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I didn't get a chance to do any troubleshooting as I had to get to
work, but here's the skinny:
A14 with new battery, been running like a champ. Went to start this
morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged.
Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. Both
neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come back
on with key in "on" position. Seems to me like the bike is acting like
the kill switch is still in the "off" position. Any ideas? Thanks!
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If the lights went out it's purely electrical. Undo your battery
connectors, clean them, and retighten. It's probably just a loose
connection.
Check the battery with a volt meter, or hook it up directly to another
12v source (like your car). Just make sure the engine of your car is
OFF as the alternator will put way too much juice through those jumper
cables.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "vospertw" wrote: > > I didn't get a chance to do any troubleshooting as I had to get to > work, but here's the skinny: > > A14 with new battery, been running like a champ. Went to start this > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged. > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. Both > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come back > on with key in "on" position. Seems to me like the bike is acting like > the kill switch is still in the "off" position. Any ideas? Thanks! >
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On Nov 18, 2005, at 7:27 AM, vospertw wrote:
I hate to be happy at someone else's misfortune, but "yea!" I've had the same darn thing happen to me and I couldn't figure out for sure what the problem was. I was trying to leave my girlfriend's place and go back home, all suited up and ready to ride. Hit the starter, hear a very short crank, and *poof* the headlight and indicator lights went out and it seemed like the bike was dead. Grumpy girlfriend has to drive me home late at night. I figured I'd blown the main fuse, but the next day when I was trying to fix it the fuse was fine. In fact, the lights came back on when I turned the key, even though the engine still wouldn't crank. I took the cover off of the starter relay, cleaned up the molex connector and put some dielectric grease on it, and the bike would crank again. That's been around six months ago that I did that "fix" and the symptoms haven't come back. But, I still don't understand why all the lights went out initially, or what made them functional by morning. And that annoys me. -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> San Jose, CA (USA)> Went to start this > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged. > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. Both > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come back > on with key in "on" position.
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Electrical problems are real funny. They never go away, they just get
evasive. If you don't find them, they come back to haunt you. I had my
airhead go dead in the middle of a trip, wiggled the wires and off we went.
It happened again, and wiggle the wires, off we go. Then it happened. Half
way to B.F.Iowa, went dead and wiggling the wires did nothing. tugging did
nothing and cussing didn't heop either. A bit of logic and the main fuse
diagram located the problem to a corroded main lug. Ini your case you may
have found the culprit. I've had a similar jproblem but traced it to a
bumped safety switch.
>From: Blake Sobiloff >To: "vospertw" >CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Problem Starting >Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:08:00 -0800 > >On Nov 18, 2005, at 7:27 AM, vospertw wrote: > > Went to start this > > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged. > > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. Both > > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come back > > on with key in "on" position. > >I hate to be happy at someone else's misfortune, but "yea!" I've had >the same darn thing happen to me and I couldn't figure out for sure >what the problem was. I was trying to leave my girlfriend's place and >go back home, all suited up and ready to ride. Hit the starter, hear >a very short crank, and *poof* the headlight and indicator lights >went out and it seemed like the bike was dead. Grumpy girlfriend has >to drive me home late at night. > >I figured I'd blown the main fuse, but the next day when I was trying >to fix it the fuse was fine. In fact, the lights came back on when I >turned the key, even though the engine still wouldn't crank. I took >the cover off of the starter relay, cleaned up the molex connector >and put some dielectric grease on it, and the bike would crank again. > >That's been around six months ago that I did that "fix" and the >symptoms haven't come back. But, I still don't understand why all the >lights went out initially, or what made them functional by morning. >And that annoys me. >-- >Blake Sobiloff >http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> >San Jose, CA (USA) > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
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Thanks for the help, folks. Always start with the easiest solution,
right? Sure enough, positive terminal connection to the battery was
loose. Wish I would have thought of that this morning... lost a nice
day to ride to work.
