gas - probably as bad as a oil thread

[Jeff Saline]

"bmrbill" wrote: Jeff, I tried a 16/45 once. The 106L chain was not long enough. As I recall, I also had a new rear tire. That only made it worse. Try what I tried last month- go from a 14/43 to a 16/43 in the same day. I ended up asking myself, "What's really wrong with the 15/43? Nothing." With a 14t, I still can't keep up with my buddy on his CR500 in the dirt. The KLR's suspension bottoms out hard. (Be nice- I'm 5'11", 175lbs) But then, he can't touch me on the pavement, 14t or otherwise. Ride safe, Bill- who needs to order a new 15t to replace the worn out one.

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Bill, Thanks for your comments. I'm not hoping to go fast or out perform anybody. But on my limited riding in the dirt with my KLR with the stock 15/43 set up I wished I'd had lower gearing. It seemed when I was in 1st gear I was having to slip the clutch a bunch or in second gear I was wishing for a 1.5 or 2.5 gear. I'm hoping the lower gearing will be the answer to my wishes. I find my bike just plenty fast enough for me with a 15/43 set up so it's lower gearing that will be the answer. I hope. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[klr6501995]

Yep thats the klr650. I have only played with front sprockets. The 14 is good for the dirt. not for the highway. 16t good for the highway and not for the dirt. 15 is ok on both I agree with your view of feeeling a need for 1.5 or 2.5. One day I will be putting a klr600 first gear into the 650. Don't worry about needing to slip the cluth. I have been in some crazy sand and stuck situations since owning a 86klr250 87klr650 and 95klr650. Never burnt a clutch. One thing about that big 650. I think slipping the cluth is the only way to go. Several 650 singles I been on . well when the motor stalls at that slow crawling speed. It stops you dead in your tracks. Usually in a unbalanced posistion. And down you go.

> > Thanks for your comments. I'm not hoping to go fast or out perform > anybody. But on my limited riding in the dirt with my KLR with the

stock

> 15/43 set up I wished I'd had lower gearing. It seemed when I was

in 1st

> gear I was having to slip the clutch a bunch or in second gear I was > wishing for a 1.5 or 2.5 gear. I'm hoping the lower gearing will

be the

> answer to my wishes. I find my bike just plenty fast enough for me

with

> a 15/43 set up so it's lower gearing that will be the answer. I

hope.

> > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[bmrbill]

I'm not sure, but I thought I once read that the KLR650 clutch came from the KZ900. Supposed to be "indestructable." Can someone more knowledgable than me confirm or refute? Bill

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "klr6501995" wrote: > Yep thats the klr650. I have only played with front sprockets. The 14 > is good for the dirt. not for the highway. > 16t good for the highway and not for the dirt. > 15 is ok on both > I agree with your view of feeeling a need for 1.5 or 2.5. > One day I will be putting a klr600 first gear into the 650. > Don't worry about needing to slip the cluth. I have been in some > crazy sand and stuck situations since owning a 86klr250 87klr650 and > 95klr650. Never burnt a clutch. > One thing about that big 650. I think slipping the cluth is the only > way to go. Several 650 singles I been on . well when the motor stalls > at that slow crawling speed. It stops you dead in your tracks. > Usually in a unbalanced posistion. And down you go. > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. I'm not hoping to go fast or out perform > > anybody. But on my limited riding in the dirt with my KLR with the > stock > > 15/43 set up I wished I'd had lower gearing. It seemed when I was > in 1st > > gear I was having to slip the clutch a bunch or in second gear I was > > wishing for a 1.5 or 2.5 gear. I'm hoping the lower gearing will > be the > > answer to my wishes. I find my bike just plenty fast enough for me > with > > a 15/43 set up so it's lower gearing that will be the answer. I > hope. > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff Saline > > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[takes2serious]

just changing out the stock 15t sprocket for a PBI 16t so I can drop the revs a touch on the superslab, and I notice the stock sprocket has rubber shoulders. I assume these are sprocket specific and that the PBI just mounts up without them, correct? Excuse my ignorance, but I've been street-only prior to this A18 and I've never seen rubber shoulders on a sprocket. Just checking. Randy

[Glen]

mount that 16 tooth it is only the stock one that has the rubber. glenski a14 --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "takes2serious" wrote:

> just changing out the stock 15t sprocket for a PBI 16t so I can

drop

> the revs a touch on the superslab, and I notice the stock sprocket > has rubber shoulders. I assume these are sprocket specific and

that

> the PBI just mounts up without them, correct? > > Excuse my ignorance, but I've been street-only prior to this A18

and

> I've never seen rubber shoulders on a sprocket. Just checking. > > Randy

[Keith Saltzer]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "takes2serious" wrote:

> just changing out the stock 15t sprocket for a PBI 16t so I can

drop

> the revs a touch on the superslab, and I notice the stock sprocket > has rubber shoulders. I assume these are sprocket specific and

that

> the PBI just mounts up without them, correct? > > Excuse my ignorance, but I've been street-only prior to this A18

and

> I've never seen rubber shoulders on a sprocket. Just checking. > > Randy

Yes, you are correct. Just make sure you orientate the new sprocket the right way. BTW, I do not like 16 tooth sprockets on the KLR at all. I have read and heard time and time again about (dropping the rpm's) but I say so what. So the motor is spinning a little faster than you "think" it should be sounding. While your putting your motor at a lower rpm for a given speed, your also losing mpg, because the motor is weaker in that rpm range. Making the motor weaker makes it harder to pass, slower to build speed, harder to climb hills, lowers your top speed, and, of course, is harder on the motor overall. I blasted across the US a few months ago with my 220 lb frame, and 50 lbs of gear averaging 75mph, using the stock 15 tooth sprocket. There were hours upon hours that I did 80+, and hours that I did 68- 72 mph. I never burned more oil either way, (used 1/2 quart in 3000 miles) had all my power on tap when I needed it (which was often) against truck wind blast, side and head winds, hill and mountains, passing etc and it performed flawlessly. The 16 tooth IMHO makes the KLR weaker than it needs to be. Doing the more serious off road stuff does require the 14 tooth though, for easier riding in that terrain. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

[Alan L Henderson]

takes2serious wrote:

> just changing out the stock 15t sprocket for a PBI 16t so I can drop > the revs a touch on the superslab, and I notice the stock sprocket > has rubber shoulders. I assume these are sprocket specific and that > the PBI just mounts up without them, correct? > > Excuse my ignorance, but I've been street-only prior to this A18 and > I've never seen rubber shoulders on a sprocket. Just checking. > > Randy >

The rubber helps the KLR pass the EPA noise test as does the fiberglass that used to be in the last section of your muffler. Alan Henderson A13 Iowa

[takes2serious]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Saltzer" wrote:

> > BTW, I do not like 16 tooth sprockets on the KLR at all. I have

read

> and heard time and time again about (dropping the rpm's) but I say

so

> what. > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

I understand what you're saying and I may not keep it on, but I have a problem with vibration at 5,000 rpms and above. My stocker is fine to 65 mph and then the vibes are too much for long-distance riding for me. I would love to know how much my bike vibratues more than average, if at all, because it's my first single and I have nothing to compare it to. If some 'Vegas rider wants to meet up for a ride one day, and would give me another KLR to compare to, I would be very grateful. So, the reason I'm trying the 16T is to see if I can get a 75mph cruise speed at 4500 rpms or thereabouts. Randy

[takes2serious]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Alan L Henderson wrote:

> The rubber helps the KLR pass the EPA noise test as does the

fiberglass

> that used to be in the last section of your muffler. > Alan Henderson A13 Iowa

Thanks for the quick replies on this guys. I wondered what the rubber was for, as I had not seen it before on my street bikes. I'll bet it does quiet down the chain some. Randy

[squasher_1]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "takes2serious" wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Alan L Henderson > wrote: > > > The rubber helps the KLR pass the EPA noise test as does the > fiberglass > > that used to be in the last section of your muffler. > > Alan Henderson A13 Iowa > > Thanks for the quick replies on this guys. I wondered what the > rubber was for, as I had not seen it before on my street bikes.

I'll

> bet it does quiet down the chain some. > > Randy

My Kawasaki ZR-7s has rubber around the sprocket just like the KLR. maybe it's a Kawi thing