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[Sarel Wagner]

Is the Scottoiler worthwhile? Or just replace the chain more often? Sarel Sunny South Africa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[teamster1997]

I love mine. I've had it for probably the last 20,000 miles or so, and it is sure nice not to have to worry about oiling the chain. I just got the dual oiler in last Friday from Arrowhead, and plan on installing it this coming weekend. I don't regret buying it. My 2cents. Tim......... Shelton, Wa. 2006 KLR w/t 29,700+ miles --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Sarel Wagner" wrote:

> > Is the Scottoiler worthwhile? Or just replace the chain more often? > > Sarel > Sunny South Africa > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Sampson" wrote:

> > > Robin wrote: > > I've been thinking about getting one of the automatic chain oilers as > my next 'mod' to my bike, and I was looking at the Scottoiler. It is > supposed to work off the vacuum of the engine, without affecting > performance. Yet it will dispense a metered amount of oil directly to > the chain. Has anyone ever installed this on their bike? I would like > to hear any feedback, good or bad. > > > I keep hearing those Scottoilers really work well, and I know they > do--great product----and yes they do work off the vacuum of your > engine---and no they don't affect engine performance. They work just like > the fuel petcock on your KLR. They just take a little vacuum when the engine > is running to open them up. > These things are fine----however I'll just give you my opinion why I don't > want one on my bike-----chain lubing is very easy and quick and I don't want > another gizzmo on my bike to take care of such a simple matter. Just a > personal preference-----I would rather spend 30 seconds a day lubing my > chain than have the automatic oiler--buying it--installing it---the extra > weight--maintaning it, etc. Part of my keep it simple strategy. > Also-------if you still want one-----I would really think again if you ride > offroad much---it might not take the abuse or you might tear it up----just > something to think about. > > I'm sure others will give you many reasons for having one-----so you decide > !!! >

Consistent with the view that chain "lubes" do not actually lubricate the sprockets and rollers for more than a few hundred feet of operation, it follows naturally that if you want to actually lubricate your chain in a meaningful way, you must use a chain oiler that provides a continual flow of lubricant. For on-road operation, the choice should be easy: use an oiler like the Scott oiler for maximum drive train life. For off-road operation, one question that arises is: does the lubricant keep the chain clean, or does it exacerbate wear by attracting grit? If you cannot find a lubricant that will wash grit off the chain, then you are better off simply to treat it with WD40, which may not lubricate, but at least will not turn to grinding paste when mixed with dirt. The other question is: will your off-road use dislodge the lubricant delivery mechanism? If it does, then you might as well not have bothered.

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

I'm too lazy to worry about oiling my chain. I put a Scottoiler on my KLR at 500 miles. Haven't looked back. It does throw a bit of oil on the rear rim though. Mainly because oil is cheap, and it is easy to clean off with Simple Green. I think I have read here reports of double chain life with it. Jeff A20 -----Original Message----- From: teamster1997@... To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 10:55 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Scottoiler I love mine. I've had it for probably the last 20,000 miles or so, and it is sure nice not to have to worry about oiling the chain. I just got the dual oiler in last Friday from Arrowhead, and plan on installing it this coming weekend. I don't regret buying it. My 2cents. Tim......... Shelton, Wa. 2006 KLR w/t 29,700+ miles --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Sarel Wagner" wrote:

> > Is the Scottoiler worthwhile? Or just replace the chain more often? > > Sarel > Sunny South Africa > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Sarel Wagner" wrote:

> Is the Scottoiler worthwhile? Or just replace the chain more often?

I have one of these. Whether it's worthwhile or not depends on where and how you ride. I got one after my chain got rusty after riding a few days in the rain because WD-40 washes off easily, and a few links seized up because the rust tore up the o-rings. However, if I wasn't riding long distances in the rain on the KLR, if I was just riding it as an urban commuter bike, I'd recommend just spraying your chain with WD-40 every morning before jumping on your bike (no need for a thorough complete spray, just a squirt at the visible parts) and you'll keep your chain nice and shiny and clean and protected against rust (about all that matters for O-ring type chains, where the actual "lube" is actually contained within the links). As far as servicability, there's only one moving part (a vacuum-actuated plunger) with an adjustment knob for how far the plunger can move. There's not much of a "there" there. The only real issue is where/how to mount the little nozzle at the sprocket so it won't get snatched by the chain/sprocket and torn off, or snatched by brush and torn off. Other than that, there's not much to go wrong. My Scottoiler has been on my bike for over 10,000 miles now without any issues at all. I don't see any reason why it can't outlast my bike. -E

[hofsassw]

Any opinions on the scottoiler would be appreciated! Bill Jax, MS

[steve_1953r51]

Love the Scottoiler....Put some oil in the reservour every once in a while and the chain is always oiled. I am so used to not oiling the chain manually that I forget to oil the chain on my other bike. It was easy to install and has been trouble free. I suspect you will hear from my buddy John as he loves his too. Steve

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "hofsassw" wrote: > > Any opinions on the scottoiler would be appreciated! Bill Jax, MS >

[Scott St. Hillier]

Does the oil fling off and get all over everything? On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:18:03 -0000, "steve_1953r51" said:

> Love the Scottoiler....Put some oil in the reservour every once in a > while and the chain is always oiled. I am so used to not oiling the > chain manually that I forget to oil the chain on my other bike. > > It was easy to install and has been trouble free. > > I suspect you will hear from my buddy John as he loves his too. > > Steve > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "hofsassw" wrote: > > > > Any opinions on the scottoiler would be appreciated! Bill Jax, MS > > > >

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[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Scott St. Hillier" wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:18:03 -0000, "steve_1953r51"

said:

> > Love the Scottoiler.... > Does the oil fling off and get all over everything?

Yes and no. It does fling, but wipe it off with a rag and your wheel is clean again. Basically the only stuff that doesn't fling is the sticky crap that turns your chain guide into sandpaper for your chain, or the "chain wax" that is utterly useless as anything other than decoration for your chain (certainly does nothing to increase the life of your chain).

[steve_1953r51]

It flings off a little bit but you can control the amount of oil going on the chain. There is an adjustment done by rotating the top of the reservour....goes from 1 to 10 and above that is the priming position. If you are riding on the street you can leave it at a lower setting and not have much fling. If you are on a dusty road you can set it higher to get more lube, but also a little more fling. I am pretty fastidious about having a clean bike and the amount of fling doesn't bother me much. Some people use chain saw bar oil amongst other ois, but so far I have only used Scottoiler oil. Maybe a little more expensive, but a bottle lasts a long time....like the first bottle lasted a couple of years. Steve --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Scott St. Hillier" wrote:

> > Does the oil fling off and get all over everything? > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:18:03 -0000, "steve_1953r51" > said: > > Love the Scottoiler....Put some oil in the reservour every once

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> > chain manually that I forget to oil the chain on my other bike. > > > > It was easy to install and has been trouble free. > > > > I suspect you will hear from my buddy John as he loves his too. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "hofsassw" wrote: > > > > > > Any opinions on the scottoiler would be appreciated! Bill Jax,

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