----- Original Message ----- From: To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 1:49 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Fork oil change > > I need some help--I am changing the fork oil in my 97 KLR and putting in new > fork seals. I can't find in the manual how much fork oil to put in or what > weight to use. Would appreciate any ideas. Thanks. > > Dave Mahle > >
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wayne adamson
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Dave,12 to 14u.s oz of 10-weight fork oil in each leg. Measure 7 inches from
top edge of inner tube when full.Opinions may very..............
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Bogdan Swider
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This is the info I have: Manual fork specs. Fork oil = 355ml of 10W (if simple draining while attached to the bike) closer to 420ml (if drained as in this procedure) Measure fork oil level 7.5" (190mm) from top of fork Bogdan> > Dave,12 to 14u.s oz of 10-weight fork oil in each leg. Measure 7 inches from > top edge of inner tube when full.Opinions may very.............. > Wayne
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clutz003
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Swider
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inches from> > > > Dave,12 to 14u.s oz of 10-weight fork oil in each leg. Measure 7
bike)> > top edge of inner tube when full.Opinions may very.............. > > Wayne > > This is the info I have: > > Manual fork specs. > Fork oil = 355ml of 10W (if simple draining while attached to the
I just did it last week and agree with the above, the only thing to add is that the measurement should be with the springs out and the fork tubes fully compressed and level (ie off of the bike and perpendicular to the ground). It is important to get the same level in each fork tube within plus or minus 2MM of 190mm from the top of the fork (Marks site has a good overview). Craig A18 San Jose CA> closer to 420ml (if drained as in this procedure) > Measure fork oil level 7.5" (190mm) from top of fork > > Bogdan
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:37:13 -0800, Wayne Adamson wrote:
and just for reference, the supplement manual says 10W20 and 190mm (+-2mm) from the top of the tube. I just changed my oil to 20W from stock + it is a huge improvement on-road, definitely a liittle stiff for off-road. I'll probably try 15W next. Dirk> > Dave,12 to 14u.s oz of 10-weight fork oil in each leg. Measure 7 inches from > top edge of inner tube when full.Opinions may very..............
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I just changed my fork oil (well, not actually me, I was working on my doohickey-- my Pit Crew did the forks) in November at the St. Louis Doohickey Party. I got several opinions on oil weights, but when I went to the little dealer near work, all they had was 20wt, so that's what went in!!
The group I ride with rides at a "spirited" pace, +20 or so thru the twisties, so there is occasion for hard braking... 
I'm pleased with the results-- front-end dive is noticeably reduced, but it's not like a braking a rock, and it was cheap! I haven't done much off-road, so I can't speak to that, but I'm planning some off-road adventures this coming year.
Judy
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:50:11 -0800
From: Dirk Beer
Subject: Re: Fork oil change
and just for reference, the supplement manual says 10W20 and 190mm
(+-2mm) from the top of the tube.
I just changed my oil to 20W from stock + it is a huge improvement
on-road, definitely a liittle stiff for off-road. I'll probably try
15W next.
Dirk
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I'm pleased with the results-- front-end dive is noticeably reduced, but it's not like a braking a rock, and it was cheap! I haven't done much off-road, so I can't speak to that, but I'm planning some off-road adventures this coming year.
Judy
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:50:11 -0800
From: Dirk Beer
Subject: Re: Fork oil change
and just for reference, the supplement manual says 10W20 and 190mm
(+-2mm) from the top of the tube.
I just changed my oil to 20W from stock + it is a huge improvement
on-road, definitely a liittle stiff for off-road. I'll probably try
15W next.
Dirk
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Dirk Beer
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Judy, did you (or your pit crew) figure out a way to drain the forks
without spraying oil all over the place? I made a hell of a mess when
I did mine.
The new oil's a hell of an improvement for $9, don't think I will need
the Progressive springs...
Dirk
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:09:05 -0800 (PST), Judy wrote: > > > I just changed my fork oil (well, not actually me, I was working on my doohickey-- my Pit Crew did the forks) in November at the St. Louis Doohickey Party. I got several opinions on oil weights, but when I went to the little dealer near work, all they had was 20wt, so that's what went in!! > > The group I ride with rides at a "spirited" pace, +20 or so thru the twisties, so there is occasion for hard braking...
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Dirk,
Ride it for a while and see. I did after I changed my fork oil and even
though it was a definite improvement, I found it wanting still. I bought
the progressive springs and it was as much if not more of an improvement as
the oil change. I'm now wanting to upgrade to the cartridges for the forks.
I don't know what type of riding you do. I ride about 5% on road and 95%
off. I normally don't have any load on the bike, other than myself, but I
do like to ride hard. Mainly small jumps, mud, ruts, tree roots, etc.
Greg
'95 A9
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Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:06 PM
To: Judy
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Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Fork oil change
Judy, did you (or your pit crew) figure out a way to drain the forks
without spraying oil all over the place? I made a hell of a mess when
I did mine.
