[dsn_klr650] battery or alternator????

[djhs4catsat404]

Does anyone have an idea what the aluminum panniers by happy trails weigh (Large). Am making my own but don't want the weight of the old 50 caliber ammo cans. Has anyone out there made there own and if so whats the weight. Gary

[wannabsmooth1]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "djhs4catsat404" wrote:

> > Does anyone have an idea what the aluminum panniers by happy trails > weigh (Large). Am making my own but don't want the weight of the old > 50 caliber ammo cans. Has anyone out there made there own and if so > whats the weight. > > Gary

You can probably calculate it pretty close if you know how big you are going to make them. Aluminum is about .1 lbs per cubic inch. All the best, Mike Eagle Mfg & Eng San Diego, Ca

[jean_philippe_valois]

Have you looked into mermite cans? I came accross these when running a search for precisely the same question as yours: http://www.bmwgs.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=930941#poststop The cans are made of aluminum and apparently weigh 11 lbs each (after they are stripped of their padding + thermal insulation). jp --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "djhs4catsat404" wrote:

> > Does anyone have an idea what the aluminum panniers by happy trails > weigh (Large). Am making my own but don't want the weight of the old > 50 caliber ammo cans. Has anyone out there made there own and if so > whats the weight. > > Gary

[David Critchley]

Wt of 20 mm M261 cans from www.Armygear.com is 20 lbs each. They are within 1/4 inch of the size of one make of Al pannier. I suspect that the Al ones are thicker than the steel, so if that is so you won't get the 3 to 1 weight advantage. DC djhs4catsat404 wrote:

> > Does anyone have an idea what the aluminum panniers by happy trails > weigh (Large). Am making my own but don't want the weight of the old > 50 caliber ammo cans. Has anyone out there made there own and if so > whats the weight.

[John Radebaugh]

--- > djhs4catsat404 wrote:

> > > > Does anyone have an idea what the aluminum panniers by happy

trails

> > weigh (Large). Am making my own but don't want the weight of the

old

> > 50 caliber ammo cans. Has anyone out there made there own and if

so

> > whats the weight.

My Happy Trails Owyhees are 14 x 16 x 7.5 ". They weight 8lbs 8 oz. with the quick release rail attached. JR

[eamcfillin]

Hello all, I've been toying with the idea of buying aluminum panniers for my KLR. I have narrowed down the choices to the cases sold by Happy Trail and Moto-sport panniers. Any feedback on these cases will be greatly appreciated. Ed

[Jeff Saline]

Criswell, Sounds like a battery on it's way out to me. You didn't mention if you charged the battery before letting it sit for 12 hours and the "test". I'm gonna bet you didn't. : ) Your description of the tester with three LEDs sounds like a low tech voltmeter. Green is probably on from 12.6 volts or higher. Red is probably 11.8 volts or so and Red/Yellow is probably 12.3-12.4 volts or so. I'm gonna guess you could get the same results with a voltmeter. For the charging system test I'm gonna guess it's about the same thing with a certain output required for the lights to be green. If the battery isn't fully charged it will take a bit of time for the bike charging system to get up to full voltage even at 3,500 rpm or so. And depending on how bad the battery is the output might never get up to specs. If the battery is discharged and weak the test might never indicate the charging system is ok. The charging system might have to work at full output and the battery could just suck up all the electrickery available and make the tester think the output is weak. My suggestion is to service the battery with distilled water if it's a slosh type battery. Then charge it for at least 14 amps worth. That means if you are using a charger that is rated at 1 amp you charge the battery for at least 14 hours. If it's a 0.5 amp charger like maybe a Battery Tender Jr. you'd have to charge the battery for at least 28 hours. If you have a voltmeter, check the voltage before, during and after charging. When the battery is fully charged and has been off the charger for a couple of hours check the voltage. It should read at least 12.6 volts on a good, fully charged battery. Any less and it means either the battery isn't fully charged or the battery is weak. Maybe give that a try and then report back with the results. My guess is you'll be buying a new battery for this riding season and find you have absolutely nothing wrong with your charging system other than a weak battery. Please remember you can't accurately check a charging system if the battery isn't fully charged and in good shape. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT <><><><><><> <><><><><><> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:30:49 -0500 "roncriswell@..." writes: My KLR is getting where it won't hardly turn over the engine acting like a weak battery. The battery is maybe 3 years old. I went and got this battery checker thing at Harbor Freight. It says let the battery sit 12 hours before you check it. I was curious so hooked both wires up. Directions say if red, yellow, green light comes on without engine running the battery is great. If only red light comes on, bad battery and red and yellow light means a fair battery. Well, red and yellow came on but this was without sitting unused for 12 hours. Next I did the alternator test where both green lights were supposed to come on for the alternator to be good. The alternator green light didn't so that according to directions means bad alternator. What do the list think? The bike has also backfired during starting the last two starts and I have had to push start it a couple times (down a hill thank goodness). The bike has almost 53,000 miles on it. If it is the alternator, where do you get the best deal on one? Criswell . ____________________________________________________________ Hotel Hotel pics, info and virtual tours. Click here to book a hotel online. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=jJ5w8UG2RqhMCt8GGYgDYAAAJ1DWfJIDP-R0_NC3mMpGFS0kAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATRAAAAAA=