nklr -- black hills national forest new travel management rules

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2004-07-20 7:17:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, arden646@... writes:

> > I've also had a Svea 123 for a long time. They're a little like a KLR- > -rugged, dependable, a tad heavy, and can take on some cantakerous > characteristics. In the meantime, I've have couple of propane stoves > and the original MSR multi-fuel. Propane gets expensive, and it's not > always easy to find replacement cartridges. The MSR is great, but too > heavy and loud. Just bought a Whisperlite, we'll see how that goes. > If I don't like it, I'll just go back to the Svea. BTW Pat, I think > you meant a 1-pound coffee can, unless you've got a mega-Svea. > > __Arden > >

You are right, it fits in a 1lb coffeee can, with room to spare. I never thought of the Seva being like my KLR, but know that you mention it ... Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bogdan Swider]

Re: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR -- Black Hills National Forest New Travel Management Rules Thanks for the report, Jeff. A visit to your part of the world is on my to-do list for this year. I’ve been living in the West for since 82 and still haven’t gotten around to seeing the Bad Lands and Black Hills. Yeah..if you’re doing something you’re not doing something else. Maybe I can look you up and buy you lunch. Bogdan

On 3/25/10 9:34 AM, "Jeff Saline" salinej1@...> wrote:

        Listers,   Last night Forest Supervisor Craig Bobzien announced his decision about motorized travel in the Black Hills National Forest (South Dakota).   The short story on the results from my perspective is it will be good for KLR riders.  In the past, the Black Hills National Forest rules have been you may go anywhere unless specifically prohibited.  Now the rule will be you may go nowhere unless specifically allowed.  This isn't as restrictive as it first sounds.   There will be a cost of $25 per year or $20 for a one week permit to ride on the forest service trails.  Permits are expected to be available on line or over the counter at Forest Service Offices and some businesses.  It might help to think of it in a manner similar to a hunting or fishing license.  Note, a trail is not a public road.  For folks not wanting to purchase a permit allowing use of the trail system there are still thousands of miles of forest service roads that will be available for use by licensed users on licensed equipment.  And buying a permit will not allow you to forgo South Dakota law and ride on most public roads with an unlicensed vehicle.  The new rules will probably go into effect in the later part of summer.   For a KLR rider I think to get the best use of the forest, purchasing the permit will be well worth the money.   The longer story is this decision has been made after four years of planning which has included lots of public meetings and input.  I doubt anyone got everything they wanted but everyone got something.  If you lost your favorite place to play there is a new favorite place to play available.  Craig Bobzien stated last night that he personally read every comment submitted during the planning process.  The book he showed was about 5-6 inches thick of typewritten pages of comments.  He wants people to use their forest while at the same time being good stewards and respectful of all users wants and needs.   Since the forest is everyone's to use there were lots of interests to consider in making a well designed and useful management decision.  Not only do you have motorized users of the forest but also non motorized users like mountain bikers, hikers, hunters and fishermen and horse riders.  Some users desire quiet and some solitude.  Some places in the forest are of spiritual significance and some areas have artifacts of historical significance or plants requiring protection.   The process as I understand it continues with the signed decision now going to the EPA.  The EPA files it on the federal register and there is a 45 day appeal period.  After that if an appeal is warranted, that process happens.  Once the appeal process is completed new maps will be printed and the new rule will go into effect.   There will be enforcement of noise and spark arrestor regulations.  From my perspective this is good.  Quiet machines will enhance the experience for all users, maybe with the exception of the look at me crowd.  The non motorized users can't get worked up about motorized use if they don't know it's happening.   Water crossings will be reduced from, if I recall the numbers correctly, about 1,200 to about 700.  Not all will be available immediately as many will require hardening to help protect water resources in the Black Hills.  There will be absolutely no mud bogging allowed anywhere.  Mud bogging usually results in serious damage to wet lands or marshes and that isn't in line with being a good steward of the forest.   As funds become available and work can get completed (both Forest Service personnel and volunteers) the trail system will become fully available.  Some of the first work that will need to be accomplished is marking of trails so users can tell where they are and are not allowed.   There will be about 700 miles of trails in this system.  Some trails (about 90 miles) will be restricted to motorcycles only.  Other trails in South Dakota will be restricted to vehicles 62" wide or less.  In Wyoming the restriction will be 50" or less as Wyoming already has an Off Road Vehicle program (with required permits) in place.  Some areas will have seasonal closures for wildlife habitat management (again, already in place usually from mid Dec until 15 May) and these areas will be clearly marked on the free travel management maps.  Many miles of roads will continue just like they are now with the requirement of a licensed operator using a licensed vehicle.   So that is a quick and hopefully accurate note on what's happening with motorized travel in the Black Hills of South Dakota.  If you'd like to read about this on the Forest Service website try [b]http://tinyurl.com/ycjkdo2[/b] http://tinyurl.com/ycjkdo2>  or maybe do a google search for Black Hills National Forest Travel Management.   Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 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