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[Jeff Khoury]

I like that... and I also like the pure adrenaline rush of bombing down a trail or a twisty canyon road... pushing the envelope of the combined performance of man and machine. Depends on the mood. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:00:15 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade Nothing wrong with that. The idea is to enjoy riding. If your riding in a situation where the hair is standing up on the back of your neck, and your knuckles are white, the fun factor just dropped. I have had some of my best times on an old dirt road, or a secluded country blacktop riding along about 40 to 45 mph. The KLR sure doesn't mind, and you see a lot more detail in the surrounding scenery. Rick A17 --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Jud Jones < judjonzz@... > wrote: I admit, I ride like a little old lady. Ask anybody. On 8/17/09 11:18 AM, "roncriswell@ sbcglobal. net" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick McCauley]

It sure does. Just last week I was feeling brave (or stupid). There is a back road I can take on my way to work that has a long steep downhill in it. I turned onto that road, got into fifth, pegged the throttle, and laid on the tank. I held it till I was at the bottom of the hill. I saw 106 on the speedo. Anyone know what redline works out to in mph on the KLR? I have gone much faster than 106 on assorted 1+ litre bikes I used to own, but on the KLR, and at a much more mature (gutless) age, it was a wild ride. Rick A17

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: "Rick McCauley" Cc: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 3:40 PM I like that... and I also like the pure adrenaline rush of bombing down a trail or a twisty canyon road... pushing the envelope of the combined performance of man and machine. Depends on the mood. -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: "dsn klr650" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:00:15 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade Nothing wrong with that. The idea is to enjoy riding. If your riding in a situation where the hair is standing up on the back of your neck, and your knuckles are white, the fun factor just dropped. I have had some of my best times on an old dirt road, or a secluded country blacktop riding along about 40 to 45 mph. The KLR sure doesn't mind, and you see a lot more detail in the surrounding scenery. Rick A17 --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Jud Jones < judjonzz@msn. com > wrote: I admit, I ride like a little old lady. Ask anybody. On 8/17/09 11:18 AM, "roncriswell@ sbcglobal. net" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jud Jones wrote:

> > I admit, I ride like a little old lady. Ask anybody.

yeah, right. just don't ask a little old rev.

[Jeff Khoury]

Around here on the grooved pavement, anything over 85 on the KLR is "exciting", with the funky feeling that comes with that harmonic wobble that develops. On smooth slab, it's much better, but still scary. I've had mine to about 105 and it felt like I was flying. The KLR's aerodynamics, tires and suspension design make high speed a harrowing experience (for me). When I ride my brother's R1, 100MPH feels like a nice, comfortable cruising speed and can be reached in two shakes of a lamb's tail. I was riding back to my house on it the other day on a nice, flat street late at night. I was in third going about 45. I squeezed my knees together, leaned down on the tank and rolled the throttle wide open for about 6 seconds (which seemed like an eternity, BTW). In the space of 4 (rather short) blocks I had rocketed into triple digits. Your mind does that time-dilation thing where everything feels like it's going into slow motion. I had an endorphin high that lasted for a good half hour. I've been riding for nearly 25 years now and there's still nothing like it. If you haven't ridden a liter sport bike, I suggest you try it, even if it's just for a quick jaunt. I think my next street bike is gonna be an FZ1, which is essentially an R1 that this pushin'-40 guy can ride. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:05:52 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade It sure does. Just last week I was feeling brave (or stupid). There is a back road I can take on my way to work that has a long steep downhill in it. I turned onto that road, got into fifth, pegged the throttle, and laid on the tank. I held it till I was at the bottom of the hill. I saw 106 on the speedo. Anyone know what redline works out to in mph on the KLR? I have gone much faster than 106 on assorted 1+ litre bikes I used to own, but on the KLR, and at a much more mature (gutless) age, it was a wild ride. Rick A17 --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Jeff Khoury < jeff@... > wrote: From: Jeff Khoury < jeff@... > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: "Rick McCauley" < ramachm12@... > Cc: "dsn klr650" < dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 3:40 PM I like that... and I also like the pure adrenaline rush of bombing down a trail or a twisty canyon road... pushing the envelope of the combined performance of man and machine. Depends on the mood. -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: "dsn klr650" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:00:15 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade Nothing wrong with that. The idea is to enjoy riding. If your riding in a situation where the hair is standing up on the back of your neck, and your knuckles are white, the fun factor just dropped. I have had some of my best times on an old dirt road, or a secluded country blacktop riding along about 40 to 45 mph. The KLR sure doesn't mind, and you see a lot more detail in the surrounding scenery. Rick A17 --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Jud Jones < judjonzz@msn. com > wrote: I admit, I ride like a little old lady. Ask anybody. On 8/17/09 11:18 AM, "roncriswell@ sbcglobal. net" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Paul Statham]

