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[Charles]

I actually prefer it. It goes perfectly with my Ebony 2009 KLR! Chuck F. NE PA

On Nov 9, 2009, at 20:34, Mike Frey wrote: > What's the fuss over black muslin in the White House? > > Muslin is a nice, finely woven fabric and coloring it > black does not seem so bad to me. > > Sure, the most common muslin color is white, but > through the ages, muslin has come in many colors! > > Maybe they wanted dark curtains to set the mood in the > room, and chose black muslin as the theme. Black > muslin curtains sound tasteful to me, given the right > overall room decor. > > Let's not discriminate against muslin of any color. > Some might even prefer theirs in Kawasaki Green! > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

[Thomas Komjathy]

Whaaaa...I did! ________________________________ From: SM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:21:00 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: loud pipes - freedom? Fred, I apologize. I certainly didn't think anyone could construe "commie" as an insult, and I screwed up, I thought one or two people wouldn't get it, I had no idea what a train wreck that post was going to cause. I mean, does anyone in their right mind think someone would bend a piece of straight pipe and put a Pep Boys tip on it? LOL Thanks CA Stu A13

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote: > > My explaination of what Stu was trying to do was for the benefit of those of you that are new to this list. To prevent anyone taking him seriously was what I was after. I guess I failed. Sorry you were offended by his remarks. "Fishing" on this list is never a good idea. It isn't against list rules but calling out a list member is getting close to "no personal attacks". > > Stu has been a member of this list for a long time. This isn't the first time an incedent like this has happened and I was only trying to prevent any ruffled feathers. Stu's "commie" remark should have been taken with the same grain of salt as the rest of his comment. If you have thin skin, this list might not be the best place for you. > > Fred > List Admin. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick McCauley]

Thank You Charles. My use of the word "black" was not meant to be prejudice in any way. My Sister and her husband are unable to have children, so they adopted 4 children over the years. The oldest is now 19, the 3 younger ones are 10, 10, & 8 years old. The youngest 3 are black. As a matter of fact they make Obama look caucasion. I will however admit that i have great suspicion of Muslim / Islam or whatever people. I know that profiling is not politically correct, but I am not likely to get on a plain with someone wearing a towel on their head. Try telling the family of the 13 dead soldiers in Texas that profiling is bad. This whole thread started because I mentioned the South Park episode against loud pipes. I now regret bringing it up. Rick A17 ________________________________ From: Charles To: "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:11:10 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: loud pipes - freedom? Just curious - not taking sides here.... But I am trying to see why this NKLR issue has some upset...... Isn't he black? I believe he calls himself black in his book. He certainly appears so on TV and in photos. Is it wrong to call him black if he calls himself black? He calls white people "white people". I've heard him do it myself.... it's in his book, too. Calling a black man a "black man" is not a bigoted statement last I checked. Bigots usually use other, less socially acceptable "terms" or "slurs". As far as being muslim, I've seen where he has admitted to that at one time, too. No, it certainly isn't played on the news every night, but HE said it himself.... If he can say it, why can't anyone else? Maybe he isn't muslim anymore, but he once claimed the title for himself..... Is the word muslim a bigot's term? What is the problem with stating something that a person apparently has claimed himself? As I said, just curious..... It seems that there us an awful lot of heat being given for stating something that happens to be, apparently, factual. Unless, of course, people think there is something wrong with being a black, a muslim, or both. In which case the offended person may have more issues than those that make such statements. In other words, to make a long post short, just how is this offensive, unless one CHOOSES to be offended? Chuck F. NE PA

On Nov 9, 2009, at 18:35, "Jud" wrote: > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Rick McCauley > wrote: > >> we have a black muslim in the White house. > > There's a comment best reserved for the internet, as you would be > asked to leave if you made it in polite company. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

