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willyklr
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extra fuel

Post by willyklr » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:59 am

Anybody seen these plastic fuel containers that fit on your fairing? Thought I saw a picture of one maybe in an Enduro Race. Any suggestions on carrying extra fuel with you on long remote rides? Thought about mounting some aluminum fuel bottles (like for camping stoves) on with padded hose clamps. Suggestions?

Tim Bontrager
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Post by Tim Bontrager » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:37 pm

I've been looking for a good way to carry more fuel too. I found the Kolpin Fuel Pack Jr. http://www.kolpinpowersports.com/acc.html I holds 1.25 gallons. However, it looks like it's only good in a vertical position. I would like something like this that can be carried flat on a luggage rack. BTW, the also have similar cans for water and also a mounting bracket and "saddlebags". Interesting.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "willyklr" wrote: > > Anybody seen these plastic fuel containers that fit on your fairing? > Thought I saw a picture of one maybe in an Enduro Race. > Any suggestions on carrying extra fuel with you on long remote rides? > Thought about mounting some aluminum fuel bottles (like for camping > stoves) on with padded hose clamps. > Suggestions? >

Jim Priest
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Post by Jim Priest » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:49 pm

Reading the description: # Fits flat on ATV rack or mounts on the ATV Water/Fuel Pack Bracket # Sturdy construction allows additional gear to be stacked on top of pack # Fuel Packs may be stacked for added storage capacity Sounds like it CAN be used flat - the picture simply shows it mounted upright on the bracket I assume... Jim
On 4/6/07, Tim Bontrager wrote: > I've been looking for a good way to carry more fuel too. I found the > Kolpin Fuel Pack Jr. http://www.kolpinpowersports.com/acc.html > I holds 1.25 gallons. However, it looks like it's only good in a > vertical position. I would like something like this that can be > carried flat on a luggage rack. BTW, the also have similar cans for

Dail
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extra fuel

Post by Dail » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:10 pm

Looks like a gas can...remove the cap and pour the gas into your tank.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Priest" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: extra fuel | Reading the description: | | # Fits flat on ATV rack or mounts on the ATV Water/Fuel Pack Bracket | # Sturdy construction allows additional gear to be stacked on top of pack | # Fuel Packs may be stacked for added storage capacity | | Sounds like it CAN be used flat - the picture simply shows it mounted | upright on the bracket I assume... | | Jim | | On 4/6/07, Tim Bontrager wrote: | > I've been looking for a good way to carry more fuel too. I found the | > Kolpin Fuel Pack Jr. http://www.kolpinpowersports.com/acc.html | > I holds 1.25 gallons. However, it looks like it's only good in a | > vertical position. I would like something like this that can be | > carried flat on a luggage rack. BTW, the also have similar cans for | | | List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com | List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html | Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 | Yahoo! Groups Links | | | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 3:33 PM | |

Bob Schulte
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Post by Bob Schulte » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:26 pm

There has been some discussion in the past about carrying extra fuel. Inevitably it comes out, it is not a good idea to carry extra, and we have never come to a conclusion as to the best way to do it. IMHO Motorcycles are very different animals from the ATV's that the aforementioned gas containers work on. Unfortunately we sometimes have the "dirty side up" which presents another whole set of problems, both medical and equipment. The engine exhaust header is operating at twice the flash point temperature (495 degrees F.) of gasoline, and a leaking upside down gas container could splash, drip, ooze, leak, rupture, fail, or otherwise deposit fuel on that header easily in an accident. That would turn the KLR, and perhaps a pinned rider into something akin to a funeral pyre. Definitely not a good thought. I guess I am saying that the risk involved in carrying extra gas seems to scare most riders off. We benefit from the largest gas tank in the motorcycle market. Most of us get at least 230-250 miles before reserve, and that amount is sufficient. I know that I am not answering your post, but perhaps I am providing you with things to think over before you make a firm decision on extra gas. Capt. Bob Durham, CT USA 2006 KLR http://seniorbiker.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Bontrager To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 3:37 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: extra fuel I've been looking for a good way to carry more fuel too. I found the Kolpin Fuel Pack Jr. http://www.kolpinpowersports.com/acc.html I holds 1.25 gallons. However, it looks like it's only good in a vertical position. I would like something like this that can be carried flat on a luggage rack. BTW, the also have similar cans for water and also a mounting bracket and "saddlebags". Interesting. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "willyklr" wrote: > > Anybody seen these plastic fuel containers that fit on your fairing? > Thought I saw a picture of one maybe in an Enduro Race. > Any suggestions on carrying extra fuel with you on long remote rides? > Thought about mounting some aluminum fuel bottles (like for camping > stoves) on with padded hose clamps. > Suggestions? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

