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[Christopher Creighton]

Hey Now, I put on the Kawasaki tall wind shield and it made too much noise and caused some irritable buffeting. I cut 2" off the top and clipped the sides. The width is as wide as the base and the top corners are more rounded. It provides a better ride up to about 65mph, then it starts to spill air and buffet, but not as much. I am 5'11" w/ 31" inseam. The air flow hits the middle of my face shield now. Finest kind, -- Chris --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron and Brenda Moorhouse wrote:

> > Anyone else have an opinion on the taller windshields? > > Andrus Chesley wrote: >I heard that keeping all that stuff that does not

[tjtacke]

Get rid of them. Why expect total protection from a KLR? 20 years ago, almost to the day, I rode from central Montana to western Maryland on an '82 FXR starting on St. Patricks's Day, 1986. I didn't have heated grips, windshield, an extra bike's worth of parts, or any of the other things often talked about. What I did have was snow, blizzards, mid-teens weather, carbertor frosting, my leathers, Carhardts, mittons, and my trombone (I was preparing for a faculty recital). I would not have done the ride if I had thought it was going to be so crappy. I arrived in Montana on the 14th with the weather in the low 70's. That changed when I left Great Falls on the 17th. It was in the 40's and was very lightly snowing. 40 miles out of Billings it was nearly full blizzard with no visability. The weather stayed cold and I was not able to get to a southern route so I ended up going across North Dakota, Minnesota route. I made the 2000 miles in four days. In retrospect, I still laugh at the Sturgis guys that trailor in......I say, "If you tow, don't do." Likewise, trim the KLR stock windshield down or get rid of it. Enjoy the KLR for what it is. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron and Brenda Moorhouse wrote:

> > Anyone else have an opinion on the taller windshields? > > Andrus Chesley wrote: >I heard that keeping all

that stuff that does not work, or might be

> >needed later, is how parents with grown children get even with

their

> >children, making them sort through years and tears of "useful

stuff."

> >At least that is what it looked like my Grandpa did to my mom,

and now

> >it is what I think she is doing to us kids...unfortunatly, my > >momma/daddy does not have any motorcycle parts. > > That is a great idea~ I did tell my daughter about 3 years of so

back

> when she was telling me I needed to clean my shop. You clean it ,

it's

> yours when I die anyway LOL. > Oh I remember it took months to clear up the old house when Mom

died so

> we could sell it. Geesh that woman had some STUFF. > > Andy in Louisiana > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at:

http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html

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[Andrus Chesley]

>Get rid of them. Why expect total protection from a KLR? 20 years >ago, almost to the day, I rode from central Montana to western >Maryland on an '82 FXR starting on St. Patricks's Day, 1986.

Gosh! Wow! Back to the stone age. In '66 I bought a '63 Triumph ( with my get out of the Marines Pay), put my seabag on it with everything I owned and took off from Long Beach, Calif. just traveling all over the country. I had just mustered out of the Marines at Santa Anna and El Toro Air Base where then sent all from overseas getting out then. Do I want that bike today? Nooooooo. Do I want any bike I had over 20 years ago to travel on today Nooooooo. Do I want to carry more tools than clothing. Noooooooooo Give me fuel injection or todays carbs, electrical systems, windshields, good luggage, todays protective clothing and a mulitude of 500+ miles days with todays tires and bikes. '43 Andy in SW Louisiana '00 KLR650 '02 R1150GSA

[Randy Shultz]

> Do I want that bike today? Nooooooo. Do I want any bike I had over

20

> years ago to travel on today Nooooooo. Do I want to carry more tools > than clothing. Noooooooooo Give me fuel injection or todays carbs, > electrical systems, windshields, good luggage, todays protective > clothing and a mulitude of 500+ miles days with todays tires and > bikes. >

--- This is why I don't get as excited about restoring classic motorcycles the way I do about cars. The best bikes are being built today, performance wise. But I confess that I too have reverted to the stock windshield after having tried a plus seven inch aftermarket windscreen. I might put it back on for a very long pavement-only trip, but otherwise I prefer the feel of the wind to the noise and buffeting of a larger shield.

