was oil consumption 2009 klr **correction**/now, jake's hijack

[glennlpf]

I have an '09 (and an FJR1300) and I noticed that if you stall the KLR that you HAVE to put it in neutral to re-start it. Not so with my FJR. Upon initial startup, this isn't a big deal, but if you stall it at a light (which I do more seldom now than when I first got the bike), you have to hunt around for neutral before it will restart. On my FJR, I just kick it over no matter what gear I'm in (as long as the clutch is pulled in, of course). The differences in the clutch between the two bikes occasionally catches me off guard and I'll stall the KLR at a stop. They are very different kinds of rides and I really enjoy both of them for what they are good for. I live in East Tennessee and we have loads of great riding for both types of bikes here. So, my question is: What wire needs to be jumpered or cut to disable this "function?" I don't mind the kick-stand interlock or the clutch interlock, but the "it hasta be in neutral before it will restart" interlock is just plain annoying. And annoying to the drivers behind me as I furiously hunt for and overshoot neutral. Also, I imagine this could be a pain out on the trail on a hill or something. Do other years do this or is this something "new for '09?"

[n9udl]

My '08 will start in gear just fine.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "glennlpf" wrote: > > I have an '09 (and an FJR1300) and I noticed that if you stall the KLR that you HAVE to put it in neutral to re-start it. Not so with my FJR. Upon initial startup, this isn't a big deal, but if you stall it at a light (which I do more seldom now than when I first got the bike), you have to hunt around for neutral before it will restart. On my FJR, I just kick it over no matter what gear I'm in (as long as the clutch is pulled in, of course). > > The differences in the clutch between the two bikes occasionally catches me off guard and I'll stall the KLR at a stop. They are very different kinds of rides and I really enjoy both of them for what they are good for. I live in East Tennessee and we have loads of great riding for both types of bikes here. > > So, my question is: What wire needs to be jumpered or cut to disable this "function?" > > I don't mind the kick-stand interlock or the clutch interlock, but the "it hasta be in neutral before it will restart" interlock is just plain annoying. And annoying to the drivers behind me as I furiously hunt for and overshoot neutral. Also, I imagine this could be a pain out on the trail on a hill or something. > > Do other years do this or is this something "new for '09?" >

[kjedick]

_____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n9udl Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:32 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Starter interlock My KLR 09 will start in gear just fine. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "glennlpf" wrote:

> > I have an '09 (and an FJR1300) and I noticed that if you stall the KLR

that you HAVE to put it in neutral to re-start it. Not so with my FJR. Upon initial startup, this isn't a big deal, but if you stall it at a light (which I do more seldom now than when I first got the bike), you have to hunt around for neutral before it will restart. On my FJR, I just kick it over no matter what gear I'm in (as long as the clutch is pulled in, of course).

> > The differences in the clutch between the two bikes occasionally catches

me off guard and I'll stall the KLR at a stop. They are very different kinds of rides and I really enjoy both of them for what they are good for. I live in East Tennessee and we have loads of great riding for both types of bikes here.

> > So, my question is: What wire needs to be jumpered or cut to disable this

"function?"

> > I don't mind the kick-stand interlock or the clutch interlock, but the "it

hasta be in neutral before it will restart" interlock is just plain annoying. And annoying to the drivers behind me as I furiously hunt for and overshoot neutral. Also, I imagine this could be a pain out on the trail on a hill or something.

> > Do other years do this or is this something "new for '09?" >

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[Jeff Saline]

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:11:21 -0000 "glennlpf" writes:

