14,110 ft

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2004-07-12 11:23:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, MBAKARICH@... writes:

> > Better for what? > > The dipped is better for shorter riders, allowing them to get a foot > down much easier, without having to resort to lowering links. This > can be especially helpful off-road on uneven terrain. > > The dipped can be better for aggressive street riders, where loading > the front gives it a slight edge in the tight twisties. Just move > your ass down into the dip and lay down on the tank, or hang off and > get a knee down on the asphalt (note: it's a long way down). Frame > flex is very noticeable if you decel hard setting up the next corner > but your question was about seats. > > For taller riders, the wider flat corbin presents less of an issue in > getting a foot (or both feet) flat on the ground. It's rumored to be > more comfortable for the LD rider who hammers out lotsa freeway > miles. It's supposedly easier to move around on, to reduce butt > fatigue due to pressure points that dvelop from sitting in one > postition for long periods of time > > These are both different solutions, what's the concern you have with > the stock saddle? > > If you want true comfor for LD type riding -skip the corbin and get > a custom seat by Mayer bros or Russell. These saddles cradle your > buttcheeks like two very large hands, spreading the load over a much > larger area and thereby reducing or eliminating pressure points. And > the cost is not too much more than a corbin. Few people have ever > regretted their investment in a custom saddle. > > MarkB > >

Only thing to add is that the dipped seat seams to be an either you like it or hate it because the of how the dip fits your rear while the flat Corbin avoids that problem. For my own tastes both seats, as well as any other aftermarket KLR seat, are too wide for off roading. The width that makes them comfortable prevents you griping the middle of the bike with your legs, which is a very important thing to be able to do in the dirt. I tried a friend's bike with the dipped Corbin they aren't for me. I got the flat Corbin which I only use when I'm going for long road trips. This weekend I did a 300 mile ride to Bass lake to do a two day dual sport ride and then the 300 miles back home, all with the stock seat. The stuff they got us into would have been all the harder with either Corbin, glad I had the OEM seat so I could squeeze with my legs to hang on in the boulder fields they had us riding through. Later this moth I'll do a 2000 miles, four day ride up to the Columbia River and for that trip I'll use the Corbin and live with its width if I go offroading. Even though I may only use my Corbin for a couple of rides a year I am darn glad I got it for those rides. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Lujo Bauer]

> For my own tastes both seats, as well as any other aftermarket KLR seat, are > too wide for off roading. The width that makes them comfortable prevents you > griping the middle of the bike with your legs, which is a very important thing > to be able to do in the dirt.

I had a flat Corbin that was a great improvement on the street, but that I didn't like so much for riding off road. Then again, this too depends on your height. Guys taller than me (6'2") might find the flat Corbin no obstacle. -Lujo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Paul]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dumbazz650" wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "ridinhard"

wrote:

> > Which is better of the corbin seats, the dipped or the flat, or

is

> > there some other seat better than corbin. Thanks in advance > > Better for what? > > The dipped is better for shorter riders, allowing them to get a

foot

> down much easier, without having to resort to lowering links. This > can be especially helpful off-road on uneven terrain. > > The dipped can be better for aggressive street riders, where

loading

> the front gives it a slight edge in the tight twisties. Just move > your ass down into the dip and lay down on the tank, or hang off

and

> get a knee down on the asphalt (note: it's a long way down). Frame > flex is very noticeable if you decel hard setting up the next

corner

> but your question was about seats. > > For taller riders, the wider flat corbin presents less of an issue

in

> getting a foot (or both feet) flat on the ground. It's rumored to

be

> more comfortable for the LD rider who hammers out lotsa freeway > miles. It's supposedly easier to move around on, to reduce butt > fatigue due to pressure points that dvelop from sitting in one > postition for long periods of time

I'd have to say I concour with pretty much all the observations here. I'll add this though. I've ridden on both Corbin designs and find the dipped to be the clear winner. I'm 5'8" so the added bonus of being closer to the ground and narrow up front (for dirt) is great but you can scoot around on a dipped seat just as much as on the flat. With the flat seat you change position and the seat is still the exact same contour. With the dipped, there's all kinds of different angles to perch your ass on, including the rear which is the same as a flat, all of which makes a really big difference.

> These are both different solutions, what's the concern you have

with

> the stock saddle? > > If you want true comfor for LD type riding -skip the corbin and get > a custom seat by Mayer bros or Russell. These saddles cradle your > buttcheeks like two very large hands, spreading the load over a

much

> larger area and thereby reducing or eliminating pressure points.

