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Keith Saltzer
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Post by Keith Saltzer » Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:17 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Don Kime wrote:
> At 03:13 PM 12/15/03 +0000, wannabsmooth1 wrote: > >The lever is a (or should be) drop in part for your bike. Since the > >bearing is shorter, be sure to keep your oil level up, as it's only > >splash lubricated. > > Mike (and anyone else) this reminded me. I changed oil and filter
in an
> A16. The manual I think says 2.6 quarts w/ oil & filter. I got in
about
> 2.25-2.3 quart, and I am in the middle of the bulls eye. Should I
fill to
> 2.6 or stop where I'm at? > > TIA & > Happy holidays & > Ride safe, > Don Kime - VFR750F, GL1500SE, GL1100, KLR 650 > OH - M/C Safety Instructor/RiderCoach dkime@c... > http://forums.delphiforums.com/MCTourer/
As Elden has pointed out on his website, and I and counntless others as yourself have figured out, the site glass is in the WRONG place. While I'm not going to break out a protractor, to put on my swingarm and measure with the bike tilted 5 degrees,(left of center) as Elden instructs to do, I am using the info to keep my oil ABOVE the top of the site glass at all times. I put about 4-6 ounces more than the top of the window. Elden says that with oil at the top of the window, (bike level) it is about 10 ounces shy of the 2.5L factory spec. By the way, reading one of Eldens articles recently, I noticed that he found another bike with the same problem. He says that the 1996- 2004 DR650's have the same problem. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

Chris
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Post by Chris » Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:50 pm

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:17:32PM -0000, Keith Saltzer wrote:
> As Elden has pointed out on his website, and I and counntless others > as yourself have figured out
What site is his? Is he the guy that won't ride a KLR until he has it remanufactured? One guy supposedly re-machines all internal parts before he'll get on one...which I always found bizarre. He buys several and builds one blueprinted remanufactured KLR from it. -- ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/

Allan Patton
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Post by Allan Patton » Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:07 pm

> > As Elden has pointed out on his website, and I and counntless others > as yourself have figured out, the site glass is in the WRONG place. >
I'd like to offer a different point of view on this and say that the KLR sight glass is in the RIGHT place. When you refill with 2 1/2 quarts, you know you have the correct amount of oil in the motor. When the level gets down to the middle of the glass, you know it's time to add a pint. It works for me. Allan A14 BS. I don't always agree with everything Eldon says, but I do like to here it, then make up my own mind.

Keith Saltzer
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Post by Keith Saltzer » Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:25 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Allan Patton" wrote:
> > > > As Elden has pointed out on his website, and I and counntless
others
> > as yourself have figured out, the site glass is in the WRONG
place.
> I'd like to offer a different point of view on this and say that
the KLR
> sight glass is in the RIGHT place. When you refill with 2 1/2
quarts, you
> know you have the correct amount of oil in the motor. When the
level gets
> down to the middle of the glass, you know it's time to add a pint.
It works
> for me. > Allan A14
Yes, I can see how you use the information to adjust accordingly, but I will not let mine get down to even half the window. That's alot of oil IMHO. But even what you are doing is a heck of alot better than what some new KLR owners, or new riders will do. The manuel tells them to keep the oil level "in between the lines". You know what that means right? They will never put in more than the top line, which is already low by many ounces, then they will wait till it's at the bottom line, which is REALLY low. Some still, will think that as the book says "in between the lines" is OK, and will not think twice about waiting a while longer to add oil, even though it's already at the bottom line. NOT GOOD IMHO.
> > BS. I don't always agree with everything Eldon says, but I do
like to
> here it, then make up my own mind.
Yea, I am hearing more and more of that. So far, I haven't found anything that he has to say wrong, it's just that it is so far into what I call "the perfectionist world", that most are not going to do it because of time, money, tools, place, or they just don't care to worry about the things that he does. But I too like to hear what he has to say. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

Don Kime
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Post by Don Kime » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:20 pm

Thanks for all the responses to the Oil Level question. I think I'll add a bit more! Happy holidays & Ride safe, Don Kime - VFR750F, GL1500SE, GL1100, KLR 650 OH - M/C Safety Instructor/RiderCoach dkime@... http://forums.delphiforums.com/MCTourer/

zrod@hotmail.com
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Post by zrod@hotmail.com » Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:52 pm

To the question at hand,,,, Nothin wrong with keepin your oil at the top of the site glass!!!! I've been runnin it that way for the last 15000 miles per Eldon's advice and no one is going to convince me otherwise!!!!! Gurus are Gurus, and have contributed alot more than some of the others. They know who they are and don't have to prove it. Rod, It don't take all kinds,,,,there just are all kinds!!!!! HHAAAARR!!
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Chris wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:17:32PM -0000, Keith Saltzer wrote: > > As Elden has pointed out on his website, and I and counntless others > > as yourself have figured out > > What site is his? Is he the guy that won't ride a KLR until he has it > remanufactured? > > One guy supposedly re-machines all internal parts before he'll get on > one...which I always found bizarre. He buys several and builds one > blueprinted remanufactured KLR from it. > > -- > ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ > / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ > / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ > /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) > 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ > http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/

Chris
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Post by Chris » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:17 pm

