which tool in standard tookit fits 10mm engine sprocket cover flange

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Ian Francisco
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Post by Ian Francisco » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:50 pm

Got my A14 back together this week and took it for a shakedown cruise. It went around the block just fine, so I threw it (and myself) into the deep end of the pool by doing a seven hour, 300 mile loop, including about three hours of slab, some two-lane back roads and some fire road. Survived it although I was tired and had some neck and shoulder pain the last 100 miles or so to go with the saddle soreness. The KLR is a great bike, but you all know that. I also put on some IMS pegs and understand now why they are desirable in the dirt and not so much on the freeway. Pretty vibratious! (is that a word?) We'll have to see how my boots hold up. Those teeth are sharp! I used an older pair of boots for yesterday's ride. I wear shin guards but still wonder what those pegs could do to my legs in an accident. Anyway, this KLR is a 2000 model with 41k miles on the original rings and bore. I installed an '05 head at 24k and have been careful to keep the clearances in spec since. The original head with burned RH exhaust valve is sitting in my garage. Anyone want it? The first leg of my trip was from near the 10 and 57 up I5 to Frazier Park (SoCal for those who didn't know) and it gets steep through there. The KLR pulled like a locomotive up until the last two or three miles before Tejon Pass before it drops down into the valley that is home to residents of Frazier Park. I think the altitude is somewhere between 4k and 5k feet so not too high but with that and a strong headwind the KLR seemed to lose power and slowed down to 60mph in 5th with throttle wide open. Fourth gear is a large step down in gearing so I didn't go there, maybe should have. Sound normal? I guess it's time to pull the plug and do a compression test. The rest of the ride power felt normal again. The fun part of the ride was from I-5 west on Frazier Mtn. Park Rd. to Cuddy Valley Rd. to Mil Potrero Rd. to Cerro Noroeste Rd. to 166 west to 33 south to Ventura. 33 is straight but scenic at its northern end then it got twisty and even more scenic through Wheeler Gorge. Awesome rock formations. I will be returning. Lockwood Valley is a road I skipped and I didn't stop near often enough for pictures. http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=34.806809&lon=-118.973492&zoom=13&q1=Frazier%20Park%2C%20CA%2C%2093222 -- ian http://www.scarletfuries.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

RobertWichert
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Post by RobertWichert » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:14 pm

I could see 60 mph at full throttle in a steep climb at 5,000 feet with a 20-30 mph head wind and a fifteen tooth front sprocket and a stock rear sprocket. Maybe less. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 6/2/2011 11:50 AM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > Got my A14 back together this week and took it for a shakedown cruise. It > went around the block just fine, so I threw it (and myself) into the deep > end of the pool by doing a seven hour, 300 mile loop, including about > three > hours of slab, some two-lane back roads and some fire road. Survived it > although I was tired and had some neck and shoulder pain the last 100 > miles > or so to go with the saddle soreness. The KLR is a great bike, but you all > know that. I also put on some IMS pegs and understand now why they are > desirable in the dirt and not so much on the freeway. Pretty > vibratious! (is > that a word?) We'll have to see how my boots hold up. Those teeth are > sharp! > I used an older pair of boots for yesterday's ride. I wear shin guards but > still wonder what those pegs could do to my legs in an accident. > > Anyway, this KLR is a 2000 model with 41k miles on the original rings and > bore. I installed an '05 head at 24k and have been careful to keep the > clearances in spec since. The original head with burned RH exhaust > valve is > sitting in my garage. Anyone want it? The first leg of my trip was > from near > the 10 and 57 up I5 to Frazier Park (SoCal for those who didn't know) > and it > gets steep through there. The KLR pulled like a locomotive up until > the last > two or three miles before Tejon Pass before it drops down into the valley > that is home to residents of Frazier Park. I think the altitude is > somewhere > between 4k and 5k feet so not too high but with that and a strong headwind > the KLR seemed to lose power and slowed down to 60mph in 5th with throttle > wide open. Fourth gear is a large step down in gearing so I didn't go > there, > maybe should have. Sound normal? I guess it's time to pull the plug > and do a > compression test. The rest of the ride power felt normal again. > > The fun part of the ride was from I-5 west on Frazier Mtn. Park Rd. to > Cuddy > Valley Rd. to Mil Potrero Rd. to Cerro Noroeste Rd. to 166 west to 33 > south > to Ventura. 33 is straight but scenic at its northern end then it got > twisty > and even more scenic through Wheeler Gorge. Awesome rock formations. I > will > be returning. Lockwood Valley is a road I skipped and I didn't stop near > often enough for pictures. > > http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=34.806809&lon=-118.973492&zoom=13&q1=Frazier%20Park%2C%20CA%2C%2093222 > http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=34.806809&lon=-118.973492&zoom=13&q1=Frazier%20Park%2C%20CA%2C%2093222> > -- > ian > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Eddie
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Post by Eddie » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:22 pm