The thing about profiling or non profiling that really pisses me off .... is my wife's 81 year old mother has osteoporosis really bad. She has shrunk at least 1 foot in height in the 40 plus years I have known her. She has a back brace as she is in that hooked over body position from this disease. Guess what? The airport security people make her take it off every time she flies (which is fairly often) as it triggers the alarm. She also has Alzheimer's and forgot and left it after a recent flight and had to buy a new one. She and her husband shouldn't be still flying but they gotta go see the grandkids and great grandkids. We all know who is responsible for terrorist attacks and they usually have a name ..... much like our president 's name....... but you can't profile thanks to the ACLU. Criswell

On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Rick McCauley wrote: > Thank You Charles. My use of the word "black" was not meant to be > prejudice in any way. > My Sister and her husband are unable to have children, so they > adopted 4 children over the years. > The oldest is now 19, the 3 younger ones are 10, 10, & 8 years old. > The youngest 3 are black. As a matter of fact > they make Obama look caucasion. I will however admit that i have > great suspicion of Muslim / Islam or whatever people. > I know that profiling is not politically correct, but I am not > likely to get on a plain with someone wearing a towel on their head. > Try telling the family of the 13 dead soldiers in Texas that > profiling is bad. > > This whole thread started because I mentioned the South Park > episode against loud pipes. I now regret bringing it up. > > Rick > A17 > > ________________________________ > From: Charles > To: "DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: loud pipes - freedom? > > > Just curious - not taking sides here.... But I am trying to see why > this NKLR issue has some upset...... > > Isn't he black? I believe he calls himself black in his book. He > certainly appears so on TV and in photos. Is it wrong to call him > black if he calls himself black? He calls white people "white > people". I've heard him do it myself.... it's in his book, too. > > Calling a black man a "black man" is not a bigoted statement last I > checked. Bigots usually use other, less socially acceptable "terms" > or "slurs". > > As far as being muslim, I've seen where he has admitted to that at one > time, too. No, it certainly isn't played on the news every night, but > HE said it himself.... If he can say it, why can't anyone else? > Maybe he isn't muslim anymore, but he once claimed the title for > himself..... Is the word muslim a bigot's term? > > What is the problem with stating something that a person apparently > has claimed himself? > > As I said, just curious..... It seems that there us an awful lot of > heat being given for stating something that happens to be, apparently, > factual. > > Unless, of course, people think there is something wrong with being a > black, a muslim, or both. In which case the offended person may have > more issues than those that make such statements. > > In other words, to make a long post short, just how is this offensive, > unless one CHOOSES to be offended? > > Chuck F. > NE PA > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 18:35, "Jud" wrote: > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Rick McCauley > > wrote: > > > >> we have a black muslim in the White house. > > > > There's a comment best reserved for the internet, as you would be > > asked to leave if you made it in polite company. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick McCauley]

That is ridiculous. Rick A17 ________________________________ From: "roncriswell@..." To: Rick McCauley Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 8:49:57 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: loud pipes - freedom? The thing about profiling or non profiling that really pisses me off .... is my wife's 81 year old mother has osteoporosis really bad. She has shrunk at least 1 foot in height in the 40 plus years I have known her. She has a back brace as she is in that hooked over body position from this disease. Guess what? The airport security people make her take it off every time she flies (which is fairly often) as it triggers the alarm. She also has Alzheimer's and forgot and left it after a recent flight and had to buy a new one. She and her husband shouldn't be still flying but they gotta go see the grandkids and great grandkids. We all know who is responsible for terrorist attacks and they usually have a name ..... much like our president 's name....... but you can't profile thanks to the ACLU. Criswell