[Douglas Bouley]

Yeah. I know what you mean. I did a 6000 mile cross country tour on an unfaired stock V4 Sabre about 15 years ago. Dealt with a lot of weather, especially in The Rockies. No luggage even, just strapped a bunch of crap all over the bike like some sort of gypsy. Did just fine. The key, however, is the "15 years ago" part. I see no reason now, as a middle-aged duffer, to put up with discomfort if i can minimize a bit. Nothing left to prove. Also, I am less safe these days when I get hypothermic Doug, who is mo' aged and wimpier than he used to was

On Mar 21, 2006, at 12:08 , tjtacke wrote: > Get rid of them. Why expect total protection from a KLR? 20 years > ago, almost to the day, I rode from central Montana to western > Maryland on an '82 FXR starting on St. Patricks's Day, 1986. I > didn't have heated grips, windshield, an extra bike's worth of > parts, or any of the other things often talked about. What I did > have was snow, blizzards, mid-teens weather, carbertor frosting, my > leathers, Carhardts, mittons, and my trombone (I was preparing for a > faculty recital). I would not have done the ride if I had thought it > was going to be so crappy. I arrived in Montana on the 14th with the > weather in the low 70's. That changed when I left Great Falls on the > 17th. It was in the 40's and was very lightly snowing. 40 miles out > of Billings it was nearly full blizzard with no visability. The > weather stayed cold and I was not able to get to a southern route so > I ended up going across North Dakota, Minnesota route. I made the > 2000 miles in four days. > > In retrospect, I still laugh at the Sturgis guys that trailor > in......I say, "If you tow, don't do." Likewise, trim the KLR stock > windshield down or get rid of it. Enjoy the KLR for what it is. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron and Brenda Moorhouse > wrote: >> >> Anyone else have an opinion on the taller windshields? >> >> Andrus Chesley wrote: >I heard that keeping all > that stuff that does not work, or might be >>> needed later, is how parents with grown children get even with > their >>> children, making them sort through years and tears of "useful > stuff." >>> At least that is what it looked like my Grandpa did to my mom, > and now >>> it is what I think she is doing to us kids...unfortunatly, my >>> momma/daddy does not have any motorcycle parts. >> >> That is a great idea~ I did tell my daughter about 3 years of so > back >> when she was telling me I needed to clean my shop. You clean it , > it's >> yours when I die anyway LOL. >> Oh I remember it took months to clear up the old house when Mom > died so >> we could sell it. Geesh that woman had some STUFF. >> >> Andy in Louisiana >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ron and Brenda Moorhouse >> Modesto, CA 95356 >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[tjtacke]

I actually got rid of my Sabre for the Harley. I got rid of the FXR before everyone and their dogs wanted Harleys. I would love to have it back though........90HP, smooth, mid-50's mileage, and comfortable. Oh well. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Bouley wrote:

> > Yeah. I know what you mean. I did a 6000 mile cross country tour

on

> an unfaired stock V4 Sabre about 15 years ago. Dealt with a lot

of

> weather, especially in The Rockies. No luggage even, just strapped

a

> bunch of crap all over the bike like some sort of gypsy. Did just

fine.

> > The key, however, is the "15 years ago" part. > > I see no reason now, as a middle-aged duffer, to put up with > discomfort if i can minimize a bit. Nothing left to prove. Also, I

am

> less safe these days when I get hypothermic > > Doug, who is mo' aged and wimpier than he used to was > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 12:08 , tjtacke wrote: > > > Get rid of them. Why expect total protection from a KLR? 20 years > > ago, almost to the day, I rode from central Montana to western > > Maryland on an '82 FXR starting on St. Patricks's Day, 1986. I > > didn't have heated grips, windshield, an extra bike's worth of > > parts, or any of the other things often talked about. What I did > > have was snow, blizzards, mid-teens weather, carbertor frosting,

my

> > leathers, Carhardts, mittons, and my trombone (I was preparing

for a

> > faculty recital). I would not have done the ride if I had

thought it

> > was going to be so crappy. I arrived in Montana on the 14th with

the

> > weather in the low 70's. That changed when I left Great Falls on

the

> > 17th. It was in the 40's and was very lightly snowing. 40 miles

out

> > of Billings it was nearly full blizzard with no visability. The > > weather stayed cold and I was not able to get to a southern

route so

> > I ended up going across North Dakota, Minnesota route. I made the > > 2000 miles in four days. > > > > In retrospect, I still laugh at the Sturgis guys that trailor > > in......I say, "If you tow, don't do." Likewise, trim the KLR

