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[rmeredith@shaw.ca]

Garmin E-trex is my first GPS. http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVista/ Easy to use and mounts on the bars with a separate handlebar mount. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "vintageracer8882" wrote:

> what would be a good beginner gps? keep in mind that i am not very > tech savy. im looking for one that i can use to keep trails stored. i > did a d/s this past weekend and still have the roll chart but i > thought a gps would be cool to store the trail route into. im looking > 4 something simple. im also wondering what you do if u miss a turn > while plotting a trail on your gps. do u have to reset something when > u turn around to go back and find the correct trail ? id also like to > be able to mount it on the bars. simple, user friendly and cheap is > always a good thing also. thanks guys, scott

[Kathi Clark]

I have an etrex vista that I absolutely love for hiking, kayking, etc. What mount are you using for it? Kathi rmeredith@... wrote: Garmin E-trex is my first GPS. http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVista/ Easy to use and mounts on the bars with a separate handlebar mount. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "vintageracer8882" wrote:

> what would be a good beginner gps? keep in mind that i am not very > tech savy. im looking for one that i can use to keep trails stored. i > did a d/s this past weekend and still have the roll chart but i > thought a gps would be cool to store the trail route into. im looking > 4 something simple. im also wondering what you do if u miss a turn > while plotting a trail on your gps. do u have to reset something when > u turn around to go back and find the correct trail ? id also like to > be able to mount it on the bars. simple, user friendly and cheap is > always a good thing also. thanks guys, scott

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[Arden Kysely]

I've got the eTrex Legend and am quite happy with it, but I still carry maps and a compass in unfamiliar territory. A GPS will tell you almost exactly where you are, but if you can't relate that to anything you're still lost. __Arden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Kathi Clark wrote:

> I have an etrex vista that I absolutely love for hiking, kayking,

etc. What mount are you using for it?

> > Kathi > > rmeredith@s... wrote: > Garmin E-trex is my first GPS.

http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVista/

> Easy to use and mounts on the bars with a separate handlebar mount. > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "vintageracer8882" > wrote: > > what would be a good beginner gps? keep in mind that i am not

very

> > tech savy. im looking for one that i can use to keep trails

stored. i

> > did a d/s this past weekend and still have the roll chart but i > > thought a gps would be cool to store the trail route into. im

looking

> > 4 something simple. im also wondering what you do if u miss a

turn

> > while plotting a trail on your gps. do u have to reset something

when

> > u turn around to go back and find the correct trail ? id also

like to

> > be able to mount it on the bars. simple, user friendly and cheap

is

> > always a good thing also. thanks guys, scott > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List

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[Krgrife@aol.com]

In a message dated 7/1/04 11:12:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, arden646@... writes:

> A GPS will tell you > almost exactly where you are, but if you can't relate that to > anything you're still lost. >

Or as a buddy pointed out when I first got a GPS for Mexico travel about 8 years ago, "Now you'll know exactly where you're dying." Kurt Grife [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Devon]

I just got the data cable for my GPS, and downloaded the waypoints and tracks I'd recorded. Since you need a map and compass for safety's sake anyway, I got a cheap GPS that has little map storage- a garmin eTrex, $99 at Target. My "mount" was a rag for cushioning, and lots of duct tape to hold it on the fuel tank cap. It survived 10 miles of rocks and technical single-track, so I'm thinking it will handle most of what I would dish out. On the highway I put it in the map window of my tank bag. I got the data cable and the C-battery pack. I am going to overlay the tracks onto a topo map I have of the riding area. Seems pretty nice, the best part is "where is that trail we were on earlier", or "where is the campground", and (especially if you record waypoints at a few major trail junctions or trailheads) it will point you back. I greased the batteries, and duct-taped them as well. No vibration problems. Devon Krgrife@... wrote:

>In a message dated 7/1/04 11:12:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >arden646@... writes: > > > > >>A GPS will tell you >>almost exactly where you are, but if you can't relate that to >>anything you're still lost. >> >> >> > >Or as a buddy pointed out when I first got a GPS for Mexico travel about 8 >years ago, "Now you'll know exactly where you're dying." >Kurt Grife > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[April Neave & Norm Keller]

Re GPS: A few words of advice: I have had an Etrex Venture for a couple of years and wish I had the Venture but the $ difference was a lot greater back then. 1)Now, go for the compass model as it is a lot nicer to have a compass which is active when you're no moving. 2) Absolutely buy a cigarette lighter adapter and wire a socket in. You will want to run the GPS with light on for much of the time as it makes the display easier to see. Without the lighter adapter the GPS light will keep going off after about 10 seconds and you will have to squeeze a button to turn it on again. Not nice on a bumpy back road. 3) Buy a handle bar mount! 4) Absolutely buy an adapter to a PC so that you can use mapping software to up load and download to maps. Being able to set waypoints on a map and then download to your GPS is really useful and being able to upload and save your tracks to maps is great. Maps can be updated to include roads and trails travelled despite that they may not be on the map. A program such a Ozzie Explorer allows you to share this information. 5) Buy a GPS which allows you to set up a screen with large display of the info you most want to see. I use time, speed, average speed..... FEW Norm

[scttotis]

