sold my klr today

[rmeredith@shaw.ca]

I purchased the Kawasaki "tall windshield" with my new bike the other' day which is 4" taller than stock. I am 6' tall and my problem is that it channels the air directly into my face while I am riding and I wear an open face helemet and wish to continue doing that. My question is has anybody who is about my height tried any of the taller windshields that is supposed to channel the air over your head. I don't want to go too tall because I want to have a tinted windshield and am a little worried about ordering one and having the same problem. thanks for your help, Rob

[Eric Lee Green]

Okay, today was a chilly day near the bay, so I unpacked my Clearview +11. Result: Not much difference. Reminding me that I've been here before, and what I found then was that the Clearview basically qualifies as "barely adequate" at best, sufficing to keep rain from whacking you in the chest and not much else. Question: Has anybody done a comparison between the Clearview windshield and the Slipstreamer "universal" windshields as to how well they protect from wind and rain? The Clearview is mediocre enough that I'm seriously considering dumping it if I can get something that works any better... Also made the rounds of two local motorcycle shops asking them to order a Kenda 761 rear for me, mine's about to go center-slick. Result: Tucker Rocky doesn't carry the 761. Parts Unlimited is backordered until mid-September. Those were the only two that these guys called. So I go to the Kenda web site and find other distributors, check their catalogs, and find that Hap Jones supposedly carries the Kenda 761. So I guess the next thing I do is find whether anybody here will deal with Hap Jones and find out whether Hap Jones actually has the Kenda 761... I'm reluctant to go mail order because of typical California insanity. In the last state I lived in, any battery dealer was required to accept old batteries from consumers. You just walked in the door with the battery, signed a book, and they took it and sent it for recycling. Same deal with tires. Walk in with the tire, sign a book certifying that you aren't a dealer and this is your personal tire, and they took the tire. It was all paid for by the state recycling tax on batteries and tires, and has resulted in a much cleaner state, since tires and batteries are no longer just dumped along the roads. But here in California, the state imposed a tax on tires to create a similar program, but then apparently instead decided to use the money intended for tire recycling in order to give tax cuts to the Governator's supporters. So while the state law requires the dealer to take the old tire if they sell you a new tire, there is no such requirement that they take the old tire if they do NOT sell you a new tire, yet it is illegal to throw the old tire away in the trash or, for that matter, do anything else sane with it. Apparently you're supposed to use it as a permenant lawn ornament. Oops, nope, that's illegal too. AGH!

[Gary]

Yeah the tall aftermarket windshields suck don't they.I went back to my stock windhield and still have the 11 clearview ( like new) gathering dust in my shop. You mean the recycling centers don't take tires there? Here in NC you just take the tire to the recyclying center and sign a paper saying that is is yours and everyone is happy.

[Barry Zbornik]

Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Windshields Shields vs screens=====Trying not to repeat everything in a past post, if one wants real protection from rain, snow, wind, debris, the Memphis Shades Hellcat or Demon will work for someone doing a lot of commuting or dualtouring, IMO. Other shields my work just as well, but my bet is that just as on the FZ1 no screen will work like a bar mounted shield for real protection. My only unknown thus far will be the long term durability of the mounting interface between the shield and hardware, as the KLR vibrates so much more than the FZ. One must learn to accomodate the closeness, appearance, functionality of the shield. There will be rider height level where wind/buffeting would come into play, but not sure what that upper limit is. Perhaps about 6'2". The upper torso and partial head protection would still be significant and with a full face helment, tall riders should not be uncomfortable. The shield top is/would be very close to the face/neck area so rider safety in a crash must be 'weighed,' over protection while riding/communting. The Demon would be my strong choice over the Hellcat, but either will install and work. The Demon is no longer 'cheap.' I ran a Google and the first link I went too, http://www.motorcycleonlinestore.com/home listed them at 148$ with free shipping when over 50$. Thus IMO, at that price the Demon should only be considered by someone serious about major protection for their specific style of riding. A significant amount of my riding time is in cool/cold weather months, so good wind protection is imperative for me. On longer trips I want full protection from rain/debris. The Demon will come off in seconds for technical, off-road riding, or major gravel/dirt riding. I have good pics of both the Hellcat and Demon installed should anyone need a view. File size is generally between 500-800kb, so the pics will download slowly on a dial up and work best on a high speed connection, as one really needs to see multiple views. Regards, Z *****All outgoing email & attachments are scanned with updated Norton Antivirus***** ****From American's Hometown, Mark Twain's Hometown****] Barry Zbornik, Hannibal, Missouri Primary Email: iowaz@... Secondary Email: iowaz@... Real Motorcycles: http://www.angelfire.com/ia/z/sitemap.html 2005 Kawasaki KLR650, dual purpose, go anywhere at anytime. 2003 Yamaha R6: Silver, Yoshimura RS-3 Titanium slip-on and more. 2001 Yamaha FZ1: Black, GYRT Slip-on & Ivan's Jets, plus extras, FZ1OA. 1995 Yamaha Vmax: Red, Hindle, suspension and other mods, VMOA 169. 1985 Honda V65 Magna: Black, Kerker, oil and suspension mods, SabMag. ****Go Iowa, Go Cyclones, Go Peacocks, Go Cardinals****

[dirtrooster2003]

what county are you in, here in scotland county we have to pay per pound to take it to the recycle center.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Gary" wrote: > Yeah the tall aftermarket windshields suck don't they.I went back to > my stock windhield and still have the 11 clearview ( like new) > gathering dust in my shop. > You mean the recycling centers don't take tires there? > Here in NC you just take the tire to the recyclying center and sign a > paper saying that is is yours and everyone is happy.