CA Stu
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Post by CA Stu » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:39 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Schulte" wrote:
> > There has been some discussion in the past about carrying extra
fuel. Inevitably it comes out, it is not a good idea to carry extra, and we have never come to a conclusion as to the best way to do it.
> > IMHO Motorcycles are very different animals from the ATV's that the
aforementioned gas containers work on. Unfortunately we sometimes have the "dirty side up" which presents another whole set of problems, both medical and equipment. The engine exhaust header is operating at twice the flash point temperature (495 degrees F.) of gasoline, and a leaking upside down gas container could splash, drip, ooze, leak, rupture, fail, or otherwise deposit fuel on that header easily in an accident. That would turn the KLR, and perhaps a pinned rider into something akin to a funeral pyre. Definitely not a good thought.
> > I guess I am saying that the risk involved in carrying extra gas
seems to scare most riders off. We benefit from the largest gas tank in the motorcycle market. Most of us get at least 230-250 miles before reserve, and that amount is sufficient. I know that I am not answering your post, but perhaps I am providing you with things to think over before you make a firm decision on extra gas.
> > > Capt. Bob > Durham, CT USA > 2006 KLR > http://seniorbiker.blogspot.com/ > >
The quart Gatorade bottles work well. I've never seen one break, even dropped at speed. You can hyper-analye it if you want, but I firmly believe in the KISS mentality. Thanks Keep It Simple Stu

Ronald Criswell
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Post by Ronald Criswell » Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:29 pm

Yep, but I have seriously been thinking about getting a Suzuki DRZ 400 S .... but the dang thing doesn't hold enough fuel to ride in some places. Also considered the new Kawasaki 4 stroke street legal 250. Both of these bikes could use a bigger tank for serious exploring. You can buy an after market tank for the Suzuki but wouldn't it be nice if the factory gave you the option of 2 different tank sizes and you could choose when you buy. I have seen some carry an extra gallon on their Suzuki 400's on the White Rim in a regular plastic gas can. I don't really like that option. A friend of mine who I rode down to Copper Canyon with had a custom accessory aluminum gas tank made for his KLR that fit where the passenger normally sits which gave him about 9 gallons total. Whuwho! He could really explore ..... but it was ..... not fun to pick up if he dropped it and rear end collisions ......... wait a minute ..... its a motorcycle and rear end collisions are not good even with stock setup. Criswell
On Apr 6, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Bob Schulte wrote: > There has been some discussion in the past about carrying extra > fuel. Inevitably it comes out, it is not a good idea to carry > extra, and we have never come to a conclusion as to the best way to > do it. > > IMHO Motorcycles are very different animals from the ATV's that the > aforementioned gas containers work on. Unfortunately we sometimes > have the "dirty side up" which presents another whole set of > problems, both medical and equipment. The engine exhaust header is > operating at twice the flash point temperature (495 degrees F.) of > gasoline, and a leaking upside down gas container could splash, > drip, ooze, leak, rupture, fail, or otherwise deposit fuel on that > header easily in an accident. That would turn the KLR, and perhaps > a pinned rider into something akin to a funeral pyre. Definitely > not a good thought. > > I guess I am saying that the risk involved in carrying extra gas > seems to scare most riders off. We benefit from the largest gas > tank in the motorcycle market. Most of us get at least 230-250 > miles before reserve, and that amount is sufficient. I know that I > am not answering your post, but perhaps I am providing you with > things to think over before you make a firm decision on extra gas. > > Capt. Bob > Durham, CT USA > 2006 KLR > http://seniorbiker.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Bontrager > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 3:37 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: extra fuel > > I've been looking for a good way to carry more fuel too. I found the > Kolpin Fuel Pack Jr. http://www.kolpinpowersports.com/acc.html > I holds 1.25 gallons. However, it looks like it's only good in a > vertical position. I would like something like this that can be > carried flat on a luggage rack. BTW, the also have similar cans for > water and also a mounting bracket and "saddlebags". Interesting. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "willyklr" wrote: > > > > Anybody seen these plastic fuel containers that fit on your fairing? > > Thought I saw a picture of one maybe in an Enduro Race. > > Any suggestions on carrying extra fuel with you on long remote > rides? > > Thought about mounting some aluminum fuel bottles (like for camping > > stoves) on with padded hose clamps. > > Suggestions? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Arden Kysely
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Post by Arden Kysely » Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:00 pm

