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[Ronald Criswell]

Seems like they made it porkier. Something it didn't need. What was it in the article 385 pounds dry verses 335 on the old one? In dual sport bikes, I am not a big fan of pork. But they did seem to improve the bike overall. Not sure how the new bodywork will do on a crash but am sure Happy Trails will have a fix. Criswell

On May 1, 2007, at 5:55 PM, Russell Scott wrote: > My take from the review and Elden's article is good news for > consumers, not > so good news for aftermarket sellers of brake rotors, doohickeys, fork > braces, and springs. > > Kawi seems to have addressed all the major issues people have with > the bike. > The question now is did they miss anything? Only longer term use by > the > public will tell. > > R > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com[mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On > Behalf Of Blake Sobiloff > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:04 PM > To: E.L. Green > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Motorcycle Daily's 2008 KLR ride report > > On 5/1/07, E.L. Green wrote: > > Oh come on, you want it. You know you want it. > > I know I want it, but I want it in a garage I own, not a garage I > rent. Yes, I'm saving for a house (and as anyone from the area knows, > the prices around here are nuts!). > -- > Blake Sobiloff > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> > San Jose, CA (USA) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Animal Magnetizm]

50 more pounds, less ground clearance, longer, wider and ever-so-slightly taller (same seat height). The reduced ground clearance and the extra 50 pounds are the things I could do without. A better touring setup. A little less off-road worthy. Gordon Animal Magnetizm Bainbridge Island, WA http://animalmagnetizm.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Dennis Griffin]

Look at the lack of ground clearance in the third picture down in this article. Doesn't look like much left, and this would appear to be on a graded dirt road. Maybe the author or prep crew didn't spend any time on setting up the preloads. Also, consulting the online parts information available through the Kawi site, I found the same doohicky part number (13168) listed for the '07 & '08 models. Dennis Scottsdale, AZ '06 DL1000 '06 KLR650 Aztec '04 Triumph 955i Daytona

On Apr 30, 2007, at 10:55 PM, Russell Scott wrote: > This is what somebody reported seeing pass by on the list last week. > > http://www.motorcycledaily.com/30april07_2008kawasaki_klr650.html > > R [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bill Watson]

Criswell wrote: Seems like they made it porkier. Something it didn't need. What was it in the article 385 pounds dry verses 335 on the old one? In dual sport bikes, I am not a big fan of pork. But they did seem to improve the bike overall. Not sure how the new bodywork will do on a crash but am sure Happy Trails will have a fix. ------------------- Ron, I'm guessing the bike has only gained a few pounds, not 50. I think they finally got realistic and told us the real number for once. I'm going to weigh my '04 without fuel and see how close it is to the "337" published number. Sort of like the power estimate. They've dropped the published engine output, but it appears from all signs that power is higher than the earlier models. Time will tell. Bill Watson Phoenix, AZ --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Arden Kysely]

That's right. Rider weighed a fully fueled KLR for their comparo a few months ago and it was 411 pounds. I think Kawi is just being more realistic with the new bike's weight. Nobody's weighed one yet that I know of. __Arden

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Mike Frey wrote: > > They changed the weight to a more realistic "dry weight" > > Our bikes weigh right around 400 pounds with a full tank of > gas. > > Animal Magnetizm wrote: > > >50lbs HEAVIER than the old model????? Is that right? That changes things a bit. > > > >06 a claimed 337 pounds dry > >08 a claimed dry weight of 386 pounds > > > > > >Gordon > >Animal Magnetizm > >Bainbridge Island, WA > >http://animalmagnetizm.com/ > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Ken]

I recently joined this and every other KLR site I could find and carefully read every post, since I decided I d reached the age when a man s thoughts turn to thumpers. I spent several months evaluating the virtues and riding used, and new (2007) models. I also pondered the possible virtues and weaknesses of the 2008 s. Long story short, I picked up my 2008 last weekend, and I concur with those who, after riding, find the lost travel to be a red herring. As Dirck Edge writes in Motorcycle Weekly, Suspension travel was reduced slightly front and rear. The fork now travels 7.9 inches (versus 9.1), and the shock 7.3 inches (versus 8.1). Less static sag in the fork and the shock means useful travel is not too far from the older design, and the new suspension generally has a slightly stiffer, more controlled feel (no wallowing). A new swingarm design not only looks better, it is stiffer and works well with a redesigned rear shock linkage. He concludes, The new suspension settings are hard to fault. The big KLR never felt like it was wallowing, and tracked much more accurately than the old bike. The big 21 inch front wheel hit some gnarly stuff during our test (both on-road and off-road), but always felt plush and controlled. We also never bottomed the fork or the shock. Whatever reasons one might have for being suspicious of the revised KLR, suspension should not be included. Comparing stock suspensions, both off and on road, the new suspension is superior to the 2007 s. As for your second concern, see HYPERLINK "http://www.topgunmotorcycles.com/techinsight.html"http://www.topgunmotorcyc les.com/techinsight.html for a discussion and photos of the newly improved balancer system. As you might guess, I really like what Kawasaki has done to improve the KLR for all riders, wherever and however they ride. I m not saying a well-modified 2007 couldn t be as good, but it wouldn t be better, and it certainly wouldn t be cheaper. Ken _____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Griffin Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:29 PM To: KListeRs Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Motorcycle Daily's 2008 KLR ride report Look at the lack of ground clearance in the third picture down in this article. Doesn't look like much left, and this would appear to be on a graded dirt road. Maybe the author or prep crew didn't spend any time on setting up the preloads. Also, consulting the online parts information available through the Kawi site, I found the same doohicky part number (13168) listed for the '07 & '08 models. Dennis Scottsdale, AZ '06 DL1000 '06 KLR650 Aztec '04 Triumph 955i Daytona

