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Jeff Khoury · Post by **Jeff Khoury** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:10 pm

#ygrps-yiv-1757045993 p {margin:0;}It's an old-school way race car mechanics have been tuning multiple-carb setups (usually Webers) on old British and Japanese road-race cars. Essentially it is a spark plug with a clear glass top, a tube and a mirror. You install the plug in place of your normal one, set it up and start the engine. Put it under a bit of load and look at the color of the flame. If it is a cool blue color, you're good. If it is white, too lean. If it is yellow, too rich. Here's a quick primer: http://www.gadgetjq.com/ctune.htm -Jeff Khoury [b]From: [/b]"mark ward" [b]To: [/b]"DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>, "Jeff Khoury" [b]Sent: [/b]Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:40:50 AM [b]Subject: [/b]Re: [DSN_KLR650] What's the best approach for add'l HP on a KLR650 without rejetting? OK an "OLD GUY" has to ask....WHAT is a "colortune" kit?

--- On [b]Tue, 1/18/11, Jeff Khoury [i][/i][/b] wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] What's the best approach for add'l HP on a KLR650 without rejetting? To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 4:30 PM If you change any of those things you will need to re-jet, or your mixture will be too lean. This will lead to popping ("backfiring") on deceleration, increased temperature and possibly valve overheating. You may also LOSE performance and horsepower. Every time you change ANYTHING that affects the restriction of either the intake or exhaust, you need to re-jet to make sure you are getting the proper stochiometric mixture. I use a "Color Tune" kit. -Jeff Khoury [b]From: [/b]"notanymoore" [b]To: [/b]"DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent: [/b]Monday, January 17, 2011 8:37:28 PM [b]Subject: [/b][DSN_KLR650] What's the best approach for add'l HP on a KLR650 without rejetting? What's the best approach for add'l HP on a KLR650 without rejetting? K&N airfilter? Muffler replacement? If so, what kind? I live in the midwest so airflow affecting carburator at altitude is not a big concern.

SM · Post by SM » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:56 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote:

> > The BMW specifications say 42 hp and the KLR specifications say 44 hp, > so not much different. > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 >

What? Where do the KLR specs say 44 hp?

> > ======================================================== > > > On 1/18/2011 8:45 AM, Jim Douglas wrote: > > > > As I am a total engine retard (I know not PC), why do some 650CC > > engines put out so much more HP > > that the little 32HP of the KLR? For example an older BMW 650FS has > > like 48-50HP? > > > > I know it's probably a stupid questions, but...................

Compression, ignition timing, cam profile and timing, freer flowing head.... The KLR motor is tuned for low cost, low stress, and durability. It's a tractor, not a testastretta. There is no free lunch. Forget about max HP, to make the KLR a more enjoyable bike to ride, fix the air screw and do the 22 cent mod, and don't monkey with the jetting. No loss in reliability, no loss in mpg, and a user-friendly torque curve await. I also prefer a 14 tooth front sprocket for more zip, but that's just me. Thanks CA Stu A13

revmaaatin · Post by **revmaaatin** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:43 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "notanymoore" wrote:

> > What's the best approach for add'l HP on a KLR650 without rejetting? K&N airfilter? Muffler replacement? If so, what kind? I live in the midwest so airflow affecting carburator at altitude is not a big concern. >

Oh brother- Answer D: None of the above Wouldn't an oil thread question be easier to answer? which by the way is Rotella. cough. 60's/70's Muscle cars are your answer here. Add cubes, you add HP. maybe. Or it might be the other bike with 3-letters. Orange or BMW blue. Choose Orange or Blue, then you: Bring plenty of 'green' to the discussion. revmaaatin.

mark ward · Post by **mark ward** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:36 am

Oil? did someone SAY OIL??? peanut is My vote for wingdings. .....LOL

--- On [b]Wed, 1/19/11, revmaaatin [i][/i][/b] wrote: From: revmaaatin Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: What's the best approach for add'l HP on a KLR650 without rejetting? To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 6:43 AM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "notanymoore" wrote: > > What's the best approach for add'l HP on a KLR650 without rejetting? K&N airfilter? Muffler replacement? If so, what kind? I live in the midwest so airflow affecting carburator at altitude is not a big concern. > Oh brother- Answer D: None of the above Wouldn't an oil thread question be easier to answer? which by the way is Rotella. cough. 60's/70's Muscle cars are your answer here. Add cubes, you add HP. maybe. Or it might be the other bike with 3-letters. Orange or BMW blue. Choose Orange or Blue, then you: Bring plenty of 'green' to the discussion. revmaaatin.

Fred Hink · Post by **Fred Hink** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:39 am

Did anyone ever win Ben Stu s Money ? (search the archives) Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com [b]From:[/b] s2mumford@... [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:56 PM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: What's the best approach for add'l HP on a KLR650 without rejetting? --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote:

> > The BMW specifications

say 42 hp and the KLR specifications say 44 hp,

> so not much

different.

> > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1

916 966 9060

> FAX +1 916 966 9068 >

What? Where do the KLR specs say 44 hp?

> >

========================================================

> > > On 1/18/2011 8:45 AM, Jim Douglas wrote: > > > > As I

am a total engine retard (I know not PC), why do some 650CC

> >

engines put out so much more HP

> > that the little 32HP of the KLR?

For example an older BMW 650FS has

> > like 48-50HP? > > > > I know it's probably a stupid questions,

but................... Compression, ignition timing, cam profile and timing, freer flowing head.... The KLR motor is tuned for low cost, low stress, and durability. It's a tractor, not a testastretta. There is no free lunch. Forget about max HP, to make the KLR a more enjoyable bike to ride, fix the air screw and do the 22 cent mod, and don't monkey with the jetting. No loss in reliability, no loss in mpg, and a user-friendly torque curve await. I also prefer a 14 tooth front sprocket for more zip, but that's just me. Thanks CA Stu A13

guymanbro · Post by **guymanbro** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:05 am

Still up for grabs as far as I know... Is it true, Stu? da Vermonster

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote: > > Did anyone ever win Ben Stu s Money ? (search the archives) > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > > From: SM > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:56 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: What's the best approach for add'l HP on a KLR650 without rejetting? > > > > > --- In mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > > > The BMW specifications say 42 hp and the KLR specifications say 44 hp, > > so not much different. > > > > > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > > +1 916 966 9060 > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > What? Where do the KLR specs say 44 hp? > > > > > ======================================================== > > > > > > On 1/18/2011 8:45 AM, Jim Douglas wrote: > > > > > > As I am a total engine retard (I know not PC), why do some 650CC > > > engines put out so much more HP > > > that the little 32HP of the KLR? For example an older BMW 650FS has > > > like 48-50HP? > > > > > > I know it's probably a stupid questions, but................... > > Compression, ignition timing, cam profile and timing, freer flowing head.... > > The KLR motor is tuned for low cost, low stress, and durability. > It's a tractor, not a testastretta. > > There is no free lunch. > Forget about max HP, to make the KLR a more enjoyable bike to ride, fix the air screw and do the 22 cent mod, and don't monkey with the jetting. > No loss in reliability, no loss in mpg, and a user-friendly torque curve await. > I also prefer a 14 tooth front sprocket for more zip, but that's just me. > > Thanks > CA Stu A13 >

SM · Post by SM » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:09 am

Still got my $50.... *Offer not valid on 2008 and later models.

Stu PS Where is John Lyon these days?

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "guymanbro" wrote: > > Still up for grabs as far as I know... > > Is it true, Stu? > > da Vermonster > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote: > > > > Did anyone ever win Ben Stu s Money ? (search the archives) > > > > Fred > > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > >

Fred Hink · Post by **Fred Hink** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:51 am

John is safe and sound working in New Orleans. You might try the airport there. Anyone know why my computer or Yahoo is putting out these weird symbols when I type quotes or parenthesis? (Like this) Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com [b]From:[/b] s2mumford@... [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:08 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: What's the best approach for add'l HP on a KLR650 without rejetting? Still got my $50.... *Offer not valid on 2008 and later models.

Stu PS Where is John Lyon these days? --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "guymanbro" wrote:

> > Still up for grabs as

far as I know...

> > Is it true, Stu? > > da

Vermonster

> > --- In

href="mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com">mailto:DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote:

> > > > Did anyone ever win

Ben Stu s Money ? (search the archives)

> > > >

Fred

> > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > >

RobertWichert · Post by **RobertWichert** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:38 pm

http://www.mbike.com/kawasaki/klr650/2006 http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/kawasaki/2006-kawasaki-klr650-ar1955.html Both say 42 HP at the crank, of course. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================

On 1/18/2011 7:56 PM, SM wrote: --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert robert@... wrote: > > The BMW specifications say 42 hp and the KLR specifications say 44 hp, > so not much different. > > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > What? Where do the KLR specs say 44 hp? > > ======================================================== > > > On 1/18/2011 8:45 AM, Jim Douglas wrote: > > > > As I am a total engine retard (I know not PC), why do some 650CC > > engines put out so much more HP > > that the little 32HP of the KLR? For example an older BMW 650FS has > > like 48-50HP? > > > > I know it's probably a stupid questions, but................... Compression, ignition timing, cam profile and timing, freer flowing head.... The KLR motor is tuned for low cost, low stress, and durability. It's a tractor, not a testastretta. There is no free lunch. Forget about max HP, to make the KLR a more enjoyable bike to ride, fix the air screw and do the 22 cent mod, and don't monkey with the jetting. No loss in reliability, no loss in mpg, and a user-friendly torque curve await. I also prefer a 14 tooth front sprocket for more zip, but that's just me. Thanks CA Stu A13

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