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[Joseph Labate]

It's been a wet winter here in Tucson this year and one of the more positive outcomes is the opportunity to do stream crossings in what is often a dry desert. (The wild flowers are another and the pollens' effect on those with allergies a negative.) Anyway, I received in the mail today a pair of IMS all-metal footpegs for my KLR and will be installing next. I've been having occasional problems with wet boots slipping on wet rubber of the OEM rubber pegs. Of course, I expect then I'll feel a bit more vibration when on the road. The BMW GS's have removable rubber pieces on theirs and you can pop them in and out as desired. jlabate

[Fred Hink]

I have been told by some with the IMS footpegs that they actually feel less vibration with these pegs. : ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Labate To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 12:15 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] footpegs It's been a wet winter here in Tucson this year and one of the more positive outcomes is the opportunity to do stream crossings in what is often a dry desert. (The wild flowers are another and the pollens' effect on those with allergies a negative.) Anyway, I received in the mail today a pair of IMS all-metal footpegs for my KLR and will be installing next. I've been having occasional problems with wet boots slipping on wet rubber of the OEM rubber pegs. Of course, I expect then I'll feel a bit more vibration when on the road. The BMW GS's have removable rubber pieces on theirs and you can pop them in and out as desired. jlabate Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Dan Oaks]

The first thing I did to my KLR was install a set of IMS metal pegs, and I notice no difference in the level of vibration form the pegs. The noticeable vibration seems to come from everywhere else. I also discovered early on, that when you remove that silly looking excuse of a windshield, road speed riding became much more pleasant. One word of caution though, take a file or emery cloth to the teeth on the outer ends of the pegs or your legs will look like you wrestled a bear after a few rides. They tend to claw your legs as you back up or do other foot powered maneuvers, Overall, I think the IMS foot pegs are about the best mod a serious rider can do to a KLR. As a matter of fact, I personally was disappointed with Kawasaki for selling a "dirt" bike with rubber pegs. Very dangerous! Just my 2 cents, but then I'm mostly full of shit! -- bierdo http://www.dirtly.com Joseph Labate wrote:

> It's been a wet winter here in Tucson this year and one of the more > positive outcomes is the opportunity to do stream crossings in what > is often a dry desert. (The wild flowers are another and the > pollens' effect on those with allergies a negative.) Anyway, I > received in the mail today a pair of IMS all-metal footpegs for my > KLR and will be installing next. I've been having occasional > problems with wet boots slipping on wet rubber of the OEM rubber > pegs. Of course, I expect then I'll feel a bit more vibration when > on the road. The BMW GS's have removable rubber pieces on theirs and > you can pop them in and out as desired. > > jlabate

[Rich Kickbush]

Overall, I think the IMS foot pegs are about the best mod a serious rider can do to a KLR. As a matter of fact, I personally was disappointed with Kawasaki for selling a "dirt" bike with rubber pegs. Very dangerous! Just my 2 cents, but then I'm mostly full of shit! True but not this time Bierdo. Amen on the IMS pegs, does anyone know an IMS or other replacement for the passenger pegs? I don't live anywhere near a bike salvage yard... Rich [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Susan Moorhead]

bierdo, The more I read about the KLR, the more I like my KLX, mine came with the all metal foot pegs, the better front forks, etc... Still have some vibration, it is a thumper after all. The deal to sell my KLX fell through, (as did the plans to put that money on a new KLR) and I had no idea that there were so many differences in the two bikes. So glad I have my KLX. Marshall in OK '95 KLXC3

----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Oaks To: Joseph Labate Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] footpegs > The first thing I did to my KLR was install a set of IMS metal pegs, and I > notice no difference in the level of vibration form the pegs. The noticeable > vibration seems to come from everywhere else. I also discovered early on, > that when you remove that silly looking excuse of a windshield, road speed > riding became much more pleasant. > > One word of caution though, take a file or emery cloth to the teeth on the > outer ends of the pegs or your legs will look like you wrestled a bear after > a few rides. They tend to claw your legs as you back up or do other foot > powered maneuvers, > > Overall, I think the IMS foot pegs are about the best mod a serious rider > can do to a KLR. As a matter of fact, I personally was disappointed with > Kawasaki for selling a "dirt" bike with rubber pegs. Very dangerous! > > Just my 2 cents, but then I'm mostly full of shit! > > -- > bierdo > > http://www.dirtly.com > > Joseph Labate wrote: > > > It's been a wet winter here in Tucson this year and one of the more > > positive outcomes is the opportunity to do stream crossings in what > > is often a dry desert. (The wild flowers are another and the > > pollens' effect on those with allergies a negative.) Anyway, I > > received in the mail today a pair of IMS all-metal footpegs for my > > KLR and will be installing next. I've been having occasional > > problems with wet boots slipping on wet rubber of the OEM rubber > > pegs. Of course, I expect then I'll feel a bit more vibration when > > on the road. The BMW GS's have removable rubber pieces on theirs and > > you can pop them in and out as desired. > > > > jlabate > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