The new oil's a hell of an improvement for $9, don't think I will need
the Progressive springs...
Dirk
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:09:05 -0800 (PST), Judy wrote: > > > I just changed my fork oil (well, not actually me, I was working on my doohickey-- my Pit Crew did the forks) in November at the St. Louis Doohickey Party. I got several opinions on oil weights, but when I went to the little dealer near work, all they had was 20wt, so that's what went in!! > > The group I ride with rides at a "spirited" pace, +20 or so thru the twisties, so there is occasion for hard braking...
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Jacobus De Bruyn
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I thought it was about time to change the fork oil for
the first time on my 04. I consulted both the Kawa
manuals and the Clymer, but I still have a doubt.
First of all the shop had only 15W fork oil, instead
of the 10W recommended. But I guess it will work fine
with year round warm weather. ?
I removed the drain plugs, and very little murky stuff
came out, I pumped down on the handle bars, and
indeed, oil squirted out. Then I pumped in some air
with a small bicycle handpump, and more oil sputtered
out. Then I put a stick under the engine front, and
lifted the wheel off the ground. I removed the
springs. Then I removed the stick, and the KLR sank
to its knees, so I lifted it up a bit again, and
poured in some oil to purge it. It drained out right
away. So now I will have to measure the 190 mm from
the top to the oil level, I assume that is with the
front wheel off the ground, before installing the
spring?? And after I measure the 190 mm, I put in the
spring, and close up, job well done? Both manuals are
a bit sketchy on this. Next project is the grease
the swingarm and linkages, sure something will come
up, that I will need your advice on.
So I thank all the guys on this group for all the info
and help, doohickey from Fred is in the mail too, Oh
my, Murphy s law will show up there too I am afraid. Jake.
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Jacobus De Bruyn
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<><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> Jake, The fork oil is measured with the forks compressed. So before you put the springs in pull the front wheel up high and tight and then adjust the fork oil level. I don't think the fork oil is much affected by temperatures. It's really for the damping effect and the 15w instead of the 10w will be a bit stiffer. You'll have to decide if it works well for you and your riding style. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT> I thought it was about time to change the fork oil for > the first time on my 04. I consulted both the Kawa > manuals and the Clymer, but I still have a doubt. > First of all the shop had only 15W fork oil, instead > of the 10W recommended. But I guess it will work fine > with year round warm weather. ? > I removed the drain plugs, and very little murky stuff > came out, I pumped down on the handle bars, and > indeed, oil squirted out. Then I pumped in some air > with a small bicycle handpump, and more oil sputtered > out. Then I put a stick under the engine front, and > lifted the wheel off the ground. I removed the > springs. Then I removed the stick, and the KLR sank > to its knees, so I lifted it up a bit again, and > poured in some oil to purge it. It drained out right > away. So now I will have to measure the 190 mm from > the top to the oil level, I assume that is with the > front wheel off the ground, before installing the > spring?? And after I measure the 190 mm, I put in the > spring, and close up, job well done? Both manuals are > a bit sketchy on this. Next project is the grease > the swingarm and linkages, sure something will come > up, that I will need your advice on. > So I thank all the guys on this group for all the info > and help, doohickey from Fred is in the mail too, Oh > my, Murphy s law will show up there too I am afraid. Jake.
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Jacobus De Bruyn
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Hi guys,
I loosened the rear motor bolt, but it is only
accessible after I removed the swingarm.
The twin-needle bearings in the triangle lever, where
the long pivot bolt goes, the one with the plastic
caps, were rusty and lost about half of the needles,
all the other bearings were ok. So I guess I will
have to buy two new bearings and seals. Fred doesn t
stock them, but he referred me to www.buykawasaki.com;
and I printed out the pages and parts lists from this
site. What will be the best way to get the spare
parts I need and Fred doesn t stock? Or will Fred
order them for me?
So I used generous quantities of Moby graphite extreme
pressure grease, and I think it will work ok for a
while, as it only is a hinge. A friend sat on the
bike making it jump up and down, while I kneeled
before it, adoringly, and it seems to work fine.
Dealing with big K directly is as dealing with a
government agency, even here in San Jos , and they
couldn t care less.
I am no longer upset, it is quite safe for Se or
Kasawaki to visit the premises. All this took me the
better part of two days.
There seems to be an error on the Kawasaki parts list
and print image, the lever pivot bolt, the longer one,
and the swing arm pivot bolt have the same part
number, but the latter is much shorter as I recall.
Sorry for being such a PITA, but I ve got no one here
to coach me along, and you guys have been a great
help. Sometimes I wonder about us, grown men, so
absorbed in tinkering with motorbikes... I think God
loves motorbikes.
"All good, where er it may be found, Its source doth
find in Thee; "
Biker s Greetings, Jake.
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