Great write-up, Ian! You sound like the sort that would say to yourself, "I need some lunch" and then ride 200 miles - one way. It's fun, isn't it? ;) Wouldn't be surprised if the altitude coupled with the extra heat in the engine from a long climb contributed to the power loss at altitude. Several years ago, my Honda dealer and I went on a long ride together. His carburetted CBR600F2 was positively anemic at just 5k feet vs. the much lower altitude where it normally runs. I had a good time following his sooty exhausted self on my old Transalp. LOL Speaking of Transalps, they came with nice, rubber covered main footpegs. But, if you removed one small bolt each, the covers slipped off - exposing an off-road style cleated peg. Does the aftermarket have anything like that{Fred?} ? eddie
> [Original Message] > From: Ian Francisco > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 6/2/2011 3:02:07 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] gasping for breath > > Got my A14 back together this week and took it for a shakedown cruise. It > went around the block just fine, so I threw it (and myself) into the deep > end of the pool by doing a seven hour, 300 mile loop, including about
three
> hours of slab, some two-lane back roads and some fire road. Survived it > although I was tired and had some neck and shoulder pain the last 100
miles
> or so to go with the saddle soreness. The KLR is a great bike, but you all > know that. I also put on some IMS pegs and understand now why they are > desirable in the dirt and not so much on the freeway. Pretty vibratious!
(is
> that a word?) We'll have to see how my boots hold up. Those teeth are
sharp!
> I used an older pair of boots for yesterday's ride. I wear shin guards but > still wonder what those pegs could do to my legs in an accident. > > Anyway, this KLR is a 2000 model with 41k miles on the original rings and > bore. I installed an '05 head at 24k and have been careful to keep the > clearances in spec since. The original head with burned RH exhaust valve
is
> sitting in my garage. Anyone want it? The first leg of my trip was from
near
> the 10 and 57 up I5 to Frazier Park (SoCal for those who didn't know) and
it
> gets steep through there. The KLR pulled like a locomotive up until the
last
> two or three miles before Tejon Pass before it drops down into the valley > that is home to residents of Frazier Park. I think the altitude is
somewhere
> between 4k and 5k feet so not too high but with that and a strong headwind > the KLR seemed to lose power and slowed down to 60mph in 5th with throttle > wide open. Fourth gear is a large step down in gearing so I didn't go
there,
> maybe should have. Sound normal? I guess it's time to pull the plug and
do a
> compression test. The rest of the ride power felt normal again. > > The fun part of the ride was from I-5 west on Frazier Mtn. Park Rd. to
Cuddy
> Valley Rd. to Mil Potrero Rd. to Cerro Noroeste Rd. to 166 west to 33
south
> to Ventura. 33 is straight but scenic at its northern end then it got
twisty
> and even more scenic through Wheeler Gorge. Awesome rock formations. I
will
> be returning. Lockwood Valley is a road I skipped and I didn't stop near > often enough for pictures. > >
http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=34.806809&lon=-118.973492&zoom=13&q1=Frazie r%20Park%2C%20CA%2C%2093222
> -- > ian > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map:
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Tom Hayslett
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Post by Tom Hayslett » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:40 pm