Todd
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski"
wrote:
get> > Electrical problems are real funny. They never go away, they just
had my> evasive. If you don't find them, they come back to haunt you. I
we went.> airhead go dead in the middle of a trip, wiggled the wires and off
happened. Half> It happened again, and wiggle the wires, off we go. Then it
tugging did> way to B.F.Iowa, went dead and wiggling the wires did nothing.
main fuse> nothing and cussing didn't heop either. A bit of logic and the
you may> diagram located the problem to a corroded main lug. Ini your case
to a> have found the culprit. I've had a similar jproblem but traced it
disengaged.> bumped safety switch. > > > >From: Blake Sobiloff > >To: "vospertw" > >CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Problem Starting > >Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:08:00 -0800 > > > >On Nov 18, 2005, at 7:27 AM, vospertw wrote: > > > Went to start this > > > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch
nothing. Both> > > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then
come back> > > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not
had> > > on with key in "on" position. > > > >I hate to be happy at someone else's misfortune, but "yea!" I've
sure> >the same darn thing happen to me and I couldn't figure out for
and> >what the problem was. I was trying to leave my girlfriend's place
hear> >go back home, all suited up and ready to ride. Hit the starter,
has> >a very short crank, and *poof* the headlight and indicator lights > >went out and it seemed like the bike was dead. Grumpy girlfriend
trying> >to drive me home late at night. > > > >I figured I'd blown the main fuse, but the next day when I was
when I> >to fix it the fuse was fine. In fact, the lights came back on
took> >turned the key, even though the engine still wouldn't crank. I
again.> >the cover off of the starter relay, cleaned up the molex connector > >and put some dielectric grease on it, and the bike would crank
the> > > >That's been around six months ago that I did that "fix" and the > >symptoms haven't come back. But, I still don't understand why all
morning.> >lights went out initially, or what made them functional by
> >And that annoys me. > >-- > >Blake Sobiloff > >http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > >San Jose, CA (USA) > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Remember, the fuse under the seat is for the headlight .. the bike
will still run and function properly. If your lights and going on and
off and your starter just clicks check the battery terminals and then
check the solenoid and you grounds.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "vospertw" wrote: > > Thanks for the help, folks. Always start with the easiest solution, > right? Sure enough, positive terminal connection to the battery was > loose. Wish I would have thought of that this morning... lost a nice > day to ride to work. > > Todd > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" > wrote: > > > > Electrical problems are real funny. They never go away, they just > get > > evasive. If you don't find them, they come back to haunt you. I > had my > > airhead go dead in the middle of a trip, wiggled the wires and off > we went. > > It happened again, and wiggle the wires, off we go. Then it > happened. Half > > way to B.F.Iowa, went dead and wiggling the wires did nothing. > tugging did > > nothing and cussing didn't heop either. A bit of logic and the > main fuse > > diagram located the problem to a corroded main lug. Ini your case > you may > > have found the culprit. I've had a similar jproblem but traced it > to a > > bumped safety switch. > > > > > > >From: Blake Sobiloff > > >To: "vospertw" > > >CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Problem Starting > > >Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:08:00 -0800 > > > > > >On Nov 18, 2005, at 7:27 AM, vospertw wrote: > > > > Went to start this > > > > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch > disengaged. > > > > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then > nothing. Both > > > > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not > come back > > > > on with key in "on" position. > > > > > >I hate to be happy at someone else's misfortune, but "yea!" I've > had > > >the same darn thing happen to me and I couldn't figure out for > sure > > >what the problem was. I was trying to leave my girlfriend's place > and > > >go back home, all suited up and ready to ride. Hit the starter, > hear > > >a very short crank, and *poof* the headlight and indicator lights > > >went out and it seemed like the bike was dead. Grumpy girlfriend > has > > >to drive me home late at night. > > > > > >I figured I'd blown the main fuse, but the next day when I was > trying > > >to fix it the fuse was fine. In fact, the lights came back on > when I > > >turned the key, even though the engine still wouldn't crank. I > took > > >the cover off of the starter relay, cleaned up the molex connector > > >and put some dielectric grease on it, and the bike would crank > again. > > > > > >That's been around six months ago that I did that "fix" and the > > >symptoms haven't come back. But, I still don't understand why all > the > > >lights went out initially, or what made them functional by > morning. > > >And that annoys me. > > >-- > > >Blake Sobiloff > > >http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > > >San Jose, CA (USA) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Glenn,