One other thing to think about. My new laptop doesn't have a com port, only usb. Com ports are officially obsolete. My old gps(garmin 45xl) is great and cheap on ebay, but I have to use it with an old slow laptop, or get an adapter that requires software to convert a usb port to function like a com port. A lot of the current gps's are still configured for com, so you might consider getting something designed to work w usb. The old slow laptop does have its advantage, I don't care if it is ruined on the road somewhere. I use microsoft streets and trips, great in my experience, turns the whole country into a city map, and a program called expertgps, which downloads topo and aerial maps for you very quickly as you scroll with a mouse. You can save the downloaded maps and images to a cd and take it with you. You can send/receive/create routes with this software and it costs about 50.00. search w google for expertgps. This is one amazing piece of software, a must have in my opinion. DSL speeds needed for fast downloads of maps. I don't know if the streets and trips can create routes for programming the gps, but works great as a moving map display on the laptop when the gps is plugged in, and also will work according to the literature with pocket pc's. Scott --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "April Neave & Norm Keller" wrote:

> Re GPS: A few words of advice: > > I have had an Etrex Venture for a couple of years and wish I had the

Venture

> but the $ difference was a lot greater back then. > 1)Now, go for the compass model as it is a lot nicer to have a

compass which

> is active when you're no moving. > 2) Absolutely buy a cigarette lighter adapter and wire a socket in.

You will

> want to run the GPS with light on for much of the time as it makes the > display easier to see. Without the lighter adapter the GPS light

will keep

> going off after about 10 seconds and you will have to squeeze a

button to

> turn it on again. Not nice on a bumpy back road. > 3) Buy a handle bar mount! > 4) Absolutely buy an adapter to a PC so that you can use mapping

software to

> up load and download to maps. Being able to set waypoints on a map

and then

> download to your GPS is really useful and being able to upload and

save your

> tracks to maps is great. Maps can be updated to include roads and trails > travelled despite that they may not be on the map. A program such a

Ozzie

> Explorer allows you to share this information. > 5) Buy a GPS which allows you to set up a screen with large display

of the

> info you most want to see. I use time, speed, average speed..... > > FEW > > Norm

[scttotis]

I need to reply to my own post. So, a good solution may be a pocket pc w MS streets and trips if you can get it all for less than a dedicated gps unit that is pricy. Maybe other software would be better for route planning w the gps, but I just route in the streets and trips, and follow the line I have maped on the moving map display. If I want to use a primitave gps w waypoints and routes, I use expertgps to create routes and upload them to the gps unit.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "scttotis" wrote: > > One other thing to think about. My new laptop doesn't have a com port, > only usb. Com ports are officially obsolete. My old gps(garmin 45xl) > is great and cheap on ebay, but I have to use it with an old slow > laptop, or get an adapter that requires software to convert a usb port > to function like a com port. A lot of the current gps's are still > configured for com, so you might consider getting something designed > to work w usb. The old slow laptop does have its advantage, I don't > care if it is ruined on the road somewhere. I use microsoft streets > and trips, great in my experience, turns the whole country into a city > map, and a program called expertgps, which downloads topo and aerial > maps for you very quickly as you scroll with a mouse. You can save the > downloaded maps and images to a cd and take it with you. You can > send/receive/create routes with this software and it costs about > 50.00. search w google for expertgps. This is one amazing piece of > software, a must have in my opinion. DSL speeds needed for fast > downloads of maps. I don't know if the streets and trips can create > routes for programming the gps, but works great as a moving map > display on the laptop when the gps is plugged in, and also will work > according to the literature with pocket pc's. > > Scott > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "April Neave & Norm Keller" > wrote: > > Re GPS: A few words of advice: > > > > I have had an Etrex Venture for a couple of years and wish I had the > Venture > > but the $ difference was a lot greater back then. > > 1)Now, go for the compass model as it is a lot nicer to have a > compass which > > is active when you're no moving. > > 2) Absolutely buy a cigarette lighter adapter and wire a socket in. > You will > > want to run the GPS with light on for much of the time as it makes the > > display easier to see. Without the lighter adapter the GPS light > will keep > > going off after about 10 seconds and you will have to squeeze a > button to > > turn it on again. Not nice on a bumpy back road. > > 3) Buy a handle bar mount! > > 4) Absolutely buy an adapter to a PC so that you can use mapping > software to > > up load and download to maps. Being able to set waypoints on a map > and then > > download to your GPS is really useful and being able to upload and > save your > > tracks to maps is great. Maps can be updated to include roads and trails > > travelled despite that they may not be on the map. A program such a > Ozzie > > Explorer allows you to share this information. > > 5) Buy a GPS which allows you to set up a screen with large display > of the > > info you most want to see. I use time, speed, average speed..... > > > > FEW > > > > Norm

[Eric L. Green]

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, scttotis wrote:

> One other thing to think about. My new laptop doesn't have a com port, > only usb. Com ports are officially obsolete. My old gps(garmin 45xl)

This presented some problems programming my Garmin eTrex when I upgraded to a new laptop, but buying a USB RS232 thingy solved that problem. I think it costed $15 from outpost.com or something like that, i.e., no big deal. While I would prefer a GPS that had a direct USB hookup rather than a RS232 hookup, I'm too cheap to discard a GPS that works just because it isn't the "latest and greatest". -E

[April Neave & Norm Keller]

> One other thing to think about. My new laptop doesn't have a com port, > only usb. Com ports are officially obsolete

Good point! I forgot to mention that my Etrex Venture uses com. port but a com. to USB adapter works well on one of my Compaq notebooks, my wife's desk top and my Sony notebook. It refused to connect with my other Compaq.(?) The Street & Trips and Ozi moving map work well but I can't really find an application excepting to mention to friends about this neat thing I can do....... FWIW Norm