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[Dale_Johnson@ahm.honda.com]

Has anyone on the KLR List ever put a sidecar on a KLR? Dale A14 OD/Green 13900 miles

[Jim Hyman]

URAL sidecars & motorcycles are currently imported by a company in western Washington state (Everett area?). Professor +++++++++++++++++++++++ --- mule2b@a... wrote:

> There's a Russian company out there making sidecars, > it has four letters in the name, but I can't remember it > offhand. Anyone know what I'm talking about? > I've thought about putting one of these on The Mule, > but................. > Dale_Johnson@a... wrote: > >

[mule2b@aol.com]

In a message dated 9/5/00 11:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, professor.jim@... writes: << URAL sidecars & motorcycles are currently imported by a company in western Washington state (Everett area?). Professor >> Bingo! Thanx for that info, Fess! uhhh..........Steve.....right? "The Mule" A14

[leah_1winston]

Hello Folks, Does anyone have any information, pictures, hints or links regarding building a very basic sidecar / third wheel for a KLR650? It only needs to be a frame arrangement and does not need to carry a load. Thanks Dom and Leah

[Judson D. Jones]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "leah_1winston" wrote:

> Hello Folks, > Does anyone have any information, pictures, hints or links

regarding

> building a very basic sidecar / third wheel for a KLR650? It only > needs to be a frame arrangement and does not need to carry a load. > Thanks > Dom and Leah

Try this: http://www.sidecar.com/ which has Hal Kendall's excellent materials on sidecar setup and operation. You could also look into Hack'd magazine (you'll have to do your own Googling to find out where to get it), and the sidecar motocross sites. A lot of motorcycle escort services (for funerals, etc.) run third wheel outriggers in the wintertime. If you are in a cold weather city, check one out, and at least see how to build an outrigger for a Harley. Even the most rudimentary third wheel outrigger is going to have to carry some ballast, or you will never get it to handle.

[gpokluda]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "leah_1winston" wrote:

> Hello Folks, > Does anyone have any information, pictures, hints or links

regarding

> building a very basic sidecar / third wheel for a KLR650? It only > needs to be a frame arrangement and does not need to carry a load. > Thanks > Dom and Leah

Sidecars, no matter how light and well setup will drastically change the handling characteristics of any motorcycle. A customer (and very good rider) at my shop came across a very light side car and mounted it up to his BMW R90. A few weeks later he was in intensive care as the result of an accident where he misjudged the characteristics of his outfit. Just thought you need to know this going into your project. Gino Rider Valley Motorcycles Ural dealer

[George Basinet]

Dom, I had a 1982 GoldWing with a California Sidecar that I drove for about 12 years. The first thing you discover is that other drivers are extremely polite and friendly. Always giving you the right of way even on the Los Angeles Freeway. However it turns a nice handling bike into a beast. You are literally dragging the chair along side. The stress and strain on the bike's frame is unbelievable. Getting away from a stop is really hard on the clutch. And don't even think of trying to stop a KLR with all that extra weight. Left hand turns are fun, power sliding around the corners. Turning Right is a whole different story. In 1945 I delivered the San Francisco Chronicle on a Cushman motoscooter with a large box along side that held 300 newspapers. It had a centrifugal clutch so you would have to run alongside to get it moving off the line. That was a lot of fun, of course when you are 14-15 years old everything is fun (or stupid). George Escondido, CA

----- Original Message ----- From: "Judson D. Jones" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Sidecar > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "leah_1winston" > wrote: > > Hello Folks, > > Does anyone have any information, pictures, hints or links > regarding > > building a very basic sidecar / third wheel for a KLR650? It only > >

[Judson D. Jones]

Stupid Jawa Sidecar Trick: 1. Crank down the steering damper good and tight. 2. Set the revs at about 2500 with the throttle setscrew. 3. Raise both hands in the air, so everyone can see you're not cheating. 4. Toe the bike into gear, taking advantage of the auto clutch activation. 5. Slowly unload the shift lever, engaging the clutch, and motor off smartly, without touching the handlebars. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "George Basinet" wrote:

> > Dom, > > I had a 1982 GoldWing with a California Sidecar that I drove for

about 12

> years. The first thing you discover is that other drivers are

extremely

> polite and friendly. Always giving you the right of way even on

the Los

> Angeles Freeway. However it turns a nice handling bike into a

beast. You

> are literally dragging the chair along side. The stress and strain

on the

> bike's frame is unbelievable. Getting away from a stop is really

hard on

> the clutch. And don't even think of trying to stop a KLR with all

that

> extra weight. Left hand turns are fun, power sliding around the

corners.

> Turning Right is a whole different story. > > In 1945 I delivered the San Francisco Chronicle on a Cushman

motoscooter

> with a large box along side that held 300 newspapers. It had a

centrifugal

> clutch so you would have to run alongside to get it moving off the

line.

> That was a lot of fun, of course when you are 14-15 years old

everything is

> fun (or stupid). > > George > Escondido, CA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judson D. Jones" > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 1:31 PM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Sidecar > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "leah_1winston" > > wrote: > > > Hello Folks, > > > Does anyone have any information, pictures, hints or links > > regarding > > > building a very basic sidecar / third wheel for a KLR650? It

only

> > >

[Stan]

A number of years ago I saw an interesting beast, I think it was at Alice's restaurant in La Honda or Skylonda or whatever that area is called. Anyways, if memory serves it was a BMW K100 or K1100 of some flavor, with a sidecar, powered by an RX-7 rotary mill mounted in the sidecar. Is that wild or what?! Has anyone else seen this thing? Hm, I wonder if there's a web page for it... -S

[gpokluda]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Stan wrote:

> A number of years ago I saw an interesting beast, I think it was at > Alice's restaurant in La Honda or Skylonda or whatever that area is

called.

> > Anyways, if memory serves it was a BMW K100 or K1100 of some

flavor,

> with a sidecar, powered by an RX-7 rotary mill mounted in the

sidecar.

> Is that wild or what?! Has anyone else seen this thing? Hm, I

wonder

> if there's a web page for it... > > -S

Yep, it is/was called the Roto-hack. Saw it at the BMW National in Durango, about 1995. Guy had sealed up the K bike engine and used it as a fuel cell. What people will do when they have way too much time on their hands. Gino Rider Vallery Motorcycles