I agree. I have a 2002 KLR and live in Bakersfield. I went up the Grapevine (I-5) heading south a couple of weeks ago and it's a steep climb on this side too. Went to Frazier Park and then to the top of the mountain at Pine Mountain Club. My bike is stock gearing and I'm bigger then I should be (250 lbs), never a slowdown. My bike pulled the climb in 5th, 65-70 all the way and I still had throttle left to pass others going up the hill. Tom From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RobertWichert Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:15 PM To: Ian Francisco Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] gasping for breath I could see 60 mph at full throttle in a steep climb at 5,000 feet with a 20-30 mph head wind and a fifteen tooth front sprocket and a stock rear sprocket. Maybe less. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 6/2/2011 11:50 AM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > Anyway, this KLR is a 2000 model with 41k miles on the original rings and > bore. I installed an '05 head at 24k and have been careful to keep the > clearances in spec since. The original head with burned RH exhaust > valve is > sitting in my garage. Anyone want it? The first leg of my trip was > from near > the 10 and 57 up I5 to Frazier Park (SoCal for those who didn't know) > and it > gets steep through there. The KLR pulled like a locomotive up until > the last > two or three miles before Tejon Pass before it drops down into the valley > that is home to residents of Frazier Park. I think the altitude is > somewhere > between 4k and 5k feet so not too high but with that and a strong headwind > the KLR seemed to lose power and slowed down to 60mph in 5th with throttle > wide open. Fourth gear is a large step down in gearing so I didn't go > there, > maybe should have. Sound normal? I guess it's time to pull the plug > and do a > compression test. The rest of the ride power felt normal again. > > The fun part of the ride was from I-5 west on Frazier Mtn. Park Rd. to > Cuddy > Valley Rd. to Mil Potrero Rd. to Cerro Noroeste Rd. to 166 west to 33 > south > to Ventura. 33 is straight but scenic at its northern end then it got > twisty > and even more scenic through Wheeler Gorge. Awesome rock formations. I > will > be returning. Lockwood Valley is a road I skipped and I didn't stop near > often enough for pictures. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Fred Hink
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Post by Fred Hink » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:31 pm

Footpegs are easy to change. Remove one pin and you can go from your stock rubber covered footpegs to a wide dirt bike type. Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: eddie Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:21 PM To: KLR650 list Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] gasping for breath Great write-up, Ian! You sound like the sort that would say to yourself, "I need some lunch" and then ride 200 miles - one way. It's fun, isn't it? ;) Wouldn't be surprised if the altitude coupled with the extra heat in the engine from a long climb contributed to the power loss at altitude. Several years ago, my Honda dealer and I went on a long ride together. His carburetted CBR600F2 was positively anemic at just 5k feet vs. the much lower altitude where it normally runs. I had a good time following his sooty exhausted self on my old Transalp. LOL Speaking of Transalps, they came with nice, rubber covered main footpegs. But, if you removed one small bolt each, the covers slipped off - exposing an off-road style cleated peg. Does the aftermarket have anything like that{Fred?} ? eddie
> [Original Message] > From: Ian Francisco > To: > Date: 6/2/2011 3:02:07 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] gasping for breath > > Got my A14 back together this week and took it for a shakedown cruise. It > went around the block just fine, so I threw it (and myself) into the deep > end of the pool by doing a seven hour, 300 mile loop, including about
three
> hours of slab, some two-lane back roads and some fire road. Survived it > although I was tired and had some neck and shoulder pain the last 100
miles
> or so to go with the saddle soreness. The KLR is a great bike, but you all > know that. I also put on some IMS pegs and understand now why they are > desirable in the dirt and not so much on the freeway. Pretty vibratious!
(is
> that a word?) We'll have to see how my boots hold up. Those teeth are
sharp!
> I used an older pair of boots for yesterday's ride. I wear shin guards but > still wonder what those pegs could do to my legs in an accident. > > Anyway, this KLR is a 2000 model with 41k miles on the original rings and > bore. I installed an '05 head at 24k and have been careful to keep the > clearances in spec since. The original head with burned RH exhaust valve
is
> sitting in my garage. Anyone want it? The first leg of my trip was from
near
> the 10 and 57 up I5 to Frazier Park (SoCal for those who didn't know) and
it
> gets steep through there. The KLR pulled like a locomotive up until the
last
> two or three miles before Tejon Pass before it drops down into the valley > that is home to residents of Frazier Park. I think the altitude is
somewhere
> between 4k and 5k feet so not too high but with that and a strong headwind > the KLR seemed to lose power and slowed down to 60mph in 5th with throttle > wide open. Fourth gear is a large step down in gearing so I didn't go
there,
> maybe should have. Sound normal? I guess it's time to pull the plug and
do a
> compression test. The rest of the ride power felt normal again. > > The fun part of the ride was from I-5 west on Frazier Mtn. Park Rd. to
Cuddy
> Valley Rd. to Mil Potrero Rd. to Cerro Noroeste Rd. to 166 west to 33
south
> to Ventura. 33 is straight but scenic at its northern end then it got
twisty
> and even more scenic through Wheeler Gorge. Awesome rock formations. I
will
> be returning. Lockwood Valley is a road I skipped and I didn't stop near > often enough for pictures. > >
http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=34.806809&lon=-118.973492&zoom=13&q1=Frazie r%20Park%2C%20CA%2C%2093222
> -- > ian > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map:
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exidyboy
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which tool in standard tookit fits 10mm engine sprocket cover flange