On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Rick McCauley wrote: >Thank You Charles. My use of the word "black" was not meant to be prejudice in any way. >My Sister and her husband are unable to have children, so they adopted 4 children over the years. >The oldest is now 19, the 3 younger ones are 10, 10, & 8 years old. The youngest 3 are black. As a matter of fact >they make Obama look caucasion. I will however admit that i have great suspicion of Muslim / Islam or whatever people. >I know that profiling is not politically correct, but I am not likely to get on a plain with someone wearing a towel on their head. >Try telling the family of the 13 dead soldiers in Texas that profiling is bad. > >This whole thread started because I mentioned the South Park episode against loud pipes. I now regret bringing it up. > >Rick >A17 > >____________ _________ _________ __ >From: Charles >To: "DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com" >Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 6:11:10 PM >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: loud pipes - freedom? > > >Just curious - not taking sides here.... But I am trying to see why >this NKLR issue has some upset...... > >Isn't he black? I believe he calls himself black in his book. He >certainly appears so on TV and in photos. Is it wrong to call him >black if he calls himself black? He calls white people "white >people". I've heard him do it myself.... it's in his book, too. > >Calling a black man a "black man" is not a bigoted statement last I >checked. Bigots usually use other, less socially acceptable "terms" >or "slurs". > >As far as being muslim, I've seen where he has admitted to that at one >time, too. No, it certainly isn't played on the news every night, but >HE said it himself.... If he can say it, why can't anyone else? >Maybe he isn't muslim anymore, but he once claimed the title for >himself..... Is the word muslim a bigot's term? > >What is the problem with stating something that a person apparently >has claimed himself? > >As I said, just curious..... It seems that there us an awful lot of >heat being given for stating something that happens to be, apparently, >factual. > >Unless, of course, people think there is something wrong with being a >black, a muslim, or both. In which case the offended person may have >more issues than those that make such statements. > >In other words, to make a long post short, just how is this offensive, >unless one CHOOSES to be offended? > >Chuck F. >NE PA > >On Nov 9, 2009, at 18:35, "Jud" wrote: > >> >> >> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Rick McCauley >> wrote: >> >>> we have a black muslim in the White house. >> >> There's a comment best reserved for the internet, as you would be >> asked to leave if you made it in polite company. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[klr6501995]

Thank you for articulating many of my thoughts. Almost got myself hurt at a bike shop standing toe- toe with a white supremecist bad mouthing my commander in chief ( i took a oath) who just 20 min. earlier bragged his grand mother was full blood seminole. go figure. Dear God, I love freedom and this nation.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Charles wrote: > > Just curious - not taking sides here.... But I am trying to see why > this NKLR issue has some upset...... > > Isn't he black? I believe he calls himself black in his book. He > certainly appears so on TV and in photos. Is it wrong to call him > black if he calls himself black? He calls white people "white > people". I've heard him do it myself.... it's in his book, too. > > Calling a black man a "black man" is not a bigoted statement last I > checked. Bigots usually use other, less socially acceptable "terms" > or "slurs". > > As far as being muslim, I've seen where he has admitted to that at one > time, too. No, it certainly isn't played on the news every night, but > HE said it himself.... If he can say it, why can't anyone else? > Maybe he isn't muslim anymore, but he once claimed the title for > himself..... Is the word muslim a bigot's term? > > What is the problem with stating something that a person apparently > has claimed himself? > > As I said, just curious..... It seems that there us an awful lot of > heat being given for stating something that happens to be, apparently, > factual. > > Unless, of course, people think there is something wrong with being a > black, a muslim, or both. In which case the offended person may have > more issues than those that make such statements. > > In other words, to make a long post short, just how is this offensive, > unless one CHOOSES to be offended? > > Chuck F. > NE PA > > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 18:35, "Jud" wrote: > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCauley > > wrote: > > > >> we have a black muslim in the White house. > > > > There's a comment best reserved for the internet, as you would be > > asked to leave if you made it in polite company. >

[Charles]

