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[kayak_shack]

Hey KLR kids! I got a 93 KLR a couple years ago and commute on the highway, ride dirt raods and trails too. SO far I have been wearing heavy leather backpacking boots but am hoping to get a real set of riding boots by the spring. ANy suggestions? I don't want a full on motor cross boot and want to be able walk aroudn in them OK. A high degree of water repellancey would be nice too. I don't do too extreme off-roading but coudl definitely use more protection. I have ordered a few things from DUAL STAR in the past and saw their Gaerne Explorer ($170 US) and Sidi Discovery ($250 US) boots. Any impressions of these or other real dual purpose boots I should look for? Also, I am in Canada so any mail order or online seller's info would be appreciated. Thanks

[John Biccum]

Let me know if you find a real dual sport boot. I have a pair of motocross boots (Alpenstars M6) and they are useless in rain. The spray off the front wheel soaks my feet within 10 or 15 minutes. I also have an pair of Oxtar Matrix Gore-Tex lined boots. These are excellent boots: comfortable to ride and walk in, very waterproof, not so freakish looking that people point and stare where I use them to ride to work. They have CE approved armor in them and look like they would do an excellent job of protecting in a get off. Fortunately I have not personally tested their protection! But the sole of these boots is a smooth "street" sole not the hiking boot type of sole I'd expect in a true dual sport boot. I have been riding the Oxtar Matrix boots on all my dual sport rides and so far I have not found the smooth street sole to be any real handicap. The Matrix boot got a great review from Motorcycle Consumer New (the only moto rag that I truly trust to be objective since they are the only moto rag that shuns advertising.) I got my Oxtar's from New Enough in Texas, they are excellent people to deal with and ship fast. Here is a link to the boot: http://www.newenough.com/oxtar_matrix_goretex_boots_page_private.htm Oxtar does not permit their dealers to advertise prices below list price so I had to send New Enough an email to get them to mail back this link with the pricing. If you got to their website you will not see pricing quoted in a "public URL". This is an excellent price for an excellent boot. Although it is not really a dual sport boot it is the boot that I use for dual sport riding and I have been real happy with them.

----- Original Message ----- From: "kayak_shack" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:21 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] dual sport boots > > > Hey KLR kids! > > I got a 93 KLR a couple years ago and commute on the highway, ride > dirt raods and trails too. SO far I have been wearing heavy leather > backpacking boots but am hoping to get a real set of riding boots by > the spring. ANy suggestions? > > I don't want a full on motor cross boot and want to be able walk > aroudn in them OK. A high degree of water repellancey would be nice > too. I don't do too extreme off-roading but coudl definitely use > more protection. I have ordered a few things from DUAL STAR in the > past and saw their Gaerne Explorer ($170 US) and Sidi Discovery ($250 > US) boots. Any impressions of these or other real dual purpose boots > I should look for? > > Also, I am in Canada so any mail order or online seller's info would > be appreciated. Thanks > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Chris]

I love my pair of Matrix boots, but frankly, I'm not real comfortable doing any trail riding with them. Fine for clear and open conditions, but I'd hate to hit a stump or a rock with my foot. The Matrix boots are fantastic for general road riding though and quite comfortable to walk around in. I'm still going to get a pair of MX boots for offroading. John Biccum wrote:

> Let me know if you find a real dual sport boot. I have a pair of motocross > boots (Alpenstars M6) and they are useless in rain. The spray off the front > wheel soaks my feet within 10 or 15 minutes. > > I also have an pair of Oxtar Matrix Gore-Tex lined boots. These are > excellent boots: comfortable to ride and walk in, very waterproof, not so > freakish looking that people point and stare where I use them to ride to > work. They have CE approved armor in them and look like they would do an > excellent job of protecting in a get off. Fortunately I have not personally > tested their protection! But the sole of these boots is a smooth "street" > sole not the hiking boot type of sole I'd expect in a true dual sport boot. > > I have been riding the Oxtar Matrix boots on all my dual sport rides and so > far I have not found the smooth street sole to be any real handicap. The > Matrix boot got a great review from Motorcycle Consumer New (the only moto > rag that I truly trust to be objective since they are the only moto rag that > shuns advertising.) I got my Oxtar's from New Enough in Texas, they are > excellent people to deal with and ship fast. Here is a link to the boot: > http://www.newenough.com/oxtar_matrix_goretex_boots_page_private.htm Oxtar > does not permit their dealers to advertise prices below list price so I had > to send New Enough an email to get them to mail back this link with the > pricing. If you got to their website you will not see pricing quoted in a > "public URL". > > This is an excellent price for an excellent boot. Although it is not > really a dual sport boot it is the boot that I use for dual sport riding and > I have been real happy with them. > > >

[monahanwb]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Chris wrote:

> I love my pair of Matrix boots, but frankly, I'm not real

comfortable

> doing any trail riding with them.