And

> the cost is not too much more than a corbin. Few people have ever > regretted their investment in a custom saddle. > > MarkB

[billshel2003]

One year ago I bought a used A13 (1999 model) with 3350 miles on it. At the time, I thought the seat was reasonably comfortable. Now, a year later, after riding for around 30 miles or so, it feels like I'm sitting on a piece on concrete. I'm not sure if my body changed during the last year or if it is the seat, or a combination of the two. Any one know if the seat of the KLR loses it after five years, or what. I usually do 20 to 50 mile rides, I'd like to go farther if time permitted - about 50% pavement, 40% forest service gravel, 10% dirt biking it in the rough. I'm 5' 11", 170 lbs. What should I be looking at for a seat upgrade? Build a new one on the original seat pan or go with a new after market one or what? Any suggestions appreciated. Bill VT

[Howard Morris]

billshel2003 wrote: One year ago I bought a used A13 (1999 model) with 3350 miles on it. At the time, I thought the seat was reasonably comfortable. Now, a year later, after riding for around 30 miles or so, it feels like I'm sitting on a piece on concrete. I'm not sure if my body changed during the last year or if it is the seat, or a combination of the two. Any one know if the seat of the KLR loses it after five years, or what. I usually do 20 to 50 mile rides, I'd like to go farther if time permitted - about 50% pavement, 40% forest service gravel, 10% dirt biking it in the rough. I'm 5' 11", 170 lbs. What should I be looking at for a seat upgrade? Build a new one on the original seat pan or go with a new after market one or what? Any suggestions appreciated. Bill VT Hey Bill I had the same thing with my seat. I finally shelled out for the Corbin flat seat and now I can ride as far as I want with out pain. I don't know how tall you are but the Corbin makes the bike feel higher. With the stock seat you like sit into it,Know what I mean? Like the way you sit on a mx bike. You may want to look at the dished seat, just depends on your inseam. Good luck. Howard A-18 List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[klr6501995]

The Japanese are VERY good at selling to Americans. They know that in the show room big fat Aerican ass will sit on seat and look for soft plushness. I rode my 87klr for several years w/ the stock seat and did suffer greatly on trips of 100 miles or more. I used to stand up and let lady passenger scratch my ass vigoursley to make me feel better! My used 95 came w/ a dished corbin and now I can ride for as long as I want. From experience I have found the dished corbin to be good for dirt or urban combat. Not so good for carry a passenger. (my passengers have been big boned ladies, I'm skinny) If I knew I was going to carry another person I'd probabley go w/ a flat corbin. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "billshel2003" wrote:

> One year ago I bought a used A13 (1999 model) with 3350 miles on

it.

> At the time, I thought the seat was reasonably comfortable. Now, a > year later, after riding for around 30 miles or so, it feels like > I'm sitting on a piece on concrete. I'm not sure if my body changed > during the last year or if it is the seat, or a combination of the > two. Any one know if the seat of the KLR loses it after five years, > or what. I usually do 20 to 50 mile rides, I'd like to go farther

if

> time permitted - about 50% pavement, 40% forest service gravel, 10% > dirt biking it in the rough. I'm 5' 11", 170 lbs. What should I be > looking at for a seat upgrade? Build a new one on the original seat > pan or go with a new after market one or what? Any suggestions > appreciated. > > Bill > VT

[Rick VanCamp]

I want to replace my stock seat and was wondering if anyone has used the gel seat kit from dual star? They are priced at $129.95. Or do you think the flat corbin seat is the better choice? Thanks --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2 /min or less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[stuart sullivan]

Anyone know if an Africa lowered seat from a 2009 will fit the earlier models?                                                                                      Thanks.

[Craig Kahler]

Yes. I have one on my 07. Craig Kahler

--- On [b]Thu, 10/14/10, stuart sullivan [i][/i][/b] wrote:

From: stuart sullivan Subject: [DSN_KLR650] seat To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 12:36 AM   Anyone know if an Africa lowered seat from a 2009 will fit the earlier models?                                                                                      Thanks.

[stuart sullivan]

Craig thanks for the info but alas the one i was looking at on ebay has been sold,"DRATS",so how do you like the seat and how much lower does it get you to the ground?                                                                                         Stu. To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com; mac-doo@... From: ckahleer@... Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:43:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] seat   Yes. I have one on my 07. Craig Kahler

--- On [b]Thu, 10/14/10, stuart sullivan [i][/i][/b] wrote:

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