Post by exidyboy » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:15 pm

Hello again from Melbourne, Australia. I am fitting a new chain and sprockets to my 100,000Km plus Tengai. About the only routine maintenance on the bike that I have trouble doing with my somewhat agricultural Sidchrome 1/2 inch drive socket set is accessing the top 10mm flange bolt to remove the engine sprocket cover. A 1/2 square drive 10mm socket interferes with the channel in the cover and can't approach the bolt head square on. While pondering whether this provides a good excuse to finally get a nice 1/4 or 3/8 drive socket set (or a tube spanner, 1/4 drive T-handle like the folding one from Motion Pro, 10mm nut spinner etc) I became curious about which tool in the standard toolkit, which I don't have, is supposed to be used to remove this bolt as the parts list fiche shows the only candidates as: 92110-1131 TOOL-WRENCH,BOX,12MM or TOOL-WRENCH,OPEN END,10X12 I can't imagine you could fit a 10mm open ended spanner onto the bolt so is the 12mm box wrench (tube spanner) actually 12mm on one end and 10mm on the other ? I hope you find this question as fascinating I do :-) All the best, Mike

Ian Francisco
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Post by Ian Francisco » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:27 pm

Hmm. I think I'll be putting the rubber pegs back on for everyday riding. I'm pretty slow in the dirt anyway and run K761s. I like my shins just the way they are and they already have a scar or two.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Buddy Seifert wrote: > I was a ff/medic for way too long. I found out this very list from Stu > Mumford in 2001 at the scene of a KLR versus a rock. The riders leg, I > don't remember which, had the skin totally removed and there was a set of > deep gouges in his tibia (shin bone) that matched the teeth of his serrated > foot peg. The other leg had a few extra hinges. He was in a massive hurt > box. He was riding a borrowed KLR; riding it like he stole it. > Unfortunately, the road turned quicker than he did. > > Buddy > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > > Got my A14 back together this week and took it for a shakedown cruise. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Randall Marbach
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Post by Randall Marbach » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:59 pm