Guys I have tried to sets of mefos. the first set I got 19,500 kilometers from the rear . The tire road good but I noticed cracking around the perimeter of the tire about at the edge of the tread. This was mostly paved roads with some gravel but temperatures were 50 to 80 degrees F through the day. We did a cross Canada trip . I replaced the rear with another Mefo this time the trip was in hot weather lots of times above 90 degrees I only put about 10,000 kilometers on it. It also cracked around the perimeter but then started to chunk off the tread. I am replacing with a TKC tonight. I think I am done with Mefos. Paul Statham

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Jim Douglas wrote: From: Jim Douglas Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade To: Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Received: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:26 PM Maybe try the MEFO Explorer? Have them on now but little millage but have read that they are good all around tire and read that some folks were getting more miles than the stock tires. They are quite a bit more than then stock tires if price is a consideration. > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > , "jbukwyld" wrote: > > > > I just bought a used '08 KLR with Dunlop 606's that are about due to > be changed. Anyone feel like there is something better than TKC's for > mostly off road touring and adventure? > > > > Dunlop D606. As good on road, much better off road, last at least as > long, and significantly cheaper. The only down is that the Dunlops can > be noisy. I have a hard time seeing the appeal of the TKCs, especially > after seeing one vaporize in 1200 miles on a R1150GS. > > -- *Genesis Software Internet Email Confidentiality* The information contained in this message, including any attachments is privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that it is strictly prohibited (a) to disseminate, distribute or copy this communication or any of the information contained in it, or (b) to take any action based on the information in it. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and then please delete it from your system. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Craig Kahler]

Jeff, You say the side walls are so stiff, you can sit on the unmounted tire like a stool. Do you think in case of a flat, you could still ride on this tire? Craig Kahler

--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] tire upgrade To: "E Hines" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 7:36 PM My stock rear lasted me 5600 miles. I just replaced it with a Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara and went on a 1200 mile odyssey from LA to San Jose via PCH. It is a competent road tire and while it is quite a bit more noisy than the stock one, it feels very comfortable both on and off road, even in the twisties of PCH through Big Sur. I did some light trail with it and it felt good, but I never ran into any mud, so I can't say how it will go. I will post updates as I wear the thing down. That being said, it was expensive and the sidewalls are VERY thick. Mounting it was a chore, even though I was using a No-Mar tire machine. In fact the sidewalls were so thick, before I mounted it I sat on the tire like a stool and it held my (180lb) weight with very little deformation. This makes sense seeing that it was supposedly designed for the R1100GS-A, which is a MUCH heavier bike than the KLR. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Hines" To: "David Giuliani" , "DSN KLR650" Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:19:36 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] tire upgrade THE TKC's where the best road tires I have had on the KLR. They allowed me to push the KLR much more in the curves than any other tire. I only got 3000 miles out of the rear ( it was a racing slick when I took it off) and only 4000 miles out of the front. They were ok in the dirt. I have since gone to the kenda's and so far I am happy with them. I have over 5000 smiles of mixed riding on them I should get another 2000 miles out of them, but I have to slow done a little in the curves. They are much better off road. I am on my 4th set of tires in 17000 smiles...... ... I hope this helps....... ... ____________ _________ _________ __ From: David Giuliani < foolstools@gmail. com > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:40:10 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] tire upgrade I've gone through four IRC rear tires (two fronts)and none of the rear lasted more than 3000 miles, in fact that was pushing it. This time I splurged and bought front and rear TKC80. I used to keep the IRC at 26/28 lbs. no matter the road surface. The max pressure shown on the side wall for the TKC80 is 40psi. That seemed a little excessive so I tried 34/36 this morning. They felt great on the road, quicker through turns, but got a little squirrely on the dirt (dry powdery red clay this time of year)& gravel. I'm wondering what others have to say about these tires and air pressure. By the way, I also upgraded to a mid weight Progressive rear spring. (Did the fork springs over a year ago.) Great improvement! No more mushy feeling. Solid. Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