On Apr 30, 2007, at 10:55 PM, Russell Scott wrote: > This is what somebody reported seeing pass by on the list last week. > > HYPERLINK "http://www.motorcycledaily.com/30april07_2008kawasaki_klr650.html"http://ww w.motorcyc-ledaily.com/-30april07_-2008kawasaki_-klr650.html > > R [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[John Biccum]

I weighed my A16 on a state truck scale. It had a Happy Trails NW rack rack on it and two empty Givi A36s. I got 420 pounds with about 2/3 of a tank of fuel. Based on that result, 411 pounds with a full tank and no rack or Givis sounds about right. So the claimed dry weight for the "classic" KLR is a product of the marketing department rather than the engineering department. Maybe the engineers are responsible for the dry weight figure on the new KLR? _____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Arden Kysely Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 20:21 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re:Motorcycle Daily's 2008 KLR ride report That's right. Rider weighed a fully fueled KLR for their comparo a few months ago and it was 411 pounds. I think Kawi is just being more realistic with the new bike's weight. Nobody's weighed one yet that I know of. __Arden --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Frey wrote:

> > They changed the weight to a more realistic "dry weight" > > Our bikes weigh right around 400 pounds with a full tank of > gas. > > Animal Magnetizm wrote: > > >50lbs HEAVIER than the old model????? Is that right? That changes

things a bit.

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[Mike Peplinski]

Fear not my friend. While the need for replacement parts may decline the opportunity for more "farkle" will only increase as more units are sold. My local dealer tells me the interest in the KLR has really increased in the last several years. The new style will only increase the demand. The new plastic may abhore some of the KLRista but in reality it is a cosmetic change to appeal to the new, prospective buyer, not the dedicated repeat customer. Look at what styling changes did for the SUV.

>From: "Russell Scott" >To: "KListeRs" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Motorcycle Daily's 2008 KLR ride report >Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 15:55:16 -0700 > >My take from the review and Elden's article is good news for consumers, not >so good news for aftermarket sellers of brake rotors, doohickeys, fork >braces, and springs. > >Kawi seems to have addressed all the major issues people have with the >bike. >The question now is did they miss anything? Only longer term use by the >public will tell. > >R > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On >Behalf Of Blake Sobiloff > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:04 PM > To: E.L. Green > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Motorcycle Daily's 2008 KLR ride report > > > On 5/1/07, E.L. Green wrote: > > Oh come on, you want it. You know you want it. > > I know I want it, but I want it in a garage I own, not a garage I > rent. Yes, I'm saving for a house (and as anyone from the area knows, > the prices around here are nuts!). > -- > Blake Sobiloff > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> > San Jose, CA (USA) > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

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[Mike Peplinski]

This is not a "new" part but a replacement part. The number would not be expected to change anywhere except in the manufacturing sector. The parts bins of the world's Kawasaki dealers will be depletled of old style doohickey's in time. The stock will be replaced by the new style. This is not at all uncommon. In the automotive industry frequently the replacement part looks different from the original yet it functions. For example, a "factory" ball joint may have no grease fitting yet tyhe replacement has a capped hole. Yet the part number is the same. Dimensionally and functionally the new "hickey" is identical to the old.

>From: Dennis Griffin >To: KListeRs DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Motorcycle Daily's 2008 KLR ride report >Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 18:29:22 -0700 > >Look at the lack of ground clearance in the third picture down in >this article. Doesn't look like much left, and this would appear to >be on a graded dirt road. Maybe the author or prep crew didn't spend >any time on setting up the preloads. Also, consulting the online >parts information available through the Kawi site, I found the same >doohicky part number (13168) listed for the '07 & '08 models. > >Dennis >Scottsdale, AZ >'06 DL1000 >'06 KLR650 Aztec >'04 Triumph 955i Daytona > > >On Apr 30, 2007, at 10:55 PM, Russell Scott wrote: > > > This is what somebody reported seeing pass by on the list last week. > > > > http://www.motorcycledaily.com/30april07_2008kawasaki_klr650.html > > > > R > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

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[Animal Magnetizm]

The DRY weight for both bikes, as well as the other numbers, is taken from the Kawasaki website. I compared numbers from both side by side. Why would Kawi give an honest weight on one bike and not another? They didn't. BTW Dry weight means NO fluids. Not just gas. You will need both bikes side by side, with or without fluids to get the comparison. The article was clearly written by someone being paid by Kawasaki. Gordon "Don't vote, it encourages them." Ground clearance 8.3 in. Seat height 35.0 in. Dry weight 386 lbs Ground clearance 9.4 in. Seat height 35.0 in. Dry weight 337 lbs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]