jet sizes - kawi vs dynojet

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fw189uhu
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no starting juice after mods -- wtf?

Post by fw189uhu » Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:28 pm

Apparently I've done something silly (or stupid). Can't start my '09 KLR650 after I installed the mods listed below. The bike was starting OK when I rode it into my garage several weeks ago to begin this long list of mods. Now the starter will not kick over when the start button is pushed (kill switch is on). Literally nothing happens when I press the start button. Ignition turned on, lights on, choke on, etc., but nothing happens. Currently the bike is raised very slightly (tires barely touching the garage floor) on my motorcycle lift. Could that cause these symptoms? I DO have headlights (brights and dims; brights very bright so battery should be charged OK), horn, turn signals, and all the fuses I can find (under seat and inside kickstand switch cover) are OK. Here are the mods I installed: Ricor IAS shock Ricor Vibranators Happy-Trail PD Nerf Engine Protectors Happy-Trail SU Side Carrier Racks McDonalds Heavy Duty Shifter Moose Onyx SS 1/2" backset foot pegs Happy-Trail rear master cylinder protector Happy-Trail skid plate Dual-Star Subframe Upgrade Zeta Armor Handguards (Intiminators and Sonic fork springs next, after I get this electrical issue ironed out) (Yes, I had a very good Christmas, thank you!) My guess is that I've done something to the starter circuit, but darned if I can tell what I did. Suggestions? Thanks much. Dave (Lotsa new toys and burnin' to ride . . .)

Jim Douglas
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no starting juice after mods -- wtf?

Post by Jim Douglas » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:00 pm

Did the tank come off? As other than that don't see anything that within the upgrades that caused this. The kickstand safety switch messed up?  Someone else will chrip in so you can get it going again. I hate when I work on something, spend hours, get it all back together (I think correctly) and it does not work!
On 1/2/2011 4:27 PM, fw189uhu wrote:   Apparently I've done something silly (or stupid). Can't start my '09 KLR650 after I installed the mods listed below. The bike was starting OK when I rode it into my garage several weeks ago to begin this long list of mods. Now the starter will not kick over when the start button is pushed (kill switch is on). Literally nothing happens when I press the start button. Ignition turned on, lights on, choke on, etc., but nothing happens. Currently the bike is raised very slightly (tires barely touching the garage floor) on my motorcycle lift. Could that cause these symptoms? I DO have headlights (brights and dims; brights very bright so battery should be charged OK), horn, turn signals, and all the fuses I can find (under seat and inside kickstand switch cover) are OK. Here are the mods I installed: Ricor IAS shock Ricor Vibranators Happy-Trail PD Nerf Engine Protectors Happy-Trail SU Side Carrier Racks McDonalds Heavy Duty Shifter Moose Onyx SS 1/2" backset foot pegs Happy-Trail rear master cylinder protector Happy-Trail skid plate Dual-Star Subframe Upgrade Zeta Armor Handguards (Intiminators and Sonic fork springs next, after I get this electrical issue ironed out) (Yes, I had a very good Christmas, thank you!) My guess is that I've done something to the starter circuit, but darned if I can tell what I did. Suggestions? Thanks much. Dave (Lotsa new toys and burnin' to ride . . .)

Jeff Saline
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no starting juice after mods -- wtf?

Post by Jeff Saline » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:27 pm

On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:27:45 -0000 "fw189uhu" writes:
> Apparently I've done something silly (or stupid). > > Can't start my '09 KLR650 after I installed the mods listed below. > The bike was starting OK when I rode it into my garage several weeks > ago to begin this long list of mods. > > Now the starter will not kick over when the start button is pushed > (kill switch is on). Literally nothing happens when I press the > start button. Ignition turned on, lights on, choke on, etc., but > nothing happens. Currently the bike is raised very slightly (tires > barely touching the garage floor) on my motorcycle lift. Could that > cause these symptoms? > > I DO have headlights (brights and dims; brights very bright so > battery should be charged OK), horn, turn signals, and all the fuses > I can find (under seat and inside kickstand switch cover) are OK. > > Here are the mods I installed: > > Ricor IAS shock > Ricor Vibranators > Happy-Trail PD Nerf Engine Protectors > Happy-Trail SU Side Carrier Racks > McDonalds Heavy Duty Shifter > Moose Onyx SS 1/2" backset foot pegs > Happy-Trail rear master cylinder protector > Happy-Trail skid plate > Dual-Star Subframe Upgrade > Zeta Armor Handguards > > (Intiminators and Sonic fork springs next, after I get this > electrical issue ironed out) > > (Yes, I had a very good Christmas, thank you!) > > My guess is that I've done something to the starter circuit, but > darned if I can tell what I did. Suggestions? > > Thanks much. > > Dave
<><><><><><> <><><><><><> Dave, Any chance the newer models have a clutch switch that's affecting the starter operation? On the earlier models I'm pretty sure the stock configuration requires the transmission to be in neutral or the clutch pulled in for the starter button to operate. Since you messed with installing handguards maybe the clutch switch if your model has one got knocked out of whack. Same for the shifter... could it not be in neutral??? Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . . ____________________________________________________________ 1 Tip for Losing Weight Cut down 2 lbs per week by using this 1 weird old tip http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d21260182f73a8ee4dst01vuc

