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[dooden]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Saltzer" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Watson > wrote: > > I'm setting up my (new to me) A18 KLR. The speedo sure seems off, > so I grab the GPS and spend a few minutes really trying to be > accurate. After a few minutes of testing, I run the numbers at the > various test speeds and find that the speedo reads a whopping average > 7.5% too fast. Helloooo, quality! > > > > I'm sure it's not a big deal to a lot of people but I find that > pretty excessive, and based on the KLR FAQ's and sites, this is a > pretty common error. When my cars do this, I simply buy another $6 > plastic tranny gear with a different tooth count to get the ratio > right. But here, I assume I'm stuck, and that's just the way it is, > right? I wasn't sure if anyone ever tackled recalibrating the speedo > spring (because the odo, surprisingly, is almost dead on as-is)... or > if everyone simply blows it off. > > > > Bill > > I said screw it, I'm leaving it the way it is. But I always try to > look at the good in things, and so I realize that this little flaw is > just to help me stay away from MORE tickets. When I'm tooling down > the road at 70 (in a 50) it calms me to look down and see my needle > so high in the digits when I'm actually only doing 65. > > Being one that has been pulled over around 35 times, and have > received about 25 tickets over the last 22 years, I can appreciate > that. > > MrMoose > A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

Mr Moose if you ever get to the U.P. Don't ask to drive my stuff ok... (0) Tickets other than one parking ticket long long ago, been pulled over a total of 3 times, never for speeding however. Not bad for 26 years of driving eh... (1) Improper Lighting (2) Improper Signaling ((both of these my 1st yr driving)) (3) Tires crossed the solid line getting into a turn lane in a rich neighborhood driving my old rusty pick-up truck. Cop asked my if I had any moving violations, I told him never, he looked at me and handed me my lisc. back and warned me I should not cross solid lines. Just like everybody did at that intersection, since the turn lane held about 3 cars worth and typically there would be 10 waiting to turn left. Dooden (Mind like a tack, perhaps short dull one, but a tack) A15 Green Ape

[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

I too find the KLR's lying speedo to be a benefit. In my youth I had my liscence revoked in 3 states. Speed was my game, whether my Z-1000 or my Datsun 510 collection with 240Z strait 6's, I hauled ass. Then I grew up. I noticed the people who were speeding like me were not only assholes, but were paying through the teeth in fines and insurance rates. (I had had kids too, another great reason to slow down) Now that I am older (wiser?) I have had a total of 1 ticket in the last 20 years, and enjoy the lowest insurance rates one can enjoy. I think too that the majority of Cops dont focus on Bikes, or give them a break simply because we have it bad enough out there in the land of the steel cage. One day on a barren country road out here, I had thumper at 90 (speedo reading) in a 50. Only one car on the horizon coming toward me, as I got closer, sure enough, stater. He flipped on the twinklers on the roof, I shut ot down and he just kept going, it was a gentle "slow down dumb ass". --- Dooden wrote:

> > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Saltzer" > wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Watson > > > wrote: > > > I'm setting up my (new to me) A18 KLR. The > speedo sure seems off, > > so I grab the GPS and spend a few minutes really > trying to be > > accurate. After a few minutes of testing, I run > the numbers at the > > various test speeds and find that the speedo reads > a whopping average > > 7.5% too fast. Helloooo, quality! > > > > > > I'm sure it's not a big deal to a lot of people > but I find that > > pretty excessive, and based on the KLR FAQ's and > sites, this is a > > pretty common error. When my cars do this, I > simply buy another $6 > > plastic tranny gear with a different tooth count > to get the ratio > > right. But here, I assume I'm stuck, and that's > just the way it is, > > right? I wasn't sure if anyone ever tackled > recalibrating the speedo > > spring (because the odo, surprisingly, is almost > dead on as-is)... or > > if everyone simply blows it off. > > > > > > Bill > > > > I said screw it, I'm leaving it the way it is. > But I always try to > > look at the good in things, and so I realize that > this little flaw is > > just to help me stay away from MORE tickets. When > I'm tooling down > > the road at 70 (in a 50) it calms me to look down > and see my needle > > so high in the digits when I'm actually only doing > 65. > > > > Being one that has been pulled over around 35 > times, and have > > received about 25 tickets over the last 22 years, > I can appreciate > > that. > > > > MrMoose > > A8 (Barbie and Ken special) > > Mr Moose if you ever get to the U.P. Don't ask to > drive my stuff > ok... > > (0) Tickets other than one parking ticket long long > ago, been pulled > over a total of 3 times, never for speeding however. > Not bad for 26 > years of driving eh... > > (1) Improper Lighting > (2) Improper Signaling ((both of these my 1st yr > driving)) > (3) Tires crossed the solid line getting into a turn > lane in a rich > neighborhood driving my old rusty pick-up truck. > Cop asked my if I > had any moving violations, I told him never, he > looked at me and > handed me my lisc. back and warned me I should not > cross solid lines. > Just like everybody did at that intersection, since > the turn lane > held about 3 cars worth and typically there would be > 10 waiting to > turn left. > > Dooden (Mind like a tack, perhaps short dull one, > but a tack) > A15 Green Ape > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >

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[Doug Herr]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Bill Watson wrote:

> I wasn't sure if anyone ever tackled recalibrating the speedo > spring (because the odo, surprisingly, is almost dead on > as-is)... or if everyone simply blows it off.

I have used the gps to figure mine and read it using that correction. This does not bother me since I do need something to help slow me down. But if it bothers you... Since the odo is correct you don't want to calibrate anything obviously, but you could change the numbers on the face of the speedo. If you can get the cover off of it then you could just add your own numbers to the face. -- Doug Herr doug@...

[West Hovland]

Put it in a bubble and blow it off. Every bike I ever owned ( 43+) has had a speedo error of some sort. My KLR with the overly optimistic error keeps me from exceeding the speed limit... to a certain extent. My VTX is surprisingly accurate... within 2-3 mph at 60mph. A $6 part can fix a speedo error on an auto??!!?? How come my local speedometer shop wants $200+ to recalibrate my 87' Olds? West

----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Watson To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.comDSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:00 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Speedo Error I'm setting up my (new to me) A18 KLR. The speedo sure seems off, so I grab the GPS and spend a few minutes really trying to be accurate. After a few minutes of testing, I run the numbers at the various test speeds and find that the speedo reads a whopping average 7.5% too fast. Helloooo, quality! I'm sure it's not a big deal to a lot of people but I find that pretty excessive, and based on the KLR FAQ's and sites, this is a pretty common error. When my cars do this, I simply buy another $6 plastic tranny gear with a different tooth count to get the ratio right. But here, I assume I'm stuck, and that's just the way it is, right? I wasn't sure if anyone ever tackled recalibrating the speedo spring (because the odo, surprisingly, is almost dead on as-is)... or if everyone simply blows it off. Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[West Hovland]

Zoinks! What kinda insurance rates do you have? Here in Oregon they would have castrated you well before you reached your 4th ticket. I found out just the other day that the Oregon State police has revamped their "fines" structure. It could be just rumor, but a reckless driving ticket (ie: pulling a wheelie) is now up to $5000. West

----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Saltzer To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.comDSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:42 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Speedo Error Snip... Being one that has been pulled over around 35 times, and have received about 25 tickets over the last 22 years, I can appreciate that. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Trail-Flyer]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "WEST HOVLAND" wrote:

> > A $6 part can fix a speedo error on an auto??!!?? How come my local speedometer shop wants $200+ to recalibrate my 87' Olds? > West

Probably because you abused them when installing their DirectTV system, like you did to me ~ "Pay Back" is nearly as good as "Pay Pal" Someone in Canada.