You made a comment about making sure the engine of the car is off as the
alternator will put way to much juice through the jumper cables. I agree
with the make sure the engine is off part but I believe you are incorrect
about the reason. The cables will handle everything the alternator will
put out and way more. The vehicle being jumped will only take what it
requires. The reason to have the engine of the jumping vehicle off is to
keep from frying electrics in either vehicle. The battery of the jumping
vehicle if in good condition will have all the power required to start
the jumped vehicle and then start the jumping vehicle once the cables are
disconnected.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:38:11 -0000 "Glenn" writes:
> If the lights went out it's purely electrical. Undo your battery > connectors, clean them, and retighten. It's probably just a loose > connection. > > Check the battery with a volt meter, or hook it up directly to > another > 12v source (like your car). Just make sure the engine of your car is > > OFF as the alternator will put way too much juice through those > jumper > cables. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "vospertw" > wrote: > > > > I didn't get a chance to do any troubleshooting as I had to get to > > > work, but here's the skinny: > > > > A14 with new battery, been running like a champ. Went to start > this > > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged. > > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. > Both > > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come > back > > on with key in "on" position. Seems to me like the bike is acting > > like > > the kill switch is still in the "off" position. Any ideas? > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
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That's precisley what I meant, just not in so many words.
'through the cables' to the charging system potentially causing
damage.
A direct jump from the battery with the engine off is the only safe
way to do it. When a bike is "jumped" by a car and the engine is left
running the rectifier/regulator on the bike will begin
to heat up from all the excessive current and that could very easily
fry it if connected for more than a few seconds.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Glenn, > > You made a comment about making sure the engine of the car is off as the > alternator will put way to much juice through the jumper cables. I agree > with the make sure the engine is off part but I believe you are incorrect > about the reason. The cables will handle everything the alternator will > put out and way more. The vehicle being jumped will only take what it > requires. The reason to have the engine of the jumping vehicle off is to > keep from frying electrics in either vehicle. The battery of the jumping > vehicle if in good condition will have all the power required to start > the jumped vehicle and then start the jumping vehicle once the cables are > disconnected. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:38:11 -0000 "Glenn" writes: > > If the lights went out it's purely electrical. Undo your battery > > connectors, clean them, and retighten. It's probably just a loose > > connection. > > > > Check the battery with a volt meter, or hook it up directly to > > another > > 12v source (like your car). Just make sure the engine of your car is > > > > OFF as the alternator will put way too much juice through those > > jumper > > cables. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "vospertw" > > wrote: > > > > > > I didn't get a chance to do any troubleshooting as I had to get to > > > > > work, but here's the skinny: > > > > > > A14 with new battery, been running like a champ. Went to start > > this > > > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged. > > > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. > > Both > > > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come > > back > > > on with key in "on" position. Seems to me like the bike is acting > > > > like > > > the kill switch is still in the "off" position. Any ideas? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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I just acquired my dad's KLR and it won't start unless it is in
neutral and the clutch is disengaged. Is there a faulty switch
somewhere that is preventing the bike from starting when the bike is
in gear and the clutch is engaged? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Marshall
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Marshall wrote:
This tells you how to bypass the kickstand safety: http://www.klr650.marknet.us/safetyswitch.html You may also be able to fix it by adjusting the SPDT switch at the base of the clutch lever. -- Doug Herr doug@...> I just acquired my dad's KLR and it won't start unless it is in > neutral and the clutch is disengaged. Is there a faulty switch > somewhere that is preventing the bike from starting when the bike is > in gear and the clutch is engaged? Any help would be appreciated.
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