help needed...250 will not start

[grufrude]

With deer/antelope hunting season only two months away, I'm thinking about using my new KLR as a more-agile 4X4. Anyone use their bike as a hunting mount? How have you carried your rifle (I typically use a scoped bolt-action 30-06 or .243)? The Kolpin rifle scabbard seems to be the choice of the ATV crowd -- anyone found handy ways to mount it to the KLR? I'd prefer NOT to sling the rifle on my body while riding for the safety of both me and the rifle, though I know, with the proper sling sytem (and I have a couple that should work) that this is a possibility.

[Jeff Saline]

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:30:26 -0000 "grufrude" writes:

> With deer/antelope hunting season only two months away, I'm thinking > > about using my new KLR as a more-agile 4X4. Anyone use their bike > as a > hunting mount? How have you carried your rifle (I typically use a > scoped bolt-action 30-06 or .243)? The Kolpin rifle scabbard seems > to > be the choice of the ATV crowd -- anyone found handy ways to mount > it > to the KLR? I'd prefer NOT to sling the rifle on my body while > riding > for the safety of both me and the rifle, though I know, with the > proper > sling sytem (and I have a couple that should work) that this is a > possibility.

<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Hugh, I already sent you another note off list... but... How are you thinking of carrying the carcass out? Or... are you just planning on going out but not actually shooting anything? : ) I'm pretty sure that you'll be hitting what you shoot at. : ) I've seen some of your Wyoming antelope and deer and I think you'd be better off trying to carry a lazy fat passenger than a dead Wyoming antelope or deer. Some of your animals get pretty darn big. Now is the next question... Anybody ever put an all terrain trailer behind a KLR? : ) Best, Jeff Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[grufrude]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:

> of carrying the carcass out? Or... are you just planning on going out > but not actually shooting anything? : ) I'm pretty sure that you'll

be

> hitting what you shoot at. : ) > > I've seen some of your Wyoming antelope and deer and I think you'd be > better off trying to carry a lazy fat passenger than a dead Wyoming > antelope or deer. Some of your animals get pretty darn big. > > Now is the next question... Anybody ever put an all terrain trailer > behind a KLR? : )

Jeff, In fact I've got a game cart that I am looking at attaching to the rack or swing arm (it was designed to be pulled behind an ATV). I think I could probably lash a small antelope or deer to the KLR and ride out a short distance, but you are right -- any of the bigger ones would be too much. However, If I could stick the KLR and the game cart in the back of my 4X4 diesel pickup, I could deploy the KLR upon arrival at the places I hunt,which are pretty gnarly and take a long, uncomfortable time to traverse in the truck but would be a piece of cake on the KLR. Even if I had to eventually take the truck in to retrieve a downed animal, the ability to scout and set up the stalk using the KLR would be a BIG advantage.

[Jeff Saline]

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:08:08 -0000 "grufrude" writes:

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > of carrying the carcass out? Or... are you just planning on going > out > > but not actually shooting anything? : ) I'm pretty sure that > you'll > be > > hitting what you shoot at. : ) > > > > I've seen some of your Wyoming antelope and deer and I think you'd > be > > better off trying to carry a lazy fat passenger than a dead > Wyoming > > antelope or deer. Some of your animals get pretty darn big. > > > > Now is the next question... Anybody ever put an all terrain > trailer > > behind a KLR? : ) > > > Jeff, > > In fact I've got a game cart that I am looking at attaching to the > rack > or swing arm (it was designed to be pulled behind an ATV). I think > I > could probably lash a small antelope or deer to the KLR and ride out > a > short distance, but you are right -- any of the bigger ones would be > > too much. > > However, If I could stick the KLR and the game cart in the back of > my > 4X4 diesel pickup, I could deploy the KLR upon arrival at the places > I > hunt,which are pretty gnarly and take a long, uncomfortable time to > > traverse in the truck but would be a piece of cake on the KLR. Even > if > I had to eventually take the truck in to retrieve a downed animal, > the > ability to scout and set up the stalk using the KLR would be a BIG > advantage.

