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[Eric Mercer]

>From: Zachariah Mully >To: Eric Mercer >CC: KLR List DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: Emergency Tire Repair >Date: 24 Sep 2003 13:33:16 -0400 >This is a total non sequitur and disingenuous as well. First, you didn't >use slime properly. You are supposed to put in your tubes BEFORE you get >a flat, how do you think slime works?

My apologies for jumping to the wrong conclusion, and maybe I didn't use slime correctly, but do you really think I was insincere? I thought my description of the event was very candid and straightforward. Let me say that the whole point of my message was to indicate that a front tube will work in a rear tire. Apparantly I didn't get that point across. I never said anything about riding at speeds of 70mph with a front tube in a rear tire but you assumed that I did. You also assumed that I have no previous experience with slime. Your responce was non sequitur. Read on.

>Truely I could care less about whether or not you or anyone else slimes >their tires, but to advocate that people shouldn't and basing that on >zero factual evidence irks me.

Shame on me for having an opinion. Please forgive me for irking you. Addendum: I used to run slime in my tubed motorcycle tires until I picked up a 3/16 drill bit in a rear tire at 70mph. Belive me, the air left that slimed tire just as fast as it would have without slime. There was a one inch rip in the tube. The only thig slime did for me in that instance was to deposit green goo all over the inside of the tire and even got some onto the fender. Slime may help a puncture from a thorn or small nail but a tubed tire will still go flat if the nail is still in the tire. I rely on heavy duty tubes without slime. I still use it in my ATV tires and it works great. Again, just my opinion. Please don't be irked. Eric Mercer Ukiah, CA '90 Tengai _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

[cclitle]

I was 10 miles outside Gardner MT (just north of Yellowstone)and got a front flat. what a pain in the butt. Small town no real services, the tube was wasted so inflator did not work. I had to call a friend to come and get me. Even worse, the tools in the factory kit wont even take the front wheel off. Even with the proper tools field changing a tire is not an easy thing. I do not want this to happen again, what is the groups recommendations? Flat in Montana

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cclitle" wrote:

> > I was 10 miles outside Gardner MT (just north of Yellowstone)and got a > front flat. what a pain in the butt. Small town no real services, the > tube was wasted so inflator did not work. I had to call a friend to > come and get me. Even worse, the tools in the factory kit wont even > take the front wheel off. Even with the proper tools field changing a > tire is not an easy thing. > > I do not want this to happen again, what is the groups > recommendations?

1. Assume it will happen again. Learn how to fix a flat in the field, and carry the necessary tools; or 2. Give up motorcycles in favor of public transportation.

[nakedwaterskier]

I slime my rear tube and carry tire irons and a front larger inner tube when I am going to the boondocks. The rear tube is much harder to change. A hand bicycle air pump would wear you out so cartridges work best. Arrowhead/Fred Dink carries heavy duty inner tubes and he also carries a double(two-sided) closed end wrench that fits front and back axles. Jeffrey Emergency Tire Repair I was 10 miles outside Gardner MT (just north of Yellowstone)and got a front flat. what a pain in the butt. Small town no real services, the tube was wasted so inflator did not work. I had to call a friend to come and get me. Even worse, the tools in the factory kit wont even take the front wheel off. Even with the proper tools field changing a tire is not an easy thing. I do not want this to happen again, what is the groups recommendations? Flat in Montana

[smthng else]

My '08 did the same to me on the rear about a week after I got her. Had to go through horrors of scavenging a trailer and such. Search the messages via the Yahoo web page for "Tire Repair Kit" for all sorts of helpful suggestions. --Jonathan "smthng" Kalmes Springfield, VA 2005 Yamaha FJR1300ABS - "Blue Bayou" 2006 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon - "Teflon" 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 - It's here, but it hasn't earned a name yet. http://smthng.info "If I'd known it was harmless, I would have killed it myself."

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Jud Jones wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cclitle" wrote: >> >> I was 10 miles outside Gardner MT (just north of Yellowstone)and got a >> front flat. what a pain in the butt. Small town no real services, the >> tube was wasted so inflator did not work. I had to call a friend to >> come and get me. Even worse, the tools in the factory kit wont even >> take the front wheel off. Even with the proper tools field changing a >> tire is not an easy thing. >> >> I do not want this to happen again, what is the groups >> recommendations? > > 1. Assume it will happen again. Learn how to fix a flat in the field, and carry the necessary > tools; or > 2. Give up motorcycles in favor of public transportation. > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

[Jeff Saline]

On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:24:56 -0000 "Jud Jones" writes:

> 1. Assume it will happen again. Learn how to fix a flat in the > field, and carry the necessary > tools; or > 2. Give up motorcycles in favor of public transportation.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><><><><> Flat in Montana, I'm with Jud on this. If you are going to ride a motorcycle you are probably gonna get a flat or two along the way. The KLR is capable of taking you to places where if you aren't ready to deal with a problem like a flat tire it can be anywhere from uncomfortable to deadly. On De Tour a few years ago Steve had two rear flats. I don't think it took more than an hour to repair either one. And that included pinching the tube on the second flat. Two days later we changed four tires in a barn which wasn't any different than doing it while on the road. Learning how to do simple maintenance items like oil changes, battery fluid maintenance, light bulb replacements, tire changes/repairs and electrical troubleshooting can be the difference between walking and riding. Carrying the tools and parts to do required maintenance is just part of responsible riding in some areas. I suggest you consider learning how to repair a puncture and change a tire with tools and supplies you carry on the bike. Then carry those tools and supplies with you. The difference between adventure and adversity is attitude. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free info on Graduate Degrees. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nNPPpCYMRLilcb9N0D1dDvOjJ3fucoDEw3JYI3jBqOCnlis/

[Jon Neet]

I just finished replacing both tires on my 2005 last night. I had done the rear about a month ago, and did the front last night. I can tell you this-I couldn't have got the front axle nut loose without a long 1/2 breaker bar. jon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[J Fortner]

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:41 PM, cclitle wrote:

> I was 10 miles outside Gardner MT (just north of Yellowstone)and got a > front flat. what a pain in the butt. Small town no real services, the > tube was wasted so inflator did not work. I had to call a friend to > come and get me. Even worse, the tools in the factory kit wont even > take the front wheel off. Even with the proper tools field changing a > tire is not an easy thing. > > I do not want this to happen again, what is the groups > recommendations? > > Flat in Montana > > >

Start practicing with the tools you take with you on the KLR in your garage, driveway or parking lot. Just like you would do where there is no dealership. Being prepared will keep most flats away via Murphy's Law and the flats the KLR does have you will be prepared for. You may want to hook up with local KLRistas and do some shop days, wrenching sessions and cold beverage drinking... Jim Fortner Plano, TX A7 02 XX 06 DL1K Trek 820 Schwinn Mesa Cannondale Road [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jon Neet wrote:

> > I just finished replacing both tires on my 2005 last night. I

had done the rear about a month ago, and did the front last night. I can tell you this-I couldn't have got the front axle nut loose without a long 1/2 breaker bar. I carry a Motion Pro Axle Wrench/Tire Spoon combo wrench. I usually use a long 1/2" socket wrench to do my front tire but when I first got the Motion Pro made sure the Motion Pro wrench would work for me if I got a flat in the field. The secret is: 1. Break the nut while the bike is firmly on the ground. (Up in the air won't work!). 2. Place the wrench so that it is roughly horizontal to the ground. 3. Stand on the end of it (you're wearing your motorcycle boots, right?) That broke the nut loose. 190 pounds of lard tends to do that . If it hadn't, a swift kick with the heel of the boot (with the wrench a little below horizontal) would have done the job. Did that on the rear nut once, that was all it took. -E

[MtGoat]

As I was nearing the end of a 200 mile plus dirt road adventure today I was pondering the same thing (what if I had gotten a flat as all of the trip was out of cell phone coverage). I only get this via e-mails and have never viewed the FAQ...how do I get in and view the wealth of knowledge available on the KLR FAQ list? Thanks Pat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]