I recently bought some Oxtars but haven't been able to do much riding for a while. Just once with them. I think they're called "Infinity" and they are an actual DS boot with heavy duty fasteners and lots of protection. I'll be trying them out again soon as I can walk a little better (just got a new hip). They were about $200 at motorcyclecloseouts com but I think they may have sold them out. They are identical to the "Kalahari" boot BMW used to sell for around $350. The blue/white propeller roundel thingie costs about $150, I figure.

[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

My Oxtar TCS Sports are fashizzle, forizzle. (The S**t for real). Cozy, dry, stick to even wet rubber pegs, and have steel reenforcement to prevent broken feet and ankles even in the the worst wreck. I got them slightly used on Ebay for 80 dollars. Two big thumbs up! Oh yeah, they take baout 10 seconds each to get into also.... --- kayak_shack wrote:

> > > Hey KLR kids! > > I got a 93 KLR a couple years ago and commute on > the highway, ride > dirt raods and trails too. SO far I have been > wearing heavy leather > backpacking boots but am hoping to get a real set of > riding boots by > the spring. ANy suggestions? > > I don't want a full on motor cross boot and want to > be able walk > aroudn in them OK. A high degree of water > repellancey would be nice > too. I don't do too extreme off-roading but coudl > definitely use > more protection. I have ordered a few things from > DUAL STAR in the > past and saw their Gaerne Explorer ($170 US) and > Sidi Discovery ($250 > US) boots. Any impressions of these or other real > dual purpose boots > I should look for? > > Also, I am in Canada so any mail order or online > seller's info would > be appreciated. Thanks > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >

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[John Kokola]

The Oxtar Infinity boots are available at www.newenough.com for around $210 IIRC. I think I'm going to get a pair. --John Kokola

> -----Original Message----- > From: monahanwb [mailto:monahanwb@...] > > I recently bought some Oxtars but haven't been able to do much > riding for a while. Just once with them. I think they're > called "Infinity" and they are an actual DS boot with heavy duty > fasteners and lots of protection. I'll be trying them out again > soon as I can walk a little better (just got a new hip). They were > about $200 at motorcyclecloseouts com but I think they may have sold > them out.

[Greg Roberts]

> Hey KLR kids! > > I have a 93 KLR and commute on it, ride dirt roads and trails too. I > have been wearing heavy hiking boots so far but am hoping to get a > better pair of riding boots between now and the spring. (I know I > know I NEED real boots) ANy suggestions? > > I don't want anythign too huge (like a full super stiff, 500 buckle > moto-cross boot) because I want to throw them on to go to work, but > would still liek some better protection for of roading and in the > case of a crash. I have heard a few folsk atlk abotu moto-cross > style boots that are a bit less stiff etc and good for all around > riding? Waterproof I know is a word that is used a lot but rarely > REALLY occurs. I would like a fair bit of water resistance at > least. Of course O don't want to spend $500 on a pair of boots > either. ALso I am in Canada and any mail order suggestions are > appreciated. > > Thanks > JOsh

Josh, I've been using the BMW Kalahari boots for the past 4 years. Very good protection, very comfortable, and 100% waterproof ( and I have ridden for hours on end in hard rain). I have removed the steel front sole guard. Though they are expensive, to me they have been worth it. My next choice would be Oxtar's line of boots. I know several folks who have them and are very pleased with the for comfort and ability to withstand water. Greg Roberts --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2005-01-08 9:10:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, kayak_shack@... writes:

> Hey KLR kids! > > I have a 93 KLR and commute on it, ride dirt roads and trails too. I > have been wearing heavy hiking boots so far but am hoping to get a > better pair of riding boots between now and the spring. (I know I > know I NEED real boots) ANy suggestions? > > I don't want anythign too huge (like a full super stiff, 500 buckle > moto-cross boot) because I want to throw them on to go to work, but > would still liek some better protection for of roading and in the > case of a crash. I have heard a few folsk atlk abotu moto-cross > style boots that are a bit less stiff etc and good for all around > riding? Waterproof I know is a word that is used a lot but rarely > REALLY occurs. I would like a fair bit of water resistance at > least. Of course O don't want to spend $500 on a pair of boots > either. ALso I am in Canada and any mail order suggestions are > appreciated. > > Thanks > JOsh > >