I don't know. I ought to go let the air out of it and see. I would say that if you could, it shouldn't be done very fast, or for very long. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Kahler" To: "Jeff Khoury" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:03:47 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] tire upgrade Jeff, You say the side walls are so stiff, you can sit on the unmounted tire like a stool. Do you think in case of a flat, you could still ride on this tire? Craig Kahler --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] tire upgrade To: "E Hines" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 7:36 PM My stock rear lasted me 5600 miles. I just replaced it with a Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara and went on a 1200 mile odyssey from LA to San Jose via PCH. It is a competent road tire and while it is quite a bit more noisy than the stock one, it feels very comfortable both on and off road, even in the twisties of PCH through Big Sur. I did some light trail with it and it felt good, but I never ran into any mud, so I can't say how it will go. I will post updates as I wear the thing down. That being said, it was expensive and the sidewalls are VERY thick. Mounting it was a chore, even though I was using a No-Mar tire machine. In fact the sidewalls were so thick, before I mounted it I sat on the tire like a stool and it held my (180lb) weight with very little deformation. This makes sense seeing that it was supposedly designed for the R1100GS-A, which is a MUCH heavier bike than the KLR. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Hines" < ridingmyklr@ swbell.net > To: "David Giuliani" < foolstools@gmail. com >, "DSN KLR650" < DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:19:36 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] tire upgrade THE TKC's where the best road tires I have had on the KLR. They allowed me to push the KLR much more in the curves than any other tire. I only got 3000 miles out of the rear ( it was a racing slick when I took it off) and only 4000 miles out of the front. They were ok in the dirt. I have since gone to the kenda's and so far I am happy with them. I have over 5000 smiles of mixed riding on them I should get another 2000 miles out of them, but I have to slow done a little in the curves. They are much better off road. I am on my 4th set of tires in 17000 smiles...... .... I hope this helps....... .. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: David Giuliani < foolstools@gmail. com > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:40:10 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] tire upgrade I've gone through four IRC rear tires (two fronts)and none of the rear lasted more than 3000 miles, in fact that was pushing it. This time I splurged and bought front and rear TKC80. I used to keep the IRC at 26/28 lbs. no matter the road surface. The max pressure shown on the side wall for the TKC80 is 40psi. That seemed a little excessive so I tried 34/36 this morning. They felt great on the road, quicker through turns, but got a little squirrely on the dirt (dry powdery red clay this time of year)& gravel. I'm wondering what others have to say about these tires and air pressure. By the way, I also upgraded to a mid weight Progressive rear spring. (Did the fork springs over a year ago.) Great improvement! No more mushy feeling. Solid. Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Gary Thacker]

What 270's are you guys runnin on the front the 3.00 or the 3.25 and why? thanks Gary Souderton,Pa. No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~~ Abraham Lincoln To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: judjonzz@... Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:51:43 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: tire upgrade

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: I was just wondering why everyone seems to want a different tire? Because the stock tire won't climb its way out of a rut? I bought my "98 with a fresh K270 on it and a stock front. It only took one trip to the Big Horns to make me scrap the stocker, well before the end of its life. ("Useful life" would be a misnomer.) The k270 went on for a total of close to 10,000 miles. I averaged 9,500 per tire with three successive K270s on the rear. _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:00:47 -0400 Gary Thacker writes:

> > What 270's are you guys runnin on the front the 3.00 or the 3.25 and > why? thanks > > Gary > > Souderton,Pa.

<><><><><><><> <>><><><><><>> Gary, I run a 3.00 x 21 on the front of my KLR650. I've got over 21,000 smiles on that size running one up and also long distance one up with a full touring load on pavement and dirt. I like the way it allows me to turn. I think the 3.00 is a bit quicker and more responsive than the 3.25. I use 32 psi normally on pavement and might let it get down to 22-24 psi for lots of dirt. But normally I just ride it at 32 psi all the time. I don't get much sand so that isn't much of an issue for me. If I was going to ride in sand a lot I'd probably consider a 3.25. But my sand and mud riding skills are ok and the 3.00 works well for me. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Click for a wide selection of quality scales. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFnwg7PjUsuUtN04r5rhLCrn42Y03tKTogRJkgvXq5PjxD4Dhq0V6/

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Gary Thacker wrote:

> > > What 270's are you guys runnin on the front the 3.00 or the 3.25 and why? thanks >

3.00, because that's what my local accessory house has in stock, and because i can't think of a reason to wait for the bigger tire.