stock

> > windshield down or get rid of it. Enjoy the KLR for what it is. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron and Brenda Moorhouse > > wrote: > >> > >> Anyone else have an opinion on the taller windshields? > >> > >> Andrus Chesley wrote: >I heard that keeping all > > that stuff that does not work, or might be > >>> needed later, is how parents with grown children get even with > > their > >>> children, making them sort through years and tears of "useful > > stuff." > >>> At least that is what it looked like my Grandpa did to my mom, > > and now > >>> it is what I think she is doing to us kids...unfortunatly, my > >>> momma/daddy does not have any motorcycle parts. > >> > >> That is a great idea~ I did tell my daughter about 3 years of so > > back > >> when she was telling me I needed to clean my shop. You clean

it ,

> > it's > >> yours when I die anyway LOL. > >> Oh I remember it took months to clear up the old house when Mom > > died so > >> we could sell it. Geesh that woman had some STUFF. > >> > >> Andy in Louisiana > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at:

www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html

> >> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ron and Brenda Moorhouse > >> Modesto, CA 95356 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > > klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Douglas Bouley]

wow! mid-50s? Best I ever got with the V4 was about 40-45 on the long haul. 120k miles on that old girl. Very good bike.

On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:28 , tjtacke wrote: > I actually got rid of my Sabre for the Harley. I got rid of the FXR > before everyone and their dogs wanted Harleys. I would love to have > it back though........90HP, smooth, mid-50's mileage, and > comfortable. Oh well. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Bouley > wrote: >> >> Yeah. I know what you mean. I did a 6000 mile cross country tour > on >> an unfaired stock V4 Sabre about 15 years ago. Dealt with a lot > of >> weather, especially in The Rockies. No luggage even, just strapped > a >> bunch of crap all over the bike like some sort of gypsy. Did just > fine. >> >> The key, however, is the "15 years ago" part. >> >> I see no reason now, as a middle-aged duffer, to put up with >> discomfort if i can minimize a bit. Nothing left to prove. Also, I > am >> less safe these days when I get hypothermic >> >> Doug, who is mo' aged and wimpier than he used to was >> >> On Mar 21, 2006, at 12:08 , tjtacke wrote: >> >>> Get rid of them. Why expect total protection from a KLR? 20 years >>> ago, almost to the day, I rode from central Montana to western >>> Maryland on an '82 FXR starting on St. Patricks's Day, 1986. I >>> didn't have heated grips, windshield, an extra bike's worth of >>> parts, or any of the other things often talked about. What I did >>> have was snow, blizzards, mid-teens weather, carbertor frosting, > my >>> leathers, Carhardts, mittons, and my trombone (I was preparing > for a >>> faculty recital). I would not have done the ride if I had > thought it >>> was going to be so crappy. I arrived in Montana on the 14th with > the >>> weather in the low 70's. That changed when I left Great Falls on > the >>> 17th. It was in the 40's and was very lightly snowing. 40 miles > out >>> of Billings it was nearly full blizzard with no visability. The >>> weather stayed cold and I was not able to get to a southern > route so >>> I ended up going across North Dakota, Minnesota route. I made the >>> 2000 miles in four days. >>> >>> In retrospect, I still laugh at the Sturgis guys that trailor >>> in......I say, "If you tow, don't do." Likewise, trim the KLR > stock >>> windshield down or get rid of it. Enjoy the KLR for what it is. >>> >>> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron and Brenda Moorhouse >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Anyone else have an opinion on the taller windshields? >>>> >>>> Andrus Chesley wrote: >I heard that keeping all >>> that stuff that does not work, or might be >>>>> needed later, is how parents with grown children get even with >>> their >>>>> children, making them sort through years and tears of "useful >>> stuff." >>>>> At least that is what it looked like my Grandpa did to my mom, >>> and now >>>>> it is what I think she is doing to us kids...unfortunatly, my >>>>> momma/daddy does not have any motorcycle parts. >>>> >>>> That is a great idea~ I did tell my daughter about 3 years of so >>> back >>>> when she was telling me I needed to clean my shop. You clean > it , >>> it's >>>> yours when I die anyway LOL. >>>> Oh I remember it took months to clear up the old house when Mom >>> died so >>>> we could sell it. Geesh that woman had some STUFF. >>>> >>>> Andy in Louisiana >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Archive Quicksearch at: >>> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >>>> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >>>> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >>>> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ron and Brenda Moorhouse >>>> Modesto, CA 95356 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ >>> klr650_data_search.html >>> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >>> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >>> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Greg Schmidt]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron and Brenda Moorhouse wrote:

> > Anyone else have an opinion on the taller windshields?