> I have an '09 (and an FJR1300) and I noticed that if you stall the > KLR that you HAVE to put it in neutral to re-start it. Not so with > my FJR. Upon initial startup, this isn't a big deal, but if you > stall it at a light (which I do more seldom now than when I first > got the bike), you have to hunt around for neutral before it will > restart. On my FJR, I just kick it over no matter what gear I'm in > (as long as the clutch is pulled in, of course). > > The differences in the clutch between the two bikes occasionally > catches me off guard and I'll stall the KLR at a stop. They are > very different kinds of rides and I really enjoy both of them for > what they are good for. I live in East Tennessee and we have loads > of great riding for both types of bikes here. > > So, my question is: What wire needs to be jumpered or cut to > disable this "function?" > > I don't mind the kick-stand interlock or the clutch interlock, but > the "it hasta be in neutral before it will restart" interlock is > just plain annoying. And annoying to the drivers behind me as I > furiously hunt for and overshoot neutral. Also, I imagine this > could be a pain out on the trail on a hill or something. > > Do other years do this or is this something "new for '09?"

<><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> No experience here with the 08s and 09s but I bet there is an adjustment on the clutch switch to allow you to fix this issue. Maybe take a look at the switch and see if you can gently move it. On the earlier versions it's easily adjustable which is good as it can sometimes need adjustment from normal wear and tear. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Direct VA-Home loans What are your VA mortgage benefits? Get quick and concrete numbers. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=p1dhR-0kC7dyuR6Py0tZQgAAJ1DWfJIDP-R0_NC3mMpGFS0kAAQAAAAFAAAAALQEoT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAclKQAAAAA=

[sh8knj8kster]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Martin" wrote:

> > The KLR remains one of the best values of $/smiles. > or is it smiles divided by dollars? > Ride it for what it is. > A genuine cult smile maker. > smile. > > revmaaatin. >

~~~rat own rev. Been down that road buying parts all in the name to make the steed faster, etc. the KLR is good right out of the box. Course, the doo should be done=:-)...FWIW I'm doing mine right now, sorta. it's on the lift, the outer cover is off...Jeff Saline determined there is a missing wahser on one of the starter gear shafts (part #92022) No, Jeff isn't here and I'm not at Jeff's...i sent him some pics, he pointed out I might be missing one of the washers Opps!, I'm hijacking this thread...my bad i'll start another thread, eventually=:-) Jake (hijack) Wilson Reddick Fla. If he's got golf clubs in his truck or a camper in his driveway, I don't hire him. --Lou Holtz, football coach

> > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > > > I think many people imagine a HP increase after a mod is done. > > Like glass packs on your car. Sounds louder, so it must be faster. > > In reality glass packs resricted flow, even though they were straight thru. > > The internal fins caused flow restricting turbulence. > > I think we all would like a little more oomph from the KLR, but in reality, > > it isn't there, without things like a hotter cams, bigger piston, higher compression etc. > > Even then it is still a 650 single. It's long life potetial makes up for its power shortage in > > my opinion. And when you think about it, the KLR is just as fast as all but the fastest of cars. > > It just isn't fast for a motorcycle. > > > > Rick > > A17 > > > > > ahhhh! > The all elusive chase for KLr HP--a continuing discussion. > = An exercise in pouring money down a rat hole. > > H.P or CC's matters not when having an earth/vehicle/motorcycle incident (= falling down). Your body mass cares not that it was 35Hp or 105 hp bike when it spits you out at 75mph. +/- etc. Bones break at low/high speed; sometimes they don't. > > What will matter is how well you are dressed, > and/or your ability to ride the bike until all violent motions stops. > Training classes at MSF will help. > > Perhaps the best farkle you can buy is protective clothing. I have found mine to me most helpful. > > The KLR remains one of the best values of $/smiles. > or is it smiles divided by dollars? > Ride it for what it is. > A genuine cult smile maker. > smile. > > revmaaatin. >

[glennlpf]

Where is the clutch interlock switch adjustment? I looked and all I see is the cable adjustment and the wire connector. Is the adjustment inside the clutch lever housing?

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:11:21 -0000 "glennlpf" > writes: > > I have an '09 (and an FJR1300) and I noticed that if you stall the > > KLR that you HAVE to put it in neutral to re-start it. Not so with > > my FJR. Upon initial startup, this isn't a big deal, but if you > > stall it at a light (which I do more seldom now than when I first > > got the bike), you have to hunt around for neutral before it will > > restart. On my FJR, I just kick it over no matter what gear I'm in > > (as long as the clutch is pulled in, of course). > > > > The differences in the clutch between the two bikes occasionally > > catches me off guard and I'll stall the KLR at a stop. They are > > very different kinds of rides and I really enjoy both of them for > > what they are good for. I live in East Tennessee and we have loads > > of great riding for both types of bikes here. > > > > So, my question is: What wire needs to be jumpered or cut to > > disable this "function?" > > > > I don't mind the kick-stand interlock or the clutch interlock, but > > the "it hasta be in neutral before it will restart" interlock is > > just plain annoying. And annoying to the drivers behind me as I > > furiously hunt for and overshoot neutral. Also, I imagine this > > could be a pain out on the trail on a hill or something. > > > > Do other years do this or is this something "new for '09?" > <><><><><><><> > <><><><><><><> > > No experience here with the 08s and 09s but I bet there is an adjustment > on the clutch switch to allow you to fix this issue. Maybe take a look > at the switch and see if you can gently move it. On the earlier versions > it's easily adjustable which is good as it can sometimes need adjustment > from normal wear and tear. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > > > . > ____________________________________________________________ > Direct VA-Home loans > What are your VA mortgage benefits? Get quick and concrete numbers. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=p1dhR-0kC7dyuR6Py0tZQgAAJ1DWfJIDP-R0_NC3mMpGFS0kAAQAAAAFAAAAALQEoT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAclKQAAAAA= >

[Jeff Khoury]

my '09 will not start unless it is in neutral. I assumed this was planned behaviour. I plan on disabling them all, though so I haven't even looked to see if the clutch switch even existed. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- From: "kjedick" To: "n9udl" , "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:52:25 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Starter interlock _____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of n9udl Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:32 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Starter interlock My KLR 09 will start in gear just fine. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "glennlpf" wrote: > > I have an '09 (and an FJR1300) and I noticed that if you stall the KLR that you HAVE to put it in neutral to re-start it. Not so with my FJR. Upon initial startup, this isn't a big deal, but if you stall it at a light (which I do more seldom now than when I first got the bike), you have to hunt around for neutral before it will restart. On my FJR, I just kick it over no matter what gear I'm in (as long as the clutch is pulled in, of course). > > The differences in the clutch between the two bikes occasionally catches me off guard and I'll stall the KLR at a stop. They are very different kinds of rides and I really enjoy both of them for what they are good for. I live in East Tennessee and we have loads of great riding for both types of bikes here. > > So, my question is: What wire needs to be jumpered or cut to disable this "function?" > > I don't mind the kick-stand interlock or the clutch interlock, but the "it hasta be in neutral before it will restart" interlock is just plain annoying. And annoying to the drivers behind me as I furiously hunt for and overshoot neutral. Also, I imagine this could be a pain out on the trail on a hill or something. > > Do other years do this or is this something "new for '09?" > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.29/2455 - Release Date: 10/24/09 06:43:00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Dennis Griffin]

Hi Glen, Is your clutch lever free play adjusted correctly, without excess free travel? Have you tried pulling the clutch lever fully against the grip to allow starting? If you have a finger or two in there, they may be acting as an "interlock". You may start the bike w/o fingers between the lever & grip , assuming you habitually pull in the clutch lever for starting (not necessary if in neutral), but when riding, I know I keep my pinkie & ring fingers wrapped around the grip and my middle & index fingers on the lever. Dennis KD7CAC

On Oct 24, 2009, at 6:11 PM, glennlpf wrote: > I have an '09 (and an FJR1300) and I noticed that if you stall the > KLR that you HAVE to put it in neutral to re-start it. Not so with > my FJR. Upon initial startup, this isn't a big deal, but if you > stall it at a light (which I do more seldom now than when I first > got the bike), you have to hunt around for neutral before it will > restart. On my FJR, I just kick it over no matter what gear I'm in > (as long as the clutch is pulled in, of course). . > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]