Tech IV motorcycle boots with stock footpeg rubber in the rain is a recipe for death.. they are slicker than goose snot. Randy from Burbank
--- On Thu, 6/2/11, Ian Francisco wrote: From: Ian Francisco Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] gasping for breath To: "Buddy Seifert" , DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 6:27 PM Hmm. I think I'll be putting the rubber pegs back on for everyday riding. I'm pretty slow in the dirt anyway and run K761s. I like my shins just the way they are and they already have a scar or two. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Buddy Seifert wrote: > I was a ff/medic for way too long. I found out this very list from Stu > Mumford in 2001 at the scene of a KLR versus a rock. The riders leg, I > don't remember which, had the skin totally removed and there was a set of > deep gouges in his tibia (shin bone) that matched the teeth of his serrated > foot peg. The other leg had a few extra hinges. He was in a massive hurt > box. He was riding a borrowed KLR; riding it like he stole it. > Unfortunately, the road turned quicker than he did. > > Buddy > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > > Got my A14 back together this week and took it for a shakedown cruise. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

revmaaatin
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Post by revmaaatin » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:09 am

Ian- You did well when you selected the IMS pegs. I would use a serrated foot peg even if the KLR NEVER was going to see a fire road, etal. Contrary to what you suggest, I (as well as others reporting here)found the serrated foot pegs less buzzy than the OEM rubber ones. shrug. Make sure ALL your engine mount bolts are properly torqued (Don't forget the one under the tank!) The very first thing any KLR should have changed is the foot pegs. The rubber ones are slick as snot when wet and worse if muddy. RANT switch-ON If you EVER will ride in the rain or even the slightest mud, do your self a big favor and keep the improved foot pegs. If you ever stand on a wet rubber foot peg and have your foot slide off, you will know what I mean--if there is a next time. I am so adamant about the dangers of a rubber foot peg on a DS bike--if you show up to ride with me with rubber foot pegs, I ain't going with you. RANT switch-OFF. The less expensive route (than IMS pegs)are the DR650 pegs; they come in both wide and narrow. Wide is less 'wide' than your present IMS and less aggressive teeth. I now have the DR 650 narrow, the DR 650 wide and the IMS pegs (X2) on four different bikes. Just installed the wide pegs on my new to me 2004. I did one, my 15 y/o son did the other in less than 10 minutes total. Here are the part numbers from my personal archive/file; please verify on a fiche. smile. The basic number is correct; there may be an additional suffex change. I suspect FRED has these in stock. smile. DR650--foot pegs 'Wide' part numbers 43550-14D30 43560-14D30 'Narrow' 43550-44B10-019 - RH Peg 43560-44B10-019 - LH peg 09448-15008 - spring, need 2 of them The wider the peg, the easier to stand on the pegs for extended time. The wider the peg, the more difficult to shift with MX boots (yes, even after adjustments). The wider peg moves your foot-arch (aft) and thus moves the rotation point of your boot in relation to the shifter. ymmv. revmaaatin.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ian Francisco wrote: > > Hmm. I think I'll be putting the rubber pegs back on for everyday riding. > I'm pretty slow in the dirt anyway and run K761s. I like my shins just the > way they are and they already have a scar or two. > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Buddy Seifert wrote: > > > I was a ff/medic for way too long. I found out this very list from Stu > > Mumford in 2001 at the scene of a KLR versus a rock. The riders leg, I > > don't remember which, had the skin totally removed and there was a set of > > deep gouges in his tibia (shin bone) that matched the teeth of his serrated > > foot peg. The other leg had a few extra hinges. He was in a massive hurt > > box. He was riding a borrowed KLR; riding it like he stole it. > > Unfortunately, the road turned quicker than he did. > > > > Buddy > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > > > > Got my A14 back together this week and took it for a shakedown cruise. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

Fred Hink
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Post by Fred Hink » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:53 am

There is less room under your shift-toe with wider footpegs and so that is why Moose has the Offset footpegs. The KLR is pretty close quarters under the shifter anyway and with a wider footpeg, there is even less. I d recommend going with the Moose Offset Footpegs for anyone with a size 10 or larger boot. yes, ymmv Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: revmaaatin Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:08 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: gasping for breath The wider the peg, the easier to stand on the pegs for extended time. The wider the peg, the more difficult to shift with MX boots (yes, even after adjustments). The wider peg moves your foot-arch (aft) and thus moves the rotation point of your boot in relation to the shifter. ymmv. revmaaatin. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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