updated klr tool tube link

[David Critchley]

Folks, An idea just occurred to me. Is it possible that the sight glass was perfectly correct for the KLR500, and maybe the 600, and was just left as is when things changed? So now we all play "silly bugger" with the sight glass? Any corrections would be welcome. DC D Critchley

On 27/04/2011 06:10, eddie wrote: > Welcome Dominick! > >> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] New Member >> >> Good morning Dominick [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "eddie" wrote:

> > > Welcome Dominick! > > To address your oil concerns, here's what I found with my 09': > I like to lean the bike a little left & right during draining to get every > bit of what I can that might be trapped in the covers, crevices, etc.. > When I first drained the engine oil completely and replaced the filter, 2 > liters took it to the top of the sight glass with the bike standing dead > vertical > on level pavement . That left it 500cc short of the recommended fill. > 20% is a lot of oil. So, I added another 1/2 liter and have been doing it > that way ever since.

Eddie- Q. During your oil/filter change: When you said your bike was 'full' at 2 L added, was that after your filter was fully charged with new oil? It sounds like that is at 'full' before the bike has been started: mine will also indicate full before I start the bike (98/01) and fully charge the oil filter/cavity with fresh oil. Your 09 might be slightly different than the 98/01 but I don't think it will be significantly different. Next time you change the oil and filter, add only 2 L of oil, run the bike a few moments to move oil into the filter area and check the oil level again after the oil drains back into the sump. I bet it will be lower than full, as I described to Dominick. revmaaatin.

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Critchley wrote:

> > Folks, > An idea just occurred to me. Is it possible that the sight glass was > perfectly correct for the KLR500, and maybe the 600, and was just left > as is when things changed? So now we all play "silly bugger" with the > sight glass? > Any corrections would be welcome. > DC > D Critchley

DC- I don't play silly bugger with anyone, especially with a sight glass in their belly! It would not surprise me a bit that the KHI made the best use of their previous casting equipments and used a side cover that was previously designed for another application. Just a guess--but it fits the occidental mind set of not inventing something if you have something that works 'just' fine. I see it here everyday in the Dakota's. = good enough, chap; move on to the next do-hickey (head shake) And this leads us to the perennial discussion: which do you believe? It is all a matter of what you want to believe. The text tells us the sump capacity is 2.5 L. The case is cast/engraved with 2.5 L capacity. Or the sight gage. Unfortunately, the sight glass and the case-casting/text don't agree. I choose to believe the casting/text that rather than the sight gage. I also believe the bike will run just fine if it is ALWAYS between the lines, however, running the bike at full capacity, rather than 20% low is more than 20% better for the bike. However, if the bike is run at 5,000+Roms for an extended time, many of the machines loose oil; some lose a lot! Start at 'min' and loose a lot of oil, (head shake) well, that's not so good. Recently: Some poor guy posted that he had to add qt of oil! oh-no!!!! Oil is not just a lubricant, but a heat sink as well. I believe operating the KLR at 100% design oil capacity is best. shrug. My machines are for the long haul, and I may do things differently than some who trade away every year or so. I want it to last, and last, and last. Thus, I believe measuring the oil to see what the correlation is between the min/max indication and sump capacity is essential to long life. or it might just be some of the anal-retentive things KLR riders do because that is just what we do as a viable and useful substitute for loud pipes and polishing chrome. revmaaatin. The first turkey buzzards arrived yesterday. Spring is coming.

[revmaaatin]

Correction: loose or lose. Forgive me, I learned to speak English in the Arkansas delta. and it shows sometimes. That should be 'lose' oil = consume or blow it out, not loose oil, which I hope it is alwasys loose and suffer minimal loss between changes of loose oil. m.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > However, if the bike is run at 5,000+Roms for an extended time, many of the machines loose oil; some lose a lot! > Start at 'min' and loose a lot of oil, (head shake) well, that's not so good. > Recently: Some poor guy posted that he had to add qt of oil! > oh-no!!!! > > Oil is not just a lubricant, but a heat sink as well. > I believe operating the KLR at 100% design oil capacity is best. shrug. > > revmaaatin. > The first turkey buzzards arrived yesterday. Spring is coming. >

[mark ward]

PROPER Anglish! Hlaf Hillbilly spent part of my laufe growing up in mich. (YANKEE) and Half in the Mountains of NC. and was picked on abit in 10th grade public speaking class in NC. for MY!!! Accent? IT'S POP, NOT soda, or Drank, or COKE for ANY soft drink (DRANK) Some even say ENGLISH with an E. Not AN GLISH. LOOSE, Lose, or loosted it. I still meet alot of people from other countries that have a hard time understanding Me. Someone that has lived all over the USA, AND for people from other countries to boot, and picking up there Dialogues. I think I was 45 when I met a man from Scottland (oops 1 T.) in lodge and he showed some clips and Educated us about, Scotland, A WHOLE Country only half the size of just lower Michigan. Aprox 250 x 250 miles, so when Most other talk about America being Big, or HARD learning to speak Anglish, I have to laugh a little knowing Many Countries are smaller then one average state here. Ya'll come to America yu'll find ya have to learn about 50 MIXED languages, Just going to da "U-P", (or da, "YOOPERS" as there called) Ya hear things Differant ........EH!

--- On Wed, 4/27/11, revmaaatin wrote: From: revmaaatin Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: New Member To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 9:08 PM Correction: loose or lose. Forgive me, I learned to speak English in the Arkansas delta. and it shows sometimes. That should be 'lose' oil = consume or blow it out, not loose oil, which I hope it is alwasys loose and suffer minimal loss between changes of loose oil. m. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > However, if the bike is run at 5,000+Roms for an extended time, many of the machines loose oil; some lose a lot! > Start at 'min' and loose a lot of oil, (head shake) well, that's not so good. > Recently: Some poor guy posted that he had to add qt of oil! > oh-no!!!! > > Oil is not just a lubricant, but a heat sink as well. > I believe operating the KLR at 100% design oil capacity is best. shrug. > > revmaaatin. > The first turkey buzzards arrived yesterday. Spring is coming. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[fasteddiecopeman]

Dom, FIRST - welcome aboard! Second - drain your oil into a CLEAN container and see how much was in it, then decide whether or not to put the oil back in. When you look at the "sight window", make sure the bike's vertical. Enjoy! Cheers, Ed

[Eddie]

I find it curious that this is part # 67670 in the Agrisupply catalog @ $4.99. Twisted Throttle is selling what looks like the same tube ( their part # is DIA.67670.100) for $14.95. Hmmmmm eddie

> [Original Message] > From: dmbaumgarten > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 9/15/2011 6:02:29 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Updated KLR tool tube link >

http://www.agrisupply.com/cart.asp?pn=67670&qty_67670=1&action=add_to_cart_ item_page