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todd_mckinnon2000
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hard vs soft - side luggage or saddlebags

Post by todd_mckinnon2000 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:30 pm

I spent the several hours today researching Caribou and Jesse and HT and Givi hard cases and broken braces/brackets and risk of broken ankles. I am starting to think I should seriously consider soft bags with no bracket. I would be interested in weekend camping trips, maybe a 1 week trip every now and then. Found Speedpack Wide for a KLR at http://www.bikegear.co.za/d8e95b00-c6fb-4998-b2f4-e8aaf5f9cf0b-9.html, which seems to be nice and not touching the muffler, but not sure available in the states. Are there any recommendations or experiences that anyone can provide. At this point my eyes hurt from staring at the screen too long and need to go outside. It's not easy trying to make sure you don't buy the wrong thing or waste your money. Thanks for any help from the group.

Jeff Saline
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hard vs soft - side luggage or saddlebags

Post by Jeff Saline » Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:09 pm

Todd, I took a very quick look at the site and the speedpack wide. Wow! I wouldn't want to use something like that for a short or long tour. Just too big and tall for me. I find Ortlieb Dry Saddlebags work great and adding a dry dufflebag above them will hold everything I need for a three week trip in adventure conditions. You can get the Ortliebs at: http://www.aerostich.com/packing-it-in/saddlebags/ortlieb-dry-bag-saddleb ags.html I think hardbags are good on paved surfaces and for security. Softbags are good for weight and protection of your body parts if you go down in rough conditions. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:29:43 -0000 "todd_mckinnon2000" writes:
> I spent the several hours today researching Caribou and Jesse and HT > and Givi hard cases and broken braces/brackets and risk of broken > ankles. I am starting to think I should seriously consider soft > bags with no bracket. I would be interested in weekend camping > trips, maybe a 1 week trip every now and then. Found Speedpack Wide > for a KLR at > http://www.bikegear.co.za/d8e95b00-c6fb-4998-b2f4-e8aaf5f9cf0b-9.html, > which seems to be nice and not touching the muffler, but not sure > available in the states. Are there any recommendations or > experiences that anyone can provide. At this point my eyes hurt > from staring at the screen too long and need to go outside. It's > not easy trying to make sure you don't buy the wrong thing or waste > your money. Thanks for any help from the group. > > > > ------------------------------------
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Kevin Powers
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hard vs soft - side luggage or saddlebags

Post by Kevin Powers » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:05 pm

Those Ortliebs are nice because they are waterproof and dustproof. If you get the inexpensive side racks off ebay you can use the Ortlieb quick release system, which is very slick and makes removing your gear a snap. Pair those with a waterproof duffle from Cabela's or Walmart and you're set to go camping for a week. Once you get out on that first trip you'll start sorting things out to fit your individual style. Keep an eye out on ADVrider.com for occasional deals in their flea market. Kevin
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:29 PM, todd_mckinnon2000 wrote: I spent the several hours today researching Caribou and Jesse and HT and Givi hard cases and broken braces/brackets and risk of broken ankles. I am starting to think I should seriously consider soft bags with no bracket. I would be interested in weekend camping trips, maybe a 1 week trip every now and then. Found Speedpack Wide for a KLR at http://www.bikegear.co.za/d8e95b00-c6fb-4998-b2f4-e8aaf5f9cf0b-9.html, which seems to be nice and not touching the muffler, but not sure available in the states. Are there any recommendations or experiences that anyone can provide. At this point my eyes hurt from staring at the screen too long and need to go outside. It's not easy trying to make sure you don't buy the wrong thing or waste your money. Thanks for any help from the group.
-- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN

revmaaatin
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hard vs soft - side luggage or saddlebags

Post by revmaaatin » Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:03 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "todd_mckinnon2000" wrote:
> > I spent the several hours today researching Caribou and Jesse and HT and Givi hard cases and broken braces/brackets and risk of broken ankles. I am starting to think I should seriously consider soft bags with no bracket. I would be interested in weekend camping trips, maybe a 1 week trip every now and then. Found Speedpack Wide for a KLR at http://www.bikegear.co.za/d8e95b00-c6fb-4998-b2f4-e8aaf5f9cf0b-9.html, which seems to be nice and not touching the muffler, but not sure available in the states. Are there any recommendations or experiences that anyone can provide. At this point my eyes hurt from staring at the screen too long and need to go outside. It's not easy trying to make sure you don't buy the wrong thing or waste your money. Thanks for any help from the group. >
Todd-- If you are asking for an opinion-- I would not walk across the street for a free set of hard bags--unless I was going to sell them immediately. During the GDR, Sept '08, I was pinned under my buddies bike (after he had been pinned--and fractured his ankle) resulting in my own ankle sprain/limp that I carry 18months later. My foot was bent/twisted into alignment resembling a ballerina on point. In defense of the AL bags, this bike had OEM foot pegs, that gave no traction to muddy feet--contributing significantly to the dirtnap and subsequent injury to both of us. With hard bags--and your foot comes off the peg to the rear--your foot is going to be trapped and bent just like mine. I am surprised my ankle was not fractured as well. Hard bags-- Others like them/love them. Like them now-- They won't when those bags nearly tear their foot off. I am convinced, you ride with them long enough, they will hurt you. Others will disagree, yawn. I use ortliebs. I have three sets of them. They have some degree of compression if you get caught under them. The rigid aluminum bags do not. You will have to decide how much risk you are willing to take. Of course, in some situations, no saddle bag will be good for your body if it falls on you at speed and drags you down the highway. ymmv. KLR rider, Rick C. and MRS C of Colorado have traveled extensively in remote North and Central America areas--and love their aluminum bags--without pain. shrug. One bad fall for me cured me for good. Regardless of what bag you use, do not ride this pig anywhere near water/mud without serrated foot pegs. You will regret doing so. revmaaatin.

