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[Robert Waters]

Has anyone used Lucas in your KLR?  At my last oil change I added 1/2-3/4 cup to the 15-40 Mobile oil for diesels.  The shifting is amazingly smooth.  In parts stores they sometimes have a demo that shows how that stuff sticks to the gears when turning.  I can just picture it working as I run through the gears.  Absolutely no missed gears when this stuff is fresh. Robert Waters   Re: Let's start an oil thread Posted by: "Jeff Khoury" jeff@...   DsrtEgl Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:38 pm (PDT) After reading the Motorcycle vs. Automotive oil article by that Cal State Ph.D., I have used automotive oils in all my bikes, and full synthetic wherever possible. The rationale is that the transmission gears present in common-sump motorcycle engines tend to shear the long polymer chains of motor oil, causing a rapid drop in viscosity. After all, it's the viscosity that we're most concerned with, right? Synthetic oils resist these shearing forces better than dead dinosaurs allowing one to go longer between changes. The results of this study are particularly telling, because it turned out that plain 'ol Castrol GTX automotive oil outperformed all the motorcycle-specific oils during the test. I've mirrored the study on my MC related blog: http://www.dsrtegl. com/2010/ 04/automotive- vs-motorcycle- oil.html -Jeff Khoury

[wantar1200gs]

i recently got a garmin street pilot 3 and wondering if any others have or have had in the past this unit. I would like to get any reviews you may have on it or what you may have and think of what you have. I am not a fan that i have to go out and buy some cd to load maps onto a memory card, maybe i am just used to the newer models of gps units that just search automatically... also if anyone has a current garmin CD that i could "borrow or buy??" along with the card reader. or maybe someone could copy their cd if thats possible??? i hate to be cheap to borrow or have a cd burnt but they are $100 at a store.. thanks and looking forward to some replies... Travis in Fargo.. no longer have a KLR but a 1200GS

[kusstj]

Very interesting read. However did I miss something. His basic premise (I think) is that he could find no evidence of differences in viscosity reduction in MC vs automotive oils, and he did test synthetics too. He calls out the demands of MC oil having to lube both the engine and the transmission, and thus the propensity to breakdown the chains of molecules requires a MC specific oil. He does not mention anywhere (unless I missed it) that some of the components of the auto specific oil may enable clutch slippage / wear/ glazing? This to me is a big puzzle piece to omit . . . Personally I have used every kind of oil imaginable, and for my use they all work fine, so my conclusion may be the same. but from an analytical perspective, the wet clutch effects are of extreme interest and his write up seems to omit this. maybe I missed something, I had to go through it quickly. Again, thanks much, - a very interesting read! todd A16 Chaska mn

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Robert Waters wrote: > > Has anyone used Lucas in your KLR? At my last oil change I added 1/2-3/4 cup to the 15-40 Mobile oil for diesels. The shifting is amazingly smooth. In parts stores they sometimes have a demo that shows how that stuff sticks to the gears when turning. I can just picture it working as I run through the gears. Absolutely no missed gears when this stuff is fresh. > Robert Waters > > > > Re: Let's start an oil thread > > Posted by: "Jeff > Khoury" > jeff@... > > > DsrtEgl > > > > Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:38 pm (PDT) > > > > > > After reading the Motorcycle vs. Automotive oil article by that > Cal State Ph.D., I have used automotive oils in all my bikes, and full > synthetic wherever possible. > > > > The rationale is that the transmission gears present in common-sump > motorcycle engines tend to shear the long polymer chains of motor oil, > causing a rapid drop in viscosity. After all, it's the viscosity that > we're most concerned with, right? Synthetic oils resist these shearing > forces better than dead dinosaurs allowing one to go longer between > changes. > > > > The results of this study are particularly telling, because it turned > out that plain 'ol Castrol GTX automotive oil outperformed all the > motorcycle-specific oils during the test. > > > > I've mirrored the study on my MC related blog: > > > > http://www.dsrtegl > com/2010/ 04/automotive- vs-motorcycle- oil.html > > > > -Jeff Khoury >