I think there is an alternative to motorcycle specific foot wear. Back in my youth I did several years fire fighting with the Forest Service and came to love a good pair of caulkies (logger slang for their unique style of work boot). For hiking, for most anything I did in the woods those boots were fantastic. Most those style boots are also available with a sportsman heel, which is a flat soled boot with very minimal height lugs on the sole. I've found this to be a good compromise between full on MX boots and the Adventure Touring style models. Waterproofing is old fashion, use snow wax or some similar waterproofing product made for leather. The big secret to applying waterproofing is to get the boots good and warm by setting them by the fire before applying. Use two applications. Back when I was working in the woods Whites were the premier brand. They cost a good chunk more than anything else but I knew guys that were using 15-20 year old Whites and White Boots would make a pair to custom fit your foot for just a little bit more. When I was fire fighting there was a brand called Buffalo Boots which was considered about the best short of getting a pair of Whites. Red Wing Shoes swallowed up Buffalo Boots and still offers this style with a caulked (high heel) sole and with a flat sportsman sole. The lowers are two layers of leather and it has a substantial steel shank. The boot stands 10" tall so it provides substantial ankle support as well. I still wear my MX boots for organized DS rides because they tend to bring the agro side out in me, but for everything else I wear my Red Wings and If I get up to the Pacific NW this next year I'll find the time to stop in at White Boots and get a custom made pair. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim Hubbard]

I know I'm gonna get slammed for this, but for me, the idea of multi-purpose motorcycling also carries over to my riding clothes. In general, I'm just not gonna shell out for something that I can only wear when riding (except for my helmet of course). I use a good pair of comfortable waterproof work boots. They work great, and I can wear them anywhere, anytime. For pants, when it gets cold I start layering warm-up pants, ski pants, and maybe a pair of insulated coveralls. For a jacket, again layers of just about anything I can find. Is all of this less safe than a $700 riding suit? Maybe. But I'm riding a motorcycle, for crying out loud. If I feel the need to wrap myself in a cacoon of protection, then I might as well drive the cage. To me, if you're regularly riding so hard off road that you need the protection of a motocross boot, then you probably need a different bike too. Jim Hubbard

> -----Original Message----- > From: kdxkawboy@... [mailto:kdxkawboy@...] > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:59 AM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] dual sport boots > > > > In a message dated 2005-01-08 9:10:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, > kayak_shack@... writes: > > > Hey KLR kids! > > > > I have a 93 KLR and commute on it, ride dirt roads and trails too. I > > have been wearing heavy hiking boots so far but am hoping to get a > > better pair of riding boots between now and the spring. (I know I > > know I NEED real boots) ANy suggestions? > > > > I don't want anythign too huge (like a full super stiff, 500 buckle > > moto-cross boot) because I want to throw them on to go to work, but > > would still liek some better protection for of roading and in the > > case of a crash. I have heard a few folsk atlk abotu moto-cross > > style boots that are a bit less stiff etc and good for all around > > riding? Waterproof I know is a word that is used a lot but rarely > > REALLY occurs. I would like a fair bit of water resistance at > > least. Of course O don't want to spend $500 on a pair of boots > > either. ALso I am in Canada and any mail order suggestions are > > appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > JOsh > > > > > > I think there is an alternative to motorcycle specific foot wear. > Back in my > youth I did several years fire fighting with the Forest Service > and came to > love a good pair of caulkies (logger slang for their unique style > of work boot). > For hiking, for most anything I did in the woods those boots were > fantastic. > > Most those style boots are also available with a sportsman heel, > which is a > flat soled boot with very minimal height lugs on the sole. I've > found this to > be a good compromise between full on MX boots and the Adventure > Touring style > models. Waterproofing is old fashion, use snow wax or some similar > waterproofing product made for leather. The big secret to > applying waterproofing is to get > the boots good and warm by setting them by the fire before > applying. Use two > applications. > > Back when I was working in the woods Whites were the premier > brand. They cost > a good chunk more than anything else but I knew guys that were > using 15-20 > year old Whites and White Boots would make a pair to custom fit > your foot for > just a little bit more. When I was fire fighting there was a brand called > Buffalo Boots which was considered about the best short of > getting a pair of Whites. > Red Wing Shoes swallowed up Buffalo Boots and still offers this > style with a > caulked (high heel) sole and with a flat sportsman sole. The > lowers are two > layers of leather and it has a substantial steel shank. The boot > stands 10" tall > so it provides substantial ankle support as well. I still wear my > MX boots > for organized DS rides because they tend to bring the agro side > out in me, but > for everything else I wear my Red Wings and If I get up to the > Pacific NW this > next year I'll find the time to stop in at White Boots and get a > custom made > pair. > > Pat > G'ville, Nv > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