spike55_bmw
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hard vs soft - side luggage or saddlebags

Post by spike55_bmw » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:14 pm

Periodically I fall down. I have these contoured racks that are sturdy latice type and successfully keep the bag off of the muffler. The left-side matches the right-side rack. I have the Dry Bags and so far I only have a small hole rubbed through at one spot. Some Gorilla Tape and 3M liquid electric tape fixed it. I also use two separate bags on the oversized tail rack. One is for the dry clean stuff. I keep my wet tent, ground cloth, and the dirty clothes as they build up in the other bag along with sleeping bag and air matress. The rain suit resides under bungy chord net over the tail mounted bags. The tank bag has more immediate stuff (glove, glasses, first aid, maps, etc) and I have since added the Wolfman panniers for my tools, air pump, chain lube, etc. This helps balance the bike better to minimize front wheel shimmy at speed. I stopped using the little tool box behind the seat (always under something and too small to carry real tools). A work-in-process but it works. There are so many black straps now holding the luggage on the bike it looks like its wearing women's lingerie. Once you set up camp, you can take off 'light' and have some fun. Don R100, A6F
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "todd_mckinnon2000" wrote: > > I spent the several hours today researching Caribou and Jesse and HT and Givi hard cases and broken braces/brackets and risk of broken ankles. I am starting to think I should seriously consider soft bags with no bracket. I would be interested in weekend camping trips, maybe a 1 week trip every now and then. Found Speedpack Wide for a KLR at http://www.bikegear.co.za/d8e95b00-c6fb-4998-b2f4-e8aaf5f9cf0b-9.html, which seems to be nice and not touching the muffler, but not sure available in the states. Are there any recommendations or experiences that anyone can provide. At this point my eyes hurt from staring at the screen too long and need to go outside. It's not easy trying to make sure you don't buy the wrong thing or waste your money. Thanks for any help from the group. >

spike55_bmw
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hard vs soft - side luggage or saddlebags

Post by spike55_bmw » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:35 pm

I was watching the show on hummingbirds. I meant that the sleeping bag and air matress are in with the dry clean clothes. Don R100, A6F
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "spike55_bmw" wrote: > > Periodically I fall down. I have these contoured racks that are sturdy latice type and successfully keep the bag off of the muffler. The left-side matches the right-side rack. I have the Dry Bags and so far I only have a small hole rubbed through at one spot. Some Gorilla Tape and 3M liquid electric tape fixed it. > > I also use two separate bags on the oversized tail rack. One is for the dry clean stuff. I keep my wet tent, ground cloth, and the dirty clothes as they build up in the other bag along with sleeping bag and air matress. The rain suit resides under bungy chord net over the tail mounted bags. > > The tank bag has more immediate stuff (glove, glasses, first aid, maps, etc) and I have since added the Wolfman panniers for my tools, air pump, chain lube, etc. This helps balance the bike better to minimize front wheel shimmy at speed. I stopped using the little tool box behind the seat (always under something and too small to carry real tools). > > A work-in-process but it works. There are so many black straps now holding the luggage on the bike it looks like its wearing women's lingerie. Once you set up camp, you can take off 'light' and have some fun. > > Don R100, A6F > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "todd_mckinnon2000" wrote: > > > > I spent the several hours today researching Caribou and Jesse and HT and Givi hard cases and broken braces/brackets and risk of broken ankles. I am starting to think I should seriously consider soft bags with no bracket. I would be interested in weekend camping trips, maybe a 1 week trip every now and then. Found Speedpack Wide for a KLR at http://www.bikegear.co.za/d8e95b00-c6fb-4998-b2f4-e8aaf5f9cf0b-9.html, which seems to be nice and not touching the muffler, but not sure available in the states. Are there any recommendations or experiences that anyone can provide. At this point my eyes hurt from staring at the screen too long and need to go outside. It's not easy trying to make sure you don't buy the wrong thing or waste your money. Thanks for any help from the group. > > >