Buffeting is a problem on all the windshields I've tryed on the KLR. A cut down version removing the lip does help for local commuting. I have the Kaw +4 and it is OK for speeds up to about 55- 60. For highway speeds, I've made a bolt on extension from a stock shield that makes it comfortable for touring. Seems like experimenting is the best advice. Many factors like helmet shape, and heighth make a difference. If you ride 2 up, it may be different again. My windshield extension came to be while riding and noticing that by holding about 4 fingers above the winshield really helped the buffeting. I tryed a +11 windshield and really hated having to look through it. I took it off before even trying it at highway speeds. I ride with ear plugs or shur2 earphones with foam ear plug ends. Noise doesn't bother me - buffeting does. Removing the shield all together works ok too. But be prepared to take alot of wind, bugs, and stones on your body at highway speeds. Fatigue is more noticable with wind hitting my body all day. I've rode through swarms of dragonflies before and glad the windshield was there. I like touring with my +4 windshield. The bolt on extension carries easy enough and I use it when I'm gonna be at 60+ speeds for awhile. I also like my heated gear, gps, air conditioning in my car, and my two wheeler to have an engine. The KLR can be a fine comfortable touring bike. Great for the kind of riding and camping I do. I've ditched my motorhome, and car camping equipment. Versatility is probably the KLR's best attribute - make it your own. Greg......Unique A9 in Michigan.

[Stan Davis]

I put a Clearview +11 on my KLR, it bends in the wind a bit but I ignore it. I love the wind protection it provides. I'm 5'11'' and the tall windshield has moved the buffeting to the top of my helmet at about 65 mph. Below that I'm in calm air. I won't be going back to stock. Stan 06 KLR 03 BMW Adventure 00 BMW RT 84 BMW RT Greg Schmidt wrote: --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ron and Brenda Moorhouse wrote:

> > Anyone else have an opinion on the taller windshields?

Buffeting is a problem on all the windshields I've tryed on the KLR. A cut down version removing the lip does help for local commuting. I have the Kaw +4 and it is OK for speeds up to about 55- 60. For highway speeds, I've made a bolt on extension from a stock shield that makes it comfortable for touring. Seems like experimenting is the best advice. Many factors like helmet shape, and heighth make a difference. If you ride 2 up, it may be different again. My windshield extension came to be while riding and noticing that by holding about 4 fingers above the winshield really helped the buffeting. I tryed a +11 windshield and really hated having to look through it. I took it off before even trying it at highway speeds. I ride with ear plugs or shur2 earphones with foam ear plug ends. Noise doesn't bother me - buffeting does. Removing the shield all together works ok too. But be prepared to take alot of wind, bugs, and stones on your body at highway speeds. Fatigue is more noticable with wind hitting my body all day. I've rode through swarms of dragonflies before and glad the windshield was there. I like touring with my +4 windshield. The bolt on extension carries easy enough and I use it when I'm gonna be at 60+ speeds for awhile. I also like my heated gear, gps, air conditioning in my car, and my two wheeler to have an engine. The KLR can be a fine comfortable touring bike. Great for the kind of riding and camping I do. I've ditched my motorhome, and car camping equipment. Versatility is probably the KLR's best attribute - make it your own. Greg......Unique A9 in Michigan. Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Lawrence]

Hi, Guys I could use a little help from the plastic experts. I have one of the 11" high windshields. (Bought at HT. I live in Boise, and visit them in person, so no complaints.) However, the windshield does not work well. It puts all the air right in my face. I'd like to tip it more vertical...move the top forward a couple or three inches. Tried putting a wedge under the inside lower edge, but that did not work, and eventually fell out anyway. So, I am thinking of heating it and bending it. Is it the right kind of plastic? (Looks like plexiglass, which I heated and bent many, many years ago in shop class.) If so, how should I do it? Can I use a propane soldering torch? How should I hold it? Am I likely to blow anything up? Also, as part of my prior adjusting, I broke off one of the extenders that goes around one of the lower bolts. (Might have something to do with that day the bike went more or less horizontal three times in one afternoon in the Boise foothills...which qualify as large and very steep mountains in much of the world). So far the piece has stayed with me. What kind of glue does it take to glue it back together? Thanks! Larry, Boise ID