[Bill Watson]

Thanks, everyone for the replies. I do get a kick out of the attitude that it "keeps me from speeding"... I understand the logic, but that's the same argument used by people who set their clocks ahead so they won't be late. To each his own, I like the real number - then there's no game-playing or correction! My Honda was only off 1%, so I was quite surprised to see 7-8% on the KLR. I'll just have to get used to it. I brought it up because a lot of members who change gearing quote rpm at certain speeds, but it's probably useless info as I'm sure they're quoting indicated mph. Thanks to all. I'll just get used to subtracting 5 mph at most road speeds and move on. Bill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[April Neave & Norm Keller]

>I don't know about our friends in the north(Canada)that use the

metric system, if theirs are closer or not> Three A18's around here are consistent as to readings but off by about 10% in highway. The percentage of error isn't linear according to my GPS but 10% works closely enough. If the error bothers someone it could be somewhat aided by using touch-up paint to place a dot on the speedo glass to indicate the real mph. If you don't like the indicator dot, just use a blade to scrape it off. FWIW Norm

[gavinmacfarlane]

As a friend from the South West (Australia) we have the metric system and my speedo has the same error, at 110Km I am doing 103Km, 120 = 110. Gavin A18 Victoria Australia --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Jones" wrote:

> > I guess I just blew it off. As the front tire wares it will get > worse.I don't know about our friends in the north(Canada)that use the > metric system, if theirs are closer or not.I guess that would apply > to the KLR riders across the waters too. I just use the gps when I > need accurate speed, and figure the bikes is 10% fast. > Joe A18 SE Ky 8100 > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Watson > wrote: > > I'm setting up my (new to me) A18 KLR. The speedo sure seems off, > so I grab the GPS and spend a few minutes really trying to be > accurate. After a few minutes of testing, I run the numbers at the > various test speeds and find that the speedo reads a whopping average > 7.5% too fast. Helloooo, quality! > > > > I'm sure it's not a big deal to a lot of people but I find that > pretty excessive, and based on the KLR FAQ's and sites, this is a > pretty common error. When my cars do this, I simply buy another $6 > plastic tranny gear with a different tooth count to get the ratio > right. But here, I assume I'm stuck, and that's just the way it is, > right? I wasn't sure if anyone ever tackled recalibrating the speedo > spring (because the odo, surprisingly, is almost dead on as-is)... or > if everyone simply blows it off. > > > > Bill > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! Try it today! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Joseph Jones]

Thanks for the input "friend from the south west"(I have to get used to the global reach of the www) I always assumed the southwest to be AZ,NM S CA. And again thanks for the input, I would truly like to come there and spend about 6 months a year. I really don't like cold weather, and I hear it is getting summer time there. That would be the best of both worlds, summer all year long, talk about a riding season. The best to all of you on the other side of the world, and enjoy the weather. Joe A18 SE Ky 8100 --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "gavinmacfarlane" wrote:

> > As a friend from the South West (Australia) we have the metric

system

> and my speedo has the same error, at 110Km I am doing 103Km, 120 =

110.

> > Gavin > A18 Victoria Australia > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Jones" > wrote: > > > > I guess I just blew it off. As the front tire wares it will get > > worse.I don't know about our friends in the north(Canada)that use

the

> > metric system, if theirs are closer or not.I guess that would

apply

> > to the KLR riders across the waters too. I just use the gps when

I

> > need accurate speed, and figure the bikes is 10% fast. > > Joe A18 SE Ky 8100 > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Watson > > wrote: > > > I'm setting up my (new to me) A18 KLR. The speedo sure seems

off,

> > so I grab the GPS and spend a few minutes really trying to be > > accurate. After a few minutes of testing, I run the numbers at

the

> > various test speeds and find that the speedo reads a whopping

average

> > 7.5% too fast. Helloooo, quality! > > > > > > I'm sure it's not a big deal to a lot of people but I find that > > pretty excessive, and based on the KLR FAQ's and sites, this is a > > pretty common error. When my cars do this, I simply buy another

$6

> > plastic tranny gear with a different tooth count to get the ratio > > right. But here, I assume I'm stuck, and that's just the way it

is,

> > right? I wasn't sure if anyone ever tackled recalibrating the

speedo

> > spring (because the odo, surprisingly, is almost dead on as-

is)... or

> > if everyone simply blows it off. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! Try it today! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]