Rick, Well, I watched the South Park episode, and it was funny. I'm glad you brought it up. I am sort of an "occasional" South Park fan. Sometimes they're really good, and this is one of those times. Sometimes they're not so good. This one would be a keeper if I had it on DVR. As far as "color" is involved, I could care less if the president was green. I just thought it was weird that some people "volunteered" to become offended because the color "black" was mentioned. Or the word muslim. Like either term is a slur. There is nothing wrong with being black, or muslim, as far as I know. So why be offended? It's just plain silly. I dated a girl, Brenda, for quite some time, when I was in high school; she was born to mixed parents. I could have ended up married to her - I really liked her, but things ended up not working out (on her end). She too was darker than the president. She called herself "black". She did not have a problem with it; it is NOT a pejorative. Also, I am married to a Jewish girl. OH, and I have Indian blood (OK, to be politically correct: Native American, but I call myself "part Indian") running through my veins. I've got more mixed blood in my veins than the president. So, anyone want to call me a bigot or a racist? I'd have to hate myself first. LOL! We have come to a point where people get offended on purpose, and I don't understand this. Chuck F. NE PA

----- Original Message ----- From: Rick McCauley Thank You Charles. My use of the word "black" was not meant to be prejudice in any way. My Sister and her husband are unable to have children, so they adopted 4 children over the years. The oldest is now 19, the 3 younger ones are 10, 10, & 8 years old. The youngest 3 are black. As a matter of fact they make Obama look caucasion. I will however admit that i have great suspicion of Muslim / Islam or whatever people. I know that profiling is not politically correct, but I am not likely to get on a plain with someone wearing a towel on their head. Try telling the family of the 13 dead soldiers in Texas that profiling is bad. This whole thread started because I mentioned the South Park episode against loud pipes. I now regret bringing it up. Rick A17 ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.58/2493 - Release Date: 11/09/09 19:40:00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Charles]

That's the funny thing about these "White Supremacist" morons; they probably have more mixed blood in him than the people they hate. Chuck F. NE PA

----- Original Message ----- From: klr6501995 Thank you for articulating many of my thoughts. Almost got myself hurt at a bike shop standing toe- toe with a white supremecist bad mouthing my commander in chief ( i took a oath) who just 20 min. earlier bragged his grand mother was full blood seminole. go figure. Dear God, I love freedom and this nation. ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.58/2493 - Release Date: 11/09/09 19:40:00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

Ahh, Politics. I promise this will be my only post on the subject. There is no right written anywhere that says you have the right to be free from offense. Some people have thin skin, that is the way of things. I would much rather be offended on a daily basis than be restricted in what I can say, to whom, and when. Personally, I don't walk around looking to take offense. That must be a terrible way to live. As for the President: I don't care if he is black or a closet Muslim as long as he does what is good for the country. I disagree vehemently with him on policy issues but in the end, he is my president. I don't wish for his failure, as it would be wishing for the failure of my country. I believe he was a poor choice for president not because of his background, but because of his lack of experience and his policy positions. His lack of experience and thoughtfulness has lead to some serious gaffes that, as a veteran make me a little angry. Such as giving the reigning British monarch an iPod, giving a "shout-out" before commenting about Ft. Hood, and failing to lower the White House flag to half-staff until hounded to do so by the citizens of Texas. THOSE are my issues with our CinC. Not his skin tone or religion. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:28:56 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR: loud pipes - freedom? That's the funny thing about these "White Supremacist" morons; they probably have more mixed blood in him than the people they hate. Chuck F. NE PA ----- Original Message ----- From: klr6501995 Thank you for articulating many of my thoughts. Almost got myself hurt at a bike shop standing toe- toe with a white supremecist bad mouthing my commander in chief ( i took a oath) who just 20 min. earlier bragged his grand mother was full blood seminole. go figure. Dear God, I love freedom and this nation. ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.58/2493 - Release Date: 11/09/09 19:40:00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Russell Scott]

The more you observe politics, the more you've got to admit that each party is worse than the other. The only difference between death and taxes is that death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets. The schools ain't what they used to be and never was. The worst thing that happens to you may be the best thing for you if you don't let it get the best of you. There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. Will Rogers [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]