Dave Klaus
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no starting juice after mods -- wtf?

Post by Dave Klaus » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:38 pm

Eureka! Occam's Razor & Sherlock Holmes at their best: when all the "impossible" has been eliminated, that which remains, no matter how improbable, must be the answer--AND it was probably the simplest thing to begin with. Yes, the transmission was knocked into first gear, which I should have noticed by the absence of the green "neutral" light. Put 'er in neutral and she started right up. I figured I was doing something sillly! Thanks, Jeff, for your eye-opener. Whew! Dave ps Now to get the Intiminators and Sonic springs installed before I run out of steam tonight!
On Jan 2, 2011, at 8:24 PM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:27:45 -0000 "fw189uhu" > writes: >> Apparently I've done something silly (or stupid). >> >> Can't start my '09 KLR650 after I installed the mods listed below. >> The bike was starting OK when I rode it into my garage several weeks >> ago to begin this long list of mods. >> >> Now the starter will not kick over when the start button is pushed >> (kill switch is on). Literally nothing happens when I press the >> start button. Ignition turned on, lights on, choke on, etc., but >> nothing happens. Currently the bike is raised very slightly (tires >> barely touching the garage floor) on my motorcycle lift. Could that >> cause these symptoms? >> >> I DO have headlights (brights and dims; brights very bright so >> battery should be charged OK), horn, turn signals, and all the fuses >> I can find (under seat and inside kickstand switch cover) are OK. >> >> Here are the mods I installed: >> >> Ricor IAS shock >> Ricor Vibranators >> Happy-Trail PD Nerf Engine Protectors >> Happy-Trail SU Side Carrier Racks >> McDonalds Heavy Duty Shifter >> Moose Onyx SS 1/2" backset foot pegs >> Happy-Trail rear master cylinder protector >> Happy-Trail skid plate >> Dual-Star Subframe Upgrade >> Zeta Armor Handguards >> >> (Intiminators and Sonic fork springs next, after I get this >> electrical issue ironed out) >> >> (Yes, I had a very good Christmas, thank you!) >> >> My guess is that I've done something to the starter circuit, but >> darned if I can tell what I did. Suggestions? >> >> Thanks much. >> >> Dave > <><><><><><> > <><><><><><> > > Dave, > > Any chance the newer models have a clutch switch that's affecting the > starter operation? On the earlier models I'm pretty sure the stock > configuration requires the transmission to be in neutral or the clutch > pulled in for the starter button to operate. Since you messed with > installing handguards maybe the clutch switch if your model has one > got > knocked out of whack. Same for the shifter... could it not be in > neutral??? > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > . > ____________________________________________________________ > 1 Tip for Losing Weight > Cut down 2 lbs per week by using this 1 weird old tip > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d212601955769eb2c4st06vuc >

dooden
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no starting juice after mods -- wtf?

Post by dooden » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:08 pm

Is your kickstand up or down ? unless bypassed... just a guess. Dooden A15 Green Ape
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fw189uhu" wrote: > > Apparently I've done something silly (or stupid). > > Can't start my '09 KLR650 after I installed the mods listed below. The bike was starting OK when I rode it into my garage several weeks ago to begin this long list of mods. > snip snip snip > My guess is that I've done something to the starter circuit, but darned if I can tell what I did. Suggestions? > > Thanks much. > > Dave > (Lotsa new toys and burnin' to ride . . .) >

Fred Hink
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jet sizes - kawi vs dynojet

Post by Fred Hink » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:47 am

Yes, Dynojet uses a different jet numbering system than anyone else. Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com   [b]From:[/b] subscriptions@... [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, January 03, 2011 7:40 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Jet sizes - Kawi vs Dynojet     In installing the Dynojet kit, the instructions call for using the 136 main jet. This seems awfully small, as the stock is 148. Is there a difference in the numbering system? While that doesn't make sense, nothing surprises me any more :)

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