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Mark Wilson
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tire question

Post by Mark Wilson » Wed Jun 28, 2000 4:23 am

I'm mounting up a new front tire, and I noticed a red dot on the tire. Is that susposed to go near the valve stem????? It's a MT21.. And I didnt see any arrows for rotation direction, so I guess it dosent matter which way it goes. Any advice on the red dot will be appreciated. Mark Wilson http://www.geocities.com/motormark64/ http://www.angelfire.com/mo/motormark/ KLR-650 A-13 "warthogg" XR250R "superfly" Stone Mountain, Ga ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Eric Knight Holbrook
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tire question

Post by Eric Knight Holbrook » Tue Jun 26, 2001 1:31 pm

Will a 140/80 rear tire work on the stock 130/80 rims? I'd really like to go with a wider rear tire setup, but my dealer knows next to nothing and I can't find anything online to help me out about larger rims or much else. Thanks for your help.

Devon Jarvis
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Post by Devon Jarvis » Tue Jun 26, 2001 1:46 pm

Why do you want a bigger rear tire? I know nothing about off-road riding, I'm currently educating myself by repeatedly lifting my KLR back onto it's tires. But, on road bikes (unless you're drag racing) fatter rear tires mess up the handling. Devon Eric Knight Holbrook wrote:
> > Will a 140/80 rear tire work on the stock 130/80 rims? I'd really > like to go with a wider rear tire setup, but my dealer knows next to > nothing and I can't find anything online to help me out about larger > rims or much else. > > Thanks for your help. > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

RM
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tire question

Post by RM » Tue Jun 26, 2001 2:39 pm

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Devon Jarvis wrote:
>Why do you want a bigger rear tire? I know nothing about off-road >riding, I'm currently educating myself by repeatedly lifting my KLR back >onto it's tires. But, on road bikes (unless you're drag racing) fatter >rear tires mess up the handling.
Let me take a few wild guesses: 1. Smoother ride from increased air volume. More air means more smoosh when ya hit the rocks. I think that "compliance" might be the Krok-approved term. 2. Krok could probably give us a long lecture on force vectors and whatnot, but a larger diameter rear tire will roll over bumps with less rider disturbance. Imagine a Geo Metro slamming a tire into a 3" rock. Now picture a Humvee slamming into the same rock. Big wheel rolls over obstacle easier. 3. More flotation on loose surfaces. A wider rear tire will "float" over the tops of rocks/roots instead of trying to fall down in between them. I can tell you from my pedalbike experience that going from a 1.9" to a 2.2" bike tire adds GOBS of stability in the rough stuff. How people ride around here with these semi-slick 1.9's is beyond me. 4. More resistance to pinch-flatting when pressure is low. Anyone ever pinch-flatted a rear? 5. (trumps 1-4) - Because it looks goddamn cool. It adds to your style and sex appeal. It increases your chances of copulating with the opposite (or same if that's your choice) sex. RM

Dale Johnson
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Post by Dale Johnson » Tue Jun 26, 2001 3:09 pm

> 4. More resistance to pinch-flatting when pressure is low. Anyone
ever
> pinch-flatted a rear?
--Snip I think I did, Hey Andy when you kid was changing my rear tire did you get a look at it? It looked pinched right? It had to holes they looked like two gashes about 1/2 in apart and about 3/4 of an inch long, I was hotdoggin in some ROCKS when it happend, the rocks were BIG.. I was slammin into them seeing how fast I could go through this "mine" field.. Dale

Eric Knight Holbrook
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tire question

