message dated 11/26/00 4:21:19 PM EST, gyb@... writes: << Mike, don't get me wrong. I agree that there is enough evidence to show that synthetics do have an advantage over petroleum oils. But 800 and 1500 miles are awfully short intervals for either >>

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Post by gyb@sprynet.com » Sun Nov 26, 2000 3:42 pm

>I feel OK pushing the Syn. to 2000 miles but never a dyno oil, I like to >change Mobil 1 15-50 every 1000 to 1500 miles, Its a little over kill, but I >run my motors WFO and hard, Now if i rode like a grandpa like some people on >this list, I might change oil every 3000 miles. Like i say i run hard,
Oil is
>cheap engines are not. lol.
That last part about engine vs oil cost is absolutely right. It is cheap insurance. I should be able to run petroleum based oil to at least 5K miles, then... ;-) Talking of riding, it is time I go for a ride (at grandpa's pace, of course). Later, Gustavo

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Post by Dan Oaks » Sat Jan 13, 2001 7:55 am

Hey Kurt: After spending time on both the DR and KLR lists, have you ever figured out why any mention of oil brings down the wrath of God on either of these lists? -- Dan (BIERDO) Oaks, President Formtech Services, Inc. Mfr. of Printing Equipment & Supplies bierdo@... http://www.formtechservices.com and 4x4 POLY Motorcycle Parts bierdo@... http://www.dirtly.com 2970 Robins Nest Ct. Saint Cloud, FL 34772-8182 USA 800 522-6257 407 957-7887 (fax)

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Post by wingrj@aol.com » Fri Mar 23, 2001 7:06 am

I think you gys are thinking too much. 1990 KLR650 65,000 miles 1995 KLR650 30,100 and counting Castrol 30w Viewed best in the text font 'Courier' ___ /___\ (!* *!) __\^-^/__ / ___ \ _/ |___| \_ (__\=/ \=/__) O=|_[ ]_|=O \.---./ | = = | | =.-.= | !_|| ||_! =|| ||= <| |> | | | | _____`-'_____ Wish I could go through life like I go through traffic

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Post by ct_bob@juno.com » Mon Jun 04, 2001 11:44 am

What weight oil do most use at what temperature ranges? Bob L Manchester, NH

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