[Eric Lee Green]

Gary wrote:

>Yeah the tall aftermarket windshields suck don't they.I went back to >my stock windhield and still have the 11 clearview ( like new) >gathering dust in my shop. > >

It does work to keep rain from whacking you in the chest when riding in the rain. It does do that much, at least. It just seems to me it ought to do more than that, given how big and obtrusive it is.

> You mean the recycling centers don't take tires there? > Here in NC you just take the tire to the recyclying center and sign a >paper saying that is is yours and everyone is happy. > > >

Yeah, that's the way it worked in the last state I lived in, except that every dealer who sold tires was required to serve as a recycling center for tires and the $5 "recycling fee" when you bought a new tire went to pay for the program. California was supposed to implement a similar program, and in fact now imposes the "recycling fee", but, as I noted, it seems that somebody up in Sacramento has embezzeled that money and used it for other purposes. The California state government seems good at doing that, they are also stealing sales tax and property tax money from the municipalities rather than raising income taxes because raising taxes is hard, stealing taxes from other sources is easy. And I thought that *Louisiana* government was corrupt when I lived there... -E

[tom o connor]

hi I am a very tall rider and I just installed a taller windshield to my klr .I am getting a lot of turbulance around my head.Is there and windshield out there that would remedy this situation or any mods that I can do cheers Tom --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Zachariah Mully]

On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 13:45 -0700, tom o connor wrote:

> hi I am a very tall rider and I just installed a taller windshield to > my klr .I am getting a lot of turbulance around my head.Is there and > windshield out there that would remedy this situation or any mods that > I can do cheers Tom >

Remove the windscreen entirely. Z

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Zachariah Mully wrote:

> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 13:45 -0700, tom o connor wrote: > > hi I am a very tall rider and I just installed a taller windshield to > > my klr .I am getting a lot of turbulance around my head.Is there and > > windshield out there that would remedy this situation or any mods that > > I can do cheers Tom > > Remove the windscreen entirely.

Not really an option for us tall riders, we have too much flat frontal area and the wind pressure at high speeds becomes extremely difficult to counter. (Those of you who are, err, penguin-shaped, may be a bit more aerodynamic in that regard). Those of you Back East where there is a 55mph speed limit don't understand that, I suppose, but out here in the West if you went 55mph on anything other than a city street you'd get run over -- traffic out here moves either 15mph or 75+mph, with no in-between, and 75+mph is a *lot* of wind blast without a windscreen of some sort. For summer use, I use a stock KLR windshield with the lip cut off to reduce the turbulence a little. For winter use, I use a Slipstreamer CF-30 "universal" handlebar-mounted windshield. For both summer and winter, I have an Arai full-face helmet, which is much more aerodynamic than el-cheapo helmets in the inevitable turbulence that happens because of all that jagged stuff behind the KLR fairing.

[Zachariah Mully]

On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 21:55 +0000, E.L. Green wrote:

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Zachariah Mully wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 13:45 -0700, tom o connor wrote: > > > hi I am a very tall rider and I just installed a taller windshield to > > > my klr .I am getting a lot of turbulance around my head.Is there and > > > windshield out there that would remedy this situation or any mods that > > > I can do cheers Tom > > > > Remove the windscreen entirely. > > Not really an option for us tall riders, we have too much flat frontal > area and the wind pressure at high speeds becomes extremely difficult > to counter. (Those of you who are, err, penguin-shaped, may be a bit > more aerodynamic in that regard). Those of you Back East where there > is a 55mph speed limit don't understand that, I suppose, but out here > in the West if you went 55mph on anything other than a city street > you'd get run over -- traffic out here moves either 15mph or 75+mph, > with no in-between, and 75+mph is a *lot* of wind blast without a > windscreen of some sort. > > For summer use, I use a stock KLR windshield with the lip cut off to > reduce the turbulence a little. For winter use, I use a Slipstreamer > CF-30 "universal" handlebar-mounted windshield. For both summer and > winter, I have an Arai full-face helmet, which is much more > aerodynamic than el-cheapo helmets in the inevitable turbulence that > happens because of all that jagged stuff behind the KLR fairing.

Uh dude, I'm 6'4". And I know what happens to non-dot knobbies at 90MPH for good reason. I just think that windshields become a PITA after a certain height. I've not monkeyed with a CF-30, but at some point, trying to get a tall enough windscreen is a fruitless exercise as it'll either be so tall that it'll be unstable, or adds to kite-ness in crosswinds. Maybe he's not riding 75mph, and maybe he doesn't have the cash for another windscreen, so I think pulling it off entirely and driving around like for a bit can't help and it's cheap. Z