klr versus yam and links

[Chris]

On Tuesday at 5:30pm my beloved Tengai was destroyed when a young man with 6 months (car) driving experience chose to pull out of a side street directly in front of me. Fortunately I was riding at no more than 20-25 mph, and although I did go over the handlebars and the front of his car, my injuries are miraculously fairly minor. Just a whiplash and lots of bruising. Please be careful out there guys, you can take all the precautions in the world but you can't account for that one moment when someone else takes their eye off the ball. Chris

[Eddie]

Dang, Chris! Glad you are relatively unharmed! As they say, bikes can be replaced. People can't. Hang in there and let us know what you end up riding next. eddie

> [Original Message] > From: Chris > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 11/4/2010 4:17:42 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] R.I.P. 1989 Tengai - A moments silence please > > On Tuesday at 5:30pm my beloved Tengai was destroyed when a young man

with 6 months (car) driving experience chose to pull out of a side street directly in front of me.

> > Fortunately I was riding at no more than 20-25 mph, and although I did go

over the handlebars and the front of his car, my injuries are miraculously fairly minor. Just a whiplash and lots of bruising.

> > Please be careful out there guys, you can take all the precautions in the

world but you can't account for that one moment when someone else takes their eye off the ball.

> > Chris > > >

[tengai650@reelrider.com]

Wow... sorry for your loss. Do you still have the bike... or what's left of it? If so, I hope you picked up every bit of the fairing off the road. We can rebuild it. We have the technology! Glad you aren't toast. Mark On Thu Nov 4 4:17 , "Chris" sent:

On Tuesday at 5:30pm my beloved Tengai was destroyed when a young man with 6 months (car) driving experience chose to pull out of a side street directly in front of me. Fortunately I was riding at no more than 20-25 mph, and although I did go over the handlebars and the front of his car, my injuries are miraculously fairly minor. Just a whiplash and lots of bruising. Please be careful out there guys, you can take all the precautions in the world but you can't account for that one moment when someone else takes their eye off the ball. Chris ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo!> Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/join> (Yahoo! ID required) To change settings via email: DSN_KLR650-digest@yahoogroups.com DSN_KLR650-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>

[Stephen Grisanti]

" We can rebuild it. We have the technology!"    Oh, great, a six million dollar KLR.  It had to happen someday.   Sorry about the Tengai.   Stephen

--- On [b]Thu, 11/4/10, tengai650@... [i][/i][/b] wrote:

From: tengai650@... Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] R.I.P. 1989 Tengai - A moments silence please To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 8:37 AM Wow... sorry for your loss. Do you still have the bike... or what's left of it? If so, I hope you picked up every bit of the fairing off the road. We can rebuild it. We have the technology! Glad you aren't toast. Mark On Thu Nov 4 4:17 , "Chris" sent: On Tuesday at 5:30pm my beloved Tengai was destroyed when a young man with 6 months (car) driving experience chose to pull out of a side street directly in front of me. Fortunately I was riding at no more than 20-25 mph, and although I did go over the handlebars and the front of his car, my injuries are miraculously fairly minor. Just a whiplash and lots of bruising. Please be careful out there guys, you can take all the precautions in the world but you can't account for that one moment when someone else takes their eye off the ball. Chris ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo!> Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/join> (Yahoo! ID required) To change settings via email: DSN_KLR650-digest@yahoogroups.com DSN_KLR650-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

That Tengai was the prettiest (KLR). Stupid they quit making it but I guess it didn't sell. Criswell

On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:37 AM, wrote:   Wow... sorry for your loss. Do you still have the bike... or what's left of it? If so, I hope you picked up every bit of the fairing off the road. We can rebuild it. We have the technology! Glad you aren't toast. Mark On Thu Nov 4 4:17 , "Chris" sent: On Tuesday at 5:30pm my beloved Tengai was destroyed when a young man with 6 months (car) driving experience chose to pull out of a side street directly in front of me. Fortunately I was riding at no more than 20-25 mph, and although I did go over the handlebars and the front of his car, my injuries are miraculously fairly minor. Just a whiplash and lots of bruising. Please be careful out there guys, you can take all the precautions in the world but you can't account for that one moment when someone else takes their eye off the ball. Chris ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo!> Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/join> (Yahoo! ID required) To change settings via email: DSN_KLR650-digest@yahoogroups.com DSN_KLR650-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>

[tengai650@reelrider.com]

That's because it was about 7 years ahead of its time.  If they started cranking them out in '96, they'd sell like hotcakes, especially in North America IMO. BTW, some trivia: In 1990, at $3,299 it was $300.00 more than the sticker price of a standard KLR650. Although only *really* available in North America for 2 years ('89-'90, with a few '91 bikes that I think were grey-market or Canada only), they were produced from '89-'94.  Only a few countries got to see all 5 model years. Mark On Thu Nov 4 8:45 , "roncriswell@..." sent:

That Tengai was the prettiest (KLR). Stupid they quit making it but I guess it didn't sell. Criswell

[stuart sullivan]

Thanks for the info on the springs,my seasons done up here in the Great White but will check it out next year.having said that we have no snow on the ground yet and the temps are still quite balmy which is quite weird for this time of the year,my plates are still good for another two weeks so i might have to pull the beast out of hibernation.                                                                          Stu. To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: judjonzz@... Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:31:31 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR versus Yam and links  

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, stuart sullivan wrote: > > > Well put Jud in a nutshell i guess that's what i was trying to say,I'm wondering if a stiffer spring would work for me with the lowering links and what the correct rate would be,anyone have any info on this subject? > I've seen links made out of high end turn buckles so you can adjust from both ends so you could raise the links with weight on and lower them when not,anyone try this? > Stu. > Can't tell you for sure, and it is a bit of a black art to me, but I may be able to help you guess. What do you weigh? if from 180 to 230lb, start with a spring in the 400lb/in range (or in short, a 400lb spring). 240 to 290, try a 500lb spring. That would probably be the spring you would use with stock suspension. Bob Bell recommended a 500-550 progressive spring when he redid my shock. I weigh about 250. With preload on 2, I have just under 3 inches of sag. If I add luggage, it sags to just under 3 1/2''. If I were to lower with links, I figure I could probably hit my sag by raising preload. That's what you want, sag in the neighborhood of 3 inches. If your weight is at the upper end of the range for the spring, you might need to go to a stiffer spring for lowering links. Some manufacturers, Eibach, for example, rate their springs in kg/mm. The conversion factor is something like 56 or 57, so an 8.8kg spring is roughly equivalent to a 500 lb spring. HTH

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