[Dan Oaks]

Susan Moorhead wrote:

> bierdo, > > The more I read about the KLR, the more I like my KLX, mine came with the > all metal foot pegs, the better front forks, etc... Still have some > vibration, it is a thumper after all. The deal to sell my KLX fell through, > (as did the plans to put that money on a new KLR) and I had no idea that > there were so many differences in the two bikes. So glad I have my KLX. > > Marshall in OK > '95 KLXC3 >

I know that no one on this list wants to hear this shit, but there are other fine dual sports bikes besides the KLR. I own several and plan to buy more. -- bierdo -- Dan (BIERDO) Oaks, President Formtech Services, Inc. '01 KLR650 '99 DR650 '82 XL250R '78 TC90 '91 Yammy 4 stroke golf cart 2 bad dogs and a sled Mfr. of Printing Equipment & Supplies formtech@... bierdo@... http://www.formtechservices.com Mfr. of 4x4 POLY Motorcycle Parts bierdo@... http://www.dirtly.com 2970 Robins Nest Ct. Saint Cloud, FL 34772-8182 USA 800 522-6257 407 957-7887 (fax) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Greg Paul]

Hey, I am going to get these pegs but does anyone know just how strong the IMS pegs are? By looking at the way they are "bolted" on that a hard landing might possibly shear one or both. Anyone know anything about the some pegs called Front Line? They are fairly less expensive but are they any good? Thanks for any input! Greg in Dallas

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Dan Oaks wrote: > The first thing I did to my KLR was install a set of IMS metal pegs, and I > notice no difference in the level of vibration form the pegs. The noticeable > vibration seems to come from everywhere else. I also discovered early on, > that when you remove that silly looking excuse of a windshield, road speed > riding became much more pleasant. > > One word of caution though, take a file or emery cloth to the teeth on the > outer ends of the pegs or your legs will look like you wrestled a bear after > a few rides. They tend to claw your legs as you back up or do other foot > powered maneuvers, > > Overall, I think the IMS foot pegs are about the best mod a serious rider > can do to a KLR. As a matter of fact, I personally was disappointed with > Kawasaki for selling a "dirt" bike with rubber pegs. Very dangerous! > > Just my 2 cents, but then I'm mostly full of shit! > > -- > bierdo > > http://www.dirtly.com > > Joseph Labate wrote: > > > It's been a wet winter here in Tucson this year and one of the more > > positive outcomes is the opportunity to do stream crossings in what > > is often a dry desert. (The wild flowers are another and the > > pollens' effect on those with allergies a negative.) Anyway, I > > received in the mail today a pair of IMS all-metal footpegs for my > > KLR and will be installing next. I've been having occasional > > problems with wet boots slipping on wet rubber of the OEM rubber > > pegs. Of course, I expect then I'll feel a bit more vibration when > > on the road. The BMW GS's have removable rubber pieces on theirs and > > you can pop them in and out as desired. > > > > jlabate

[Greg Paul]

You're right on the money Dan, I just think everyone on here "hopes" they bought the "right" one.... )))) Greg in Dallas

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Dan Oaks wrote: > > > Susan Moorhead wrote: > > > bierdo, > > > > The more I read about the KLR, the more I like my KLX, mine came with the > > all metal foot pegs, the better front forks, etc... Still have some > > vibration, it is a thumper after all. The deal to sell my KLX fell through, > > (as did the plans to put that money on a new KLR) and I had no idea that > > there were so many differences in the two bikes. So glad I have my KLX. > > > > Marshall in OK > > '95 KLXC3 > > > > I know that no one on this list wants to hear this shit, but there are other > fine dual sports bikes besides the KLR. I own several and plan to buy more. > -- > bierdo > > > > -- > Dan (BIERDO) Oaks, President > Formtech Services, Inc. > > '01 KLR650 > '99 DR650 > '82 XL250R > '78 TC90 > '91 Yammy 4 stroke golf cart > 2 bad dogs and a sled > > Mfr. of Printing Equipment & Supplies > formtech@f... > bierdo@m... > http://www.formtechservices.com > > Mfr. of 4x4 POLY Motorcycle Parts > bierdo@d... > http://www.dirtly.com > > 2970 Robins Nest Ct. > Saint Cloud, FL 34772-8182 USA > 800 522-6257 > 407 957-7887 (fax) > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Dan Oaks]

My IMS pegs are not bolted on, they're pinned with springs so they can move out of the way, and are plenty sturdy. Look at a photo o of them at: http://www.formtechservices.com/bierdo/Peg27.jpg Only negative was that when I first put them on, they are wider than the stock and seemed to crowd my foot between the peg and shifter. I've become accustomed and it is not a problem. I think they're good value (about $100). -- bierdo Greg Paul wrote:

> Hey, > I am going to get these pegs but does anyone know just how strong the > IMS pegs are? By looking at the way they are "bolted" on that a hard > landing might possibly shear one or both. Anyone know anything about > the some pegs called Front Line? They are fairly less expensive but > are they any good? Thanks for any input! > > Greg in Dallas > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Dan Oaks wrote: > > The first thing I did to my KLR was install a set of IMS metal > pegs, and I > > notice no difference in the level of vibration form the pegs. The > noticeable > > vibration seems to come from everywhere else. I also discovered > early on, > > that when you remove that silly looking excuse of a windshield, > road speed > > riding became much more pleasant. > > > > One word of caution though, take a file or emery cloth to the teeth > on the > > outer ends of the pegs or your legs will look like you wrestled a > bear after > > a few rides. They tend to claw your legs as you back up or do other > foot > > powered maneuvers, > > > > Overall, I think the IMS foot pegs are about the best mod a serious > rider > > can do to a KLR. As a matter of fact, I personally was disappointed > with > > Kawasaki for selling a "dirt" bike with rubber pegs. Very dangerous! > > > > Just my 2 cents, but then I'm mostly full of shit! > > > > -- > > bierdo > > > > http://www.dirtly.com > > > > Joseph Labate wrote: > > > > > It's been a wet winter here in Tucson this year and one of the > more > > > positive outcomes is the opportunity to do stream crossings in > what > > > is often a dry desert. (The wild flowers are another and the > > > pollens' effect on those with allergies a negative.) Anyway, I > > > received in the mail today a pair of IMS all-metal footpegs for my > > > KLR and will be installing next. I've been having occasional > > > problems with wet boots slipping on wet rubber of the OEM rubber > > > pegs. Of course, I expect then I'll feel a bit more vibration > when > > > on the road. The BMW GS's have removable rubber pieces on theirs > and > > > you can pop them in and out as desired. > > > > > > jlabate > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-- Dan (BIERDO) Oaks, President Formtech Services, Inc. '01 KLR650 '99 DR650 '82 XL250R '78 TC90 '91 Yammy 4 stroke golf cart 2 bad dogs and a sled Mfr. of Printing Equipment & Supplies formtech@... bierdo@... http://www.formtechservices.com Mfr. of 4x4 POLY Motorcycle Parts bierdo@... http://www.dirtly.com 2970 Robins Nest Ct. Saint Cloud, FL 34772-8182 USA 800 522-6257 407 957-7887 (fax)

[Rich Kickbush]

You'd be doing well to shear the IMS Pro pegs - they have springs (albeit poorly designed) to return the peg to normal position as they are able to bend upwards as are the originals. The regular IMS pegs are steel and you would really have to hit something hard to bend those - this could only occur if the force hitting them had no vertical component, and most landing/falling would. If you're worried about a rider's weight bending or sheering the peg, or peg mount bolts, I wouldn't. What you SHOULD do is take the dicky pin and c - clip that holds either stock or aftermarket pegs, put them in an envelope, and mail it to the Kawasaki design team with clear instructions as to where they should place them. Best replacement would be a solid pin and split-pin setup, or a bolt with a solid section of shank, but a full-thread bolt of decent hardness shouldn't see too much wear either, used with a nyloc nut. Heard at least one case of a footpeg disappearing at an inappropriate moment resulting in a crash. Apparently DR650 pegs fit as well. I still haven't come across a size for the passenger pegs which I'd like to replace with spiked pegs - anyone? Rich

----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Paul To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:08 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: footpegs Hey, I am going to get these pegs but does anyone know just how strong the IMS pegs are? By looking at the way they are "bolted" on that a hard landing might possibly shear one or both. Anyone know anything about the some pegs called Front Line? They are fairly less expensive but are they any good? Thanks for any input! Greg in Dallas --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Dan Oaks wrote: > The first thing I did to my KLR was install a set of IMS metal pegs, and I > notice no difference in the level of vibration form the pegs. The noticeable > vibration seems to come from everywhere else. I also discovered early on, > that when you remove that silly looking excuse of a windshield, road speed > riding became much more pleasant. > > One word of caution though, take a file or emery cloth to the teeth on the > outer ends of the pegs or your legs will look like you wrestled a bear after > a few rides. They tend to claw your legs as you back up or do other foot > powered maneuvers, > > Overall, I think the IMS foot pegs are about the best mod a serious rider > can do to a KLR. As a matter of fact, I personally was disappointed with > Kawasaki for selling a "dirt" bike with rubber pegs. Very dangerous! > > Just my 2 cents, but then I'm mostly full of shit! > > -- > bierdo > > http://www.dirtly.com > > Joseph Labate wrote: > > > It's been a wet winter here in Tucson this year and one of the more > > positive outcomes is the opportunity to do stream crossings in what > > is often a dry desert. (The wild flowers are another and the > > pollens' effect on those with allergies a negative.) Anyway, I > > received in the mail today a pair of IMS all-metal footpegs for my > > KLR and will be installing next. I've been having occasional > > problems with wet boots slipping on wet rubber of the OEM rubber > > pegs. Of course, I expect then I'll feel a bit more vibration when > > on the road. The BMW GS's have removable rubber pieces on theirs and > > you can pop them in and out as desired. > > > > jlabate Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]