Having broken a lot of bones, and suffered more road rash than I care to remember, armor for me was simply an investment. I can pay before I lay it down or after. Also, nothing is warmer than my armor (other than electric), not even ski clothes. I feel god knowing I wont break any foot bones with tcs boots, and that my knees and elbows and spine are going to fair better than with no armor. As old as I am, it pays to invest, and take less chances. In my youth I did not care at all.... --- Jim Hubbard wrote:

> > I know I'm gonna get slammed for this, but for me, > the idea of multi-purpose > motorcycling also carries over to my riding clothes. > In general, I'm just > not gonna shell out for something that I can only > wear when riding (except > for my helmet of course). I use a good pair of > comfortable waterproof work > boots. They work great, and I can wear them > anywhere, anytime. For pants, > when it gets cold I start layering warm-up pants, > ski pants, and maybe a > pair of insulated coveralls. For a jacket, again > layers of just about > anything I can find. > > Is all of this less safe than a $700 riding suit? > Maybe. But I'm riding a > motorcycle, for crying out loud. If I feel the need > to wrap myself in a > cacoon of protection, then I might as well drive the > cage. > > To me, if you're regularly riding so hard off road > that you need the > protection of a motocross boot, then you probably > need a different bike too. > > > Jim Hubbard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: kdxkawboy@... [mailto:kdxkawboy@...] > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:59 AM > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] dual sport boots > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2005-01-08 9:10:37 AM Pacific > Standard Time, > > kayak_shack@... writes: > > > > > Hey KLR kids! > > > > > > I have a 93 KLR and commute on it, ride dirt > roads and trails too. I > > > have been wearing heavy hiking boots so far but > am hoping to get a > > > better pair of riding boots between now and the > spring. (I know I > > > know I NEED real boots) ANy suggestions? > > > > > > I don't want anythign too huge (like a full > super stiff, 500 buckle > > > moto-cross boot) because I want to throw them on > to go to work, but > > > would still liek some better protection for of > roading and in the > > > case of a crash. I have heard a few folsk atlk > abotu moto-cross > > > style boots that are a bit less stiff etc and > good for all around > > > riding? Waterproof I know is a word that is used > a lot but rarely > > > REALLY occurs. I would like a fair bit of water > resistance at > > > least. Of course O don't want to spend $500 on > a pair of boots > > > either. ALso I am in Canada and any mail order > suggestions are > > > appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks > > > JOsh > > > > > > > > > > I think there is an alternative to motorcycle > specific foot wear. > > Back in my > > youth I did several years fire fighting with the > Forest Service > > and came to > > love a good pair of caulkies (logger slang for > their unique style > > of work boot). > > For hiking, for most anything I did in the woods > those boots were > > fantastic. > > > > Most those style boots are also available with a > sportsman heel, > > which is a > > flat soled boot with very minimal height lugs on > the sole. I've > > found this to > > be a good compromise between full on MX boots and > the Adventure > > Touring style > > models. Waterproofing is old fashion, use snow wax > or some similar > > waterproofing product made for leather. The big > secret to > > applying waterproofing is to get > > the boots good and warm by setting them by the > fire before > > applying. Use two > > applications. > > > > Back when I was working in the woods Whites were > the premier > > brand. They cost > > a good chunk more than anything else but I knew > guys that were > > using 15-20 > > year old Whites and White Boots would make a pair > to custom fit > > your foot for > > just a little bit more. When I was fire fighting > there was a brand called > > Buffalo Boots which was considered about the best > short of > > getting a pair of Whites. > > Red Wing Shoes swallowed up Buffalo Boots and > still offers this > > style with a > > caulked (high heel) sole and with a flat sportsman > sole. The > > lowers are two > > layers of leather and it has a substantial steel > shank. The boot > > stands 10" tall > > so it provides substantial ankle support as well. > I still wear my > > MX boots > > for organized DS rides because they tend to bring > the agro side > > out in me, but > > for everything else I wear my Red Wings and If I > get up to the > > Pacific NW this > > next year I'll find the time to stop in at White > Boots and get a > > custom made > > pair. > > > > Pat > > G'ville, Nv > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >

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