Todd McKinnon
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hard vs soft - side luggage or saddlebags

Post by Todd McKinnon » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:12 pm

received your comments. tks, i will check further.
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Kevin Powers wrote: Those Ortliebs are nice because they are waterproof and dustproof. If you get the inexpensive side racks off ebay you can use the Ortlieb quick release system, which is very slick and makes removing your gear a snap. Pair those with a waterproof duffle from Cabela's or Walmart and you're set to go camping for a week. Once you get out on that first trip you'll start sorting things out to fit your individual style. Keep an eye out on ADVrider.com for occasional deals in their flea market. Kevin On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:29 PM, todd_mckinnon2000 wrote: I spent the several hours today researching Caribou and Jesse and HT and Givi hard cases and broken braces/brackets and risk of broken ankles. I am starting to think I should seriously consider soft bags with no bracket. I would be interested in weekend camping trips, maybe a 1 week trip every now and then. Found Speedpack Wide for a KLR at http://www.bikegear.co.za/d8e95b00-c6fb-4998-b2f4-e8aaf5f9cf0b-9.html, which seems to be nice and not touching the muffler, but not sure available in the states. Are there any recommendations or experiences that anyone can provide. At this point my eyes hurt from staring at the screen too long and need to go outside. It's not easy trying to make sure you don't buy the wrong thing or waste your money. Thanks for any help from the group.
-- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN

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hard vs soft - side luggage or saddlebags

Post by roncriswell@sbcglobal.net » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:26 am

I agree rev, hard bags save the bike but not the body. I have the old Kawasaki soft bags that work OK .....could maybe use a little more space but are easy to take off when stopping at a motel for the evening. Probably will replace them with Wolfman bags or something similar. Criswell
On Jan 10, 2010, at 6:03 PM, revmaaatin wrote:   --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "todd_mckinnon2000" wrote: > > I spent the several hours today researching Caribou and Jesse and HT and Givi hard cases and broken braces/brackets and risk of broken ankles. I am starting to think I should seriously consider soft bags with no bracket. I would be interested in weekend camping trips, maybe a 1 week trip every now and then. Found Speedpack Wide for a KLR at http://www.bikegear .co.za/d8e95b00- c6fb-4998- b2f4-e8aaf5f9cf0 b-9.html, which seems to be nice and not touching the muffler, but not sure available in the states. Are there any recommendations or experiences that anyone can provide. At this point my eyes hurt from staring at the screen too long and need to go outside. It's not easy trying to make sure you don't buy the wrong thing or waste your money. Thanks for any help from the group. > Todd-- If you are asking for an opinion-- I would not walk across the street for a free set of hard bags--unless I was going to sell them immediately. During the GDR, Sept '08, I was pinned under my buddies bike (after he had been pinned--and fractured his ankle) resulting in my own ankle sprain/limp that I carry 18months later. My foot was bent/twisted into alignment resembling a ballerina on point. In defense of the AL bags, this bike had OEM foot pegs, that gave no traction to muddy feet--contributing significantly to the dirtnap and subsequent injury to both of us. With hard bags--and your foot comes off the peg to the rear--your foot is going to be trapped and bent just like mine. I am surprised my ankle was not fractured as well. Hard bags-- Others like them/love them. Like them now-- They won't when those bags nearly tear their foot off. I am convinced, you ride with them long enough, they will hurt you. Others will disagree, yawn. I use ortliebs. I have three sets of them. They have some degree of compression if you get caught under them. The rigid aluminum bags do not. You will have to decide how much risk you are willing to take. Of course, in some situations, no saddle bag will be good for your body if it falls on you at speed and drags you down the highway. ymmv. KLR rider, Rick C. and MRS C of Colorado have traveled extensively in remote North and Central America areas--and love their aluminum bags--without pain. shrug. One bad fall for me cured me for good. Regardless of what bag you use, do not ride this pig anywhere near water/mud without serrated foot pegs. You will regret doing so. revmaaatin.

transalp 1
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oem rear tire wear

Post by transalp 1 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:44 am

I recently replaced the original rear tire on my 09'  with another OEM Dunlop. It had about 4,200 miles on it and the 2mm tread depth recommended for replacement - down the center of the tire.  The edges were fine. That said, I ride on the road 99% of the time and on what was the thinnest part of the tire. It made sense to replace it. Pressures? From new - knowing I'd be on pavement all the time -  I skipped the 21psiF/21psi R (28psi with a load) and went with 29-30psi front & 33psi rear instead. The front tire is a little feathered - as a knobby might with road use. But, it rides fine has plenty of tread. It'll get replaced with the next rear tire. At that point, I'm installing Avon Gripsters.
 
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