Post by Eric Knight Holbrook » Tue Jun 26, 2001 3:15 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote:
> Why do you want a bigger rear tire? I know nothing about off-road > riding, I'm currently educating myself by repeatedly lifting my KLR
back onto it's tires. But, on road bikes (unless you're drag acing) fatter rear tires mess up the handling.
> > Devon >
I think RM pretty much hit it dead on in all respects. The Tires on the KLR are way too skinny for my liking... I'm taking a wild guess but suspect a wider tire would also wear somewhat slower since the heat is spread across a bigger surface. Handling and cornering: It's just a fact that a wider rear tire would improve traction (to a point of course...). More tire to grip the road or dirt. Better traction in the rain (again, more tire, more grip). I can't see any negative effects of adding a larger tire (again, up to a point). Anyway, I got an answer and apparently a 140 will work on the stock '01 rim. I want to switch over to the Michelin T66 140/80 for the rear and corresponding front.

steve pye
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Post by steve pye » Tue Jun 26, 2001 3:48 pm

-----Original Message----- From: Eric Knight Holbrook To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:31 PM
>Will a 140/80 rear tire work on the stock 130/80 rims?
Yes. I ran a 140/80 Bridgestone Trail Wing for a while. I think this tire is discontinued now but I had good sucess with it. You might run into some clearance problems, especially with the stock exhaust. Steve A11

Devon Jarvis
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Post by Devon Jarvis » Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:28 pm

On a road bike, the profile of the rear tire can affect handling considerably. Usually the wider the rear tire, the flatter the profile near the contact patch, and you will need a greater angle of lean to achieve the same turn radius. This makes the bike less "flickable" in twisties, ie. you need greater steering effort to turn in. On the road though, softer compound also means more grip. If you need the tires to stick better, you can get better handling with the stock size and a better performing compound. Sorry, this probably rules out ChengShin, Kenda, etc... Yes, fat rear tires look cool I agree, on any bike. I have tried different sizes on identical SR500's, and found that a skinny, round-profile tire with the stickiest compound you can stand (in terms of mileage/longevity) works far better for sport riding. If you never intend sport riding on the road, then by all means put on the fattest rear tire you can run. It will probably make the bike more stable at highway speed. It definitely makes it more stable when you're trying to turn it. Devon Eric Knight Holbrook wrote:
> > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > Why do you want a bigger rear tire? I know nothing about off-road > > riding, I'm currently educating myself by repeatedly lifting my KLR > back onto it's tires. But, on road bikes (unless you're drag acing) > fatter rear tires mess up the handling. > > > > Devon > > > I think RM pretty much hit it dead on in all respects. The Tires on > the KLR are way too skinny for my liking... I'm taking a wild guess > but suspect a wider tire would also wear somewhat slower since the > heat is spread across a bigger surface. > > Handling and cornering: It's just a fact that a wider rear tire would > improve traction (to a point of course...). More tire to grip the > road or dirt. Better traction in the rain (again, more tire, more > grip). > > I can't see any negative effects of adding a larger tire (again, up > to a point). > > Anyway, I got an answer and apparently a 140 will work on the > stock '01 rim. I want to switch over to the Michelin T66 140/80 for > the rear and corresponding front. > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Tengai650
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tire question

Post by Tengai650 » Tue Jun 26, 2001 5:19 pm

At 5:27 PM -0400 6/26/01, Devon Jarvis wrote:
>Sorry, this probably rules out >ChengShin, Kenda, etc...
OOPS. Don't say "No" unless you know. I take my Kendas and Chengs all the way to the edge with confidence. Mark B2 A2 A3

monahanwb@yahoo.com
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tire question

Post by monahanwb@yahoo.com » Tue Jun 26, 2001 5:45 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Tengai650 wrote:
> At 5:27 PM -0400 6/26/01, Devon Jarvis wrote: > >Sorry, this probably rules out > >ChengShin, Kenda, etc... > > OOPS. Don't say "No" unless you know. I take my Kendas and Chengs
all
> the way to the edge with confidence. > Mark
As do I. The Maxxis 6006s that I use(cheng shins) stick right out to the edge, nothing to worry about there. Lots of Aprilias and Ducatis, SuperHawks, et cetera have had to look at the rear tire for a long wait till a decent straight. Not too hard to change on the side of the road either, which counts for a lot, in my travel book.

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