I've got the IMS 4.2 gallon tank on my DR-Z. It's not a beauty, but it will get me 220+ miles down the road. Don't know if we have some crooked gas pumps around here, but I've put 4.5 gallons into it twice. I haven't yet needed to go more than 250 miles without being able to re-fuel on my KLR. If I wanted more gas capacity, I'd buy the IMS 7- gallon tank. Spare gas, no matter how carried, is always a hazard and a mess. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Criswell wrote:
> > Yep, but I have seriously been thinking about getting a Suzuki DRZ > 400 S .... but the dang thing doesn't hold enough fuel to ride in > some places. Also considered the new Kawasaki 4 stroke street legal > 250. Both of these bikes could use a bigger tank for serious > exploring. You can buy an after market tank for the Suzuki but > wouldn't it be nice if the factory gave you the option of 2
different tank sizes and you could choose when you buy....snip
> Criswell

Kerry Stottlemyer
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Post by Kerry Stottlemyer » Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:36 pm

I'm just going to stir the pot Buy the Diesel KLR and get 100 MPG double your range for $20K Thats the end all be all of farkels Kerry
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote: > > I've got the IMS 4.2 gallon tank on my DR-Z. It's not a beauty, but it > will get me 220+ miles down the road. Don't know if we have some > crooked gas pumps around here, but I've put 4.5 gallons into it twice. > > I haven't yet needed to go more than 250 miles without being able to > re-fuel on my KLR. If I wanted more gas capacity, I'd buy the IMS 7- > gallon tank. Spare gas, no matter how carried, is always a hazard and > a mess. > > __Arden > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Criswell > wrote: > > > > Yep, but I have seriously been thinking about getting a Suzuki DRZ > > 400 S .... but the dang thing doesn't hold enough fuel to ride in > > some places. Also considered the new Kawasaki 4 stroke street legal > > 250. Both of these bikes could use a bigger tank for serious > > exploring. You can buy an after market tank for the Suzuki but > > wouldn't it be nice if the factory gave you the option of 2 > different tank sizes and you could choose when you buy....snip > > Criswell >

Tim Bontrager
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Post by Tim Bontrager » Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:48 am

Based on feedback, I am agreeing that carrying extra fuel is a bad idea. Bob's commentary about the possible dangers hits home. Also, with regard to the Kolpin Fuel Pack Jr., the bottle looks well made, but the caps look very poorly made. Therefore, I wouldn't be comfortable using these in a horizontal position (even though it's implied in the advertising that this is possible).
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Schulte" wrote: > > There has been some discussion in the past about carrying extra fuel. Inevitably it comes out, it is not a good idea to carry extra, and we have never come to a conclusion as to the best way to do it.

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