Well, I figured it out anyway, he was the guy I was thinking of. Lots of interesting information, just that the site feels sort of creepy to me when I read it. It reads like a cult page, almost as if the same guy writes under all the names there. Hard to put my finger on it, but it really seems the others who contribute are in fear of the guy. The writing style is a bit odd too, lots of spots where he refers to himself in the third person, which always makes me cringe. Ever meet one of those guys at 4am in the 7-11, usually about 450lbs wearing a volunteer fire department hat, that constantly refers to himself as "We"? Same feeling, just without the cloud of donut sugar.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:51:59PM -0000, zrod@... wrote: > To the question at hand,,,, > Nothin wrong with keepin your oil at the top of the site glass!!!! > I've been runnin it that way for the last 15000 miles per Eldon's > advice and no one is going to convince me otherwise!!!!! > Gurus are Gurus, and have contributed alot more than some of the > others. They know who they are and don't have to prove it. > Rod, It don't take all kinds,,,,there just are all kinds!!!!! > HHAAAARR!! > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Chris wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:17:32PM -0000, Keith Saltzer wrote: > > > As Elden has pointed out on his website, and I and counntless > others > > > as yourself have figured out > > > > What site is his? Is he the guy that won't ride a KLR until he has > it > > remanufactured? > > > > One guy supposedly re-machines all internal parts before he'll get > on > > one...which I always found bizarre. He buys several and builds one > > blueprinted remanufactured KLR from it. > > > > -- > > ___ ______ _____ __ ________ > ___ > > / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ > ___ /__ \ > > / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ > \ /__/ > > /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ > (_) > > 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp > Race* /_/ > > http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/ > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_klr650/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > -- ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/

Chris
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Post by Chris » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:34 pm

That's it! I figured it out! L Don Hubbard That was the vibe I was getting.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:32:58PM -0500, Chris wrote: > Well, I figured it out anyway, he was the guy I was thinking of. Lots > of interesting information, just that the site feels sort of creepy to > me when I read it. It reads like a cult page, almost as if the same > guy writes under all the names there. Hard to put my finger on it, > but it really seems the others who contribute are in fear of the guy. > -- ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/

zrod@hotmail.com
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Post by zrod@hotmail.com » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:43 pm

Yea, Chris, but alot of us have benefited from Eldon's knowledge way before we got our KLRs. We've grown since then in our knowledge and Eldon has helped us. He's spent alot of time focusing on the KLR! Hell, maybe he didn't even want a website! I know several who wished he had one before set one up! I'm sure glad he decided to get one goin! Wish you could see the contributions he has made to this KLR World! I'll quit biatchin now Bro! I've talked to the Guru and he don't argue and is open to others opinions, even about my puttin a rear badass dirt tire on the front of my KLR to compensate for the little wimpies! Good Man, IMHO! Cheers Rod
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Chris wrote: > Well, I figured it out anyway, he was the guy I was thinking of. Lots > of interesting information, just that the site feels sort of creepy to > me when I read it. It reads like a cult page, almost as if the same > guy writes under all the names there. Hard to put my finger on it, > but it really seems the others who contribute are in fear of the guy. > > The writing style is a bit odd too, lots of spots where he refers to > himself in the third person, which always makes me cringe. Ever meet > one of those guys at 4am in the 7-11, usually about 450lbs wearing a > volunteer fire department hat, that constantly refers to himself as > "We"? Same feeling, just without the cloud of donut sugar. > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:51:59PM -0000, zrod@h... wrote: > > To the question at hand,,,, > > Nothin wrong with keepin your oil at the top of the site glass!!!! > > I've been runnin it that way for the last 15000 miles per Eldon's > > advice and no one is going to convince me otherwise!!!!! > > Gurus are Gurus, and have contributed alot more than some of the > > others. They know who they are and don't have to prove it. > > Rod, It don't take all kinds,,,,there just are all kinds!!!!! > > HHAAAARR!! > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Chris wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:17:32PM -0000, Keith Saltzer wrote: > > > > As Elden has pointed out on his website, and I and counntless > > others > > > > as yourself have figured out > > > > > > What site is his? Is he the guy that won't ride a KLR until he has > > it > > > remanufactured? > > > > > > One guy supposedly re-machines all internal parts before he'll get > > on > > > one...which I always found bizarre. He buys several and builds one > > > blueprinted remanufactured KLR from it. > > > > > > -- > > > ___ ______ _____ __ ________ > > ___ > > > / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ > > ___ /__ \ > > > / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ > > \ /__/ > > > /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/ \_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ > > (_) > > > 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp > > Race* /_/ > > > http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/ > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_klr650/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > -- > ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ > / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ > / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ > /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) > 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ > http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/

Martin Waters
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Post by Martin Waters » Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:48 pm

I did my spring oil and filter change today and here is what I found re: the sight glass accuracy. My bike was on my lift and was level. I added EXACTLY 2.5 litres of oil. When I added the "last drop", the oil was EXACTLY at the top on the glass. When I put the bike on the side stand, it was EXACTLY in the middle. These "measurements" were done BEFORE I started the bike. However, after starting and riding the bike, the level when on the side stand, was EXACTLY in the centre of the glass. Martin in Canada.

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