<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Hugh, Seems to me you'd be better off hooking the trailer to the frame than the swing arm or rack. A low mounting point maybe near or at the rear footpeg mount would work best I'm thinking. If mounted to the swing arm that would add huge amounts of unsprung weight to the rear. If mounted at the rack I think it would maybe lighten the front end and also leverage wise it would be tough to control. This should be a fun experiment for you. I'll be looking forward to seeing pictures etc. Best, Jeff Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

[Cindy Patterson]

I have used motorcycles for years to get into a hunting area and pack critters out (up to and including elk). A rack on the back goes a long way towards tieing something down though you can lay them across the seat and "ride" them out that way. As far as a scabbard goes I use a Kolpin hard gun case that mounts with a bracket that has 2 pins that go in the holes of the scabbard (they may not make this model any longer). I have mounted them on the front rack so the barrel ran down parrallel to the right fork. In rough country it is intimidating to have the butt stock sticking up in your face as you lean over the handle bars during steep climbs out of a hole. I then mounted it to the rear rack and ran it just above the footpeg with the buttstock out the back (don't flip over backwards or your stock is toast) Both methods protect the gun fairly well should you tip over. I have used the forks on the handle bars as well....just don't go down or your gun is toast. I have used this method on Honda 90's, a Honda Reflex trials bike, a Honda Fatcat, and a Yamaha TW200 and have packed out 4 antelope, 5 or 6 deer, and several elk (a quarter or two at a time) plus a number of turkeys. One of my hunting partners packed 4 deer out on a Yamaha 175 one year. We had them laid across the seat and rear rack and he sat on top and rode them out and we walked along side and help balance him in the rough areas. Good Luck with your hunt. I will be using the Fatcat for my moose hunt this year (if my ankle heals up adequately). The KLR is too tall for my taste in rough back country (I am not a good enough rider to not put my feet down in the rough spots). Pat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[gmay131313]

Hi Lou, check the simple stuff first...ie. check the battery fluid level, charge the battery (not with a car charger) and check the connections for corrosion and ensure they are tight. Replace the sparkplug (if you're going to remove it to check it why not just replace it), and check for spark before you install the new plug. Close the gas petcock and remove the carb drain cap, open the petcock to ensure you are getting gas flow. It might be this simple if you don't have a vacuum operated unit, not sure about the 250, maybe someone else can confirm this, not sure of what the best way to deal with a vacuum operated unit is. If you didn't drain the gas from the carb after you ran it dry there was still gas there which could plug a jet. Lastly you didn't say where it was stored so I would pull the air filter and clean it or at least check it in case you have a new friend nesting there inhibiting air flow. Good luck and have a great night.....Greg --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "tilster187" wrote:

> > Hello: I just got back from a business trip and my 250 was sitting

for 2

> months up on a jack. Before I left I filled the tank and put seafoam > in it, then turned off the petcock and drove it dry. I dont remember > doing anything else to it mechanically. So today while I was trying

to

> get it going, it would not start. I turned the petcock back on, the > little fuel tank shows full, but I have no battery juice. I was > kick-starting it for like an hour, in this heat it was not fun. It > coughed a few time for 1/2 a sec but would not catch. I even tried

to

> run it down a hill and jump-start it, but that didnt work either.

When I

> tried that the rear tire locked up and slid most of the time, and > coughed only a couple times. I did catch the odor of gas when it > coughed though, so there must be fuel in there, right? When I was > trying various ways of starting, I tried giving it some gas a few > times, tried various choke positions, nothing. Anyways, after all

the

> time, I am sore, sweaty, and tired, with nothing to show for it. > > I need some help. What is the deal? How do I get it back on the

road?

> Is it the gas? Battery? Something else? For the life, and sweat, of

me

> I can't figure it out